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post #301 of 888
This is very true about aptx, I have played with bluetooth headphones in the past, it never was a good experience. Everything I tried had a very flat, mono-ish, no bass sound. Until recently I brought a pair of soul electronics sv3 off amazon for 38.00, I said what the heck it has aptx, bluetooth 4.0 I'll try them out. Wow! Bass! Clear! I can hear separation and different layers of music, Slightly muffled but not bad and totally enjoyable for bluetooth! Bluetooth has come a long way. I wish vmoda would bring out an m100 with bluetooth, that would be perfect or if logitech would design a ue 9000 replacement that had slimmer, flatter cups. As for the sony mk2 i like the design and battery life sounds awesome but how would you describe the bass? I like strong, authoritive bass that can go deep, but doesnt interfere with the rest of the sound. Also I like soft, sweet treble nothing sharp.
Edited by david8613 - 5/29/14 at 6:52am
post #302 of 888
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Originally Posted by david8613 View Post

This is very true about aptx, I have played with bluetooth headphones in the past, it never was a good experience. Everything I tried had a very flat, mono-ish, no bass sound. Until recently I brought a pair of soul electronics sv3 off amazon for 38.00, I said what the heck it has aptx, bluetooth 4.0 I'll try them out. Wow! Bass! Clear! I can seperation and layers of music, Slightly muffled but not bad and totally enjoyable for bluetooth! Bluetooth has come a long way. I wish vmoda would bring out an m100 with bluetooth, that would be perfect or if logitech would design a ue 9000 replacement that had slimmer, flatter cups. As for the sony mk2 how would you describe the bass?


The bass was quite good. Not as much volume or pace as the UE9000 over bluetooth but quite a solid amount of bass. There was a bit of a mid bass hump though which annoyed me but thats generally good for EDM music.

post #303 of 888
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Originally Posted by cehowardNote3 View Post
 

Yup you area correct on the transmitter bit. 

 

I have a PC connected to my TV, also, have a $15 bluetooth usb apt-x dongle connected to the PC too...

 

 

 

My quick research seems to suggest that many (or all?) bluetooth transmitters have a lag problem. Which one are you using? How is the lag?

post #304 of 888
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Originally Posted by david8613 View Post

This is very true about aptx, I have played with bluetooth headphones in the past, it never was a good experience. Everything I tried had a very flat, mono-ish, no bass sound. Until recently I brought a pair of soul electronics sv3 off amazon for 38.00, I said what the heck it has aptx, bluetooth 4.0 I'll try them out. Wow! Bass! Clear! I can hear separation and different layers of music, Slightly muffled but not bad and totally enjoyable for bluetooth! Bluetooth has come a long way. I wish vmoda would bring out an m100 with bluetooth, that would be perfect or if logitech would design a ue 9000 replacement that had slimmer, flatter cups. As for the sony mk2 i like the design and battery life sounds awesome but how would you describe the bass? I like strong, authoritive bass that can go deep, but doesnt interfere with the rest of the sound. Also I like soft, sweet treble nothing sharp.

Well, I always state that I am a newbie, and don't have golden ears, but the bass on the Sony makes me smile..The bass was one of the 4 or 5 improvements that Sony made over the 1st Sony MDR 1RBT. That was 4 to 5 improvements too. They listed them somewhere, but just the talk of the improvements in the MK2, made me take what I thought was a risk and went gray market to get the MK2. Gray market means if warranty work is ever needed, I CANNOT go to Sony USA, I have to ship back to the vendor and they in turn will ship to Sony.. Come to find out, getting  MK2s from an oversea vendor was fast shipping (9 days) and a full explanation of warranty coverage. I am on my 2nd pair. My first pair was stolen a month ago. I liked the so much, the very next day, I placed an order, and received them in 9 days too. I am fully satisfied of the performance of the Mk2s at their price point. I paid $335 shipped to my door..

post #305 of 888
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Originally Posted by posnera View Post
 

 

 

My quick research seems to suggest that many (or all?) bluetooth transmitters have a lag problem. Which one are you using? How is the lag?

I am using this one at home, go this off Ebay.. Going to get another one for work. The one I have at work now doesn't have the aptx..

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=291132557020

post #306 of 888
Since the sony mk2 are not out here i decided to go to bb and test out a pair of sony mdr 10rbt, out the box the deep bass is light for me, although they arestrong in midbass deptartment. I'm beginning to think I like a dark signature, they seem bright to me. The soul electronics sv3 from amazon I brought have deeper better bass it seems. Will these smooth out and get deeper with burn in?
post #307 of 888

I decided to go the opposite direction of this thread since I've kinda exhausted options at the high-end. I gave the Creative Hitz WP380 a shot but the headphone creaks and is a bit uncomfortable for me. Sound was also slightly boomy bass-wise albeit decent overall. 

 

I recently had the opportunity to briefly test a colleague's AKG K451. Thought it was comfortable enough and with the special that Harmanaudio is having right now on refurbs (only $39) I decided to give it a shot. I just got it in today and despite being on-ear's these are very comfortable owing to the thick & cushy memory foam. They also sound pretty good if a bit boomy and ever so slightly muddyish. I have these hooked up to the BlueAnt Ribbon (still looking for a better aptX receiver and am considering the LG BTS1 or Avantree Saturn Pro). This is my portable BT solution for now. I'll report back how this works out (or not) in the coming weeks.

post #308 of 888
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Originally Posted by david8613 View Post

Since the sony mk2 are not out here i decided to go to bb and test out a pair of sony mdr 10rbt, out the box the deep bass is light for me, although they arestrong in midbass deptartment. I'm beginning to think I like a dark signature, they seem bright to me. The soul electronics sv3 from amazon I brought have deeper better bass it seems. Will these smooth out and get deeper with burn in?

 

Both Sony's are a bit weak in the sub bass department and have a mid bass hump. I don't think the deep bass will appear after burn in. It might sound smoother though. You must like really really dark/warm sound signature. I haven't heard anyone describe the 10RBT as bright before. If you are after something with more solid bass, the Harman Kardon BT and Jabra Revo both have lots of reviews saying the bass is deep and dominant, the Revo especially. I'd be reluctant to recomment the Harman Kardon though from comments earlier in the thread by @tinyman392 who said they are quite bright and sometimes harsh sounding in the treble. The AKG k845bt had good deep bass response. They aren't bass heavy though but the deep bass is there when it needs to be. They also don't have aptx though they sounded better to me than everything I've tried that had aptx. The Matrix2 AF62 also has some very good reviews in this thread, some comments said the bass is better than the 10RBT. If none of these fit your requirements then it might be better to look at some lower end bluetooth headphones. Many of them will have very deep (though oftem boomy and muddy) bass.

post #309 of 888
I think my problem is after using the v-moda m100 as my main headphone, and then using ue9000 with the same signature just even more powerful with bluetooth I became spoiled. I had to return the ue9000 they had charging problems, very sad i really liked them alot. The only nags i had is being bulky and very heavy, the sound on the ue9000 was incredible! The sony mdr 10rbt are going back, lack of very deep bass, and that mid bass hump gets annoying after awhile, I listen for long sessions. The sony fit and finish is excellent, very light and nice isolation, extremely comfortable, I wish they were a little more laid back. I'm positive now I like a smooth, warm signature, with bass that can go low in the hertz department, smooth mids, sweet highs I just wanted add another tid bit, the soul sv3 that i mentioned sound really good, for 40.00 on amazon, you guys should check them out for the price you can't go wrong.
Edited by david8613 - 5/30/14 at 7:31am
post #310 of 888
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Originally Posted by david8613 View Post

Since the sony mk2 are not out here i decided to go to bb and test out a pair of sony mdr 10rbt, out the box the deep bass is light for me, although they arestrong in midbass deptartment. I'm beginning to think I like a dark signature, they seem bright to me. The soul electronics sv3 from amazon I brought have deeper better bass it seems. Will these smooth out and get deeper with burn in?

Just want to let you know, I had two pairs of Sony MD 10RBTs. Got them for sale price $149.99. They are GREAT headphones, at their price polnt. Better than my Harman Kardon BTs. However, they are no way close to the mighty MK2s. Yes they will get better after use.
post #311 of 888
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Originally Posted by david8613 View Post

This is very true about aptx, I have played with bluetooth headphones in the past, it never was a good experience. Everything I tried had a very flat, mono-ish, no bass sound. Until recently I brought a pair of soul electronics sv3 off amazon for 38.00, I said what the heck it has aptx, bluetooth 4.0 I'll try them out. Wow! Bass! Clear! I can hear separation and different layers of music, Slightly muffled but not bad and totally enjoyable for bluetooth! Bluetooth has come a long way. I wish vmoda would bring out an m100 with bluetooth, that would be perfect or if logitech would design a ue 9000 replacement that had slimmer, flatter cups. As for the sony mk2 i like the design and battery life sounds awesome but how would you describe the bass? I like strong, authoritive bass that can go deep, but doesnt interfere with the rest of the sound. Also I like soft, sweet treble nothing sharp.

 

I had those souls on order, cancelled them after I saw people had problems with the earpieces and so on. I bought the AF62's. I really like them, they are my first bluetooth headset, I use them paired with my Galaxy Note 2 utilizing Apt X. I have not tried them wired yet with my HisoundAudiio 3rd Anniversary player or Sasnsa clipzip yet.


Edited by red71rum - 5/30/14 at 10:18am
post #312 of 888

so which has a warmer sound sound mk!! or logietc u9000

and which has more base of those two

post #313 of 888
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Originally Posted by hykhleif View Post

so which has a warmer sound sound mk!! or logietc u9000
and which has more base of those two

I would like to know this too. I'm missing those ue 9000 so much, what am I gonna do? I wonder if logitech and ue is working on a newer model? About those soul sv3 I got lucky mine had no problems with the ear pads coming apart. I wish someone here with a better ears than me can review the soul electronic sv3, for money it can't be beat, I saw it go as low as 34.00 bucks! They don't sound super high end they just very good to me. Here are the pros and cons of sv3 in my opinion.

Pros

Nicely built besides the ear cup material problems some have experienced
Comfortable, light, perfect clamping force. you can wear for long periods without fatigue
Very good bass not boomy but goes deep and has authority
Trebles are subdued not sharp at all, I like it like that way no fatigue
Mids are laid back also
Mid bass is very nice
On ear designs usually bother me I have big ears these don't, pads are nice and comfy
On apple devices you can see your battery gauge which is kind if cool, wish they had this for android
Simple 3 button controls very easy pairing
Battery lasts forever
They can get very loud
Don't look goofy cause they aren't that big
Fold to a small size
Blocks a good amount of outside noise even though they are just on ear phones
Has aptx and bluetooth 4.0 I think that's why they sound so good
Has input for audio cable if there is no power, sounds good too with wire


Cons

Soul electronic does not make them anymore
Trebles could be a slightly more sparkly
Can't have more than one device connected at a time
Gotta keep an eye on ear cup material they might come apart due to cheap glue
No case included
No electronic noise cancellation even though they do a pretty good job of blocking outside noise with music on
Edited by david8613 - 5/30/14 at 3:07pm
post #314 of 888

i think the final conclusion about sony mdr 1rbt mkII is that the lower end bass is not that much there and slightly it is bright and might sound harsh, which is what I get from what I read so far

 

i hope for rich full bass, warm and not bright sound signature

post #315 of 888
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Originally Posted by hykhleif View Post

i think the final conclusion about sony mdr 1rbt mkII is that the lower end bass is not that much there and slightly it is bright and might sound harsh, which is what I get from what I read so far

i hope for rich full bass, warm and not bright sound signature

IMO, what is going on, is that the mk2 version is not widely available, and the really in depth reviews are not there. To prove my polnt, on YouTube you have practically none. The one or two that you do have are really glance overs and non-English.
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