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Thanks for the Amazon review, does it have good "base" also?: )

 

This review is a little more than a few month's old, but it's mine: http://www.ifans.com/forums/threads/review-phiaton-chord-ms-530.404534/

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thanks for the 

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This review is a little more than a few month's old, but it's mine: http://www.ifans.com/forums/threads/review-phiaton-chord-ms-530.404534/

 

Thanks for the Phiaton review

post #273 of 384
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This review is a little more than a few month's old, but it's mine: http://www.ifans.com/forums/threads/review-phiaton-chord-ms-530.404534/

Thanks, that is a very good review. I was looking for a wireless headphone that could also double as a wired headphone when at work. I was looking to get rid of some of my headphones like my ath m-50s and thought that the Phiatons might be a good choice.
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This review is a little more than a few month's old, but it's mine: http://www.ifans.com/forums/threads/review-phiaton-chord-ms-530.404534/

Great review of the Chord. Very informative. Do you have any similar reviews for other bluetooth headphones?

post #275 of 384

Hi, could anyone recommend which bluetooth headphones to use with my new Sony Xperia Z2 phone? At the moment I am using the bundled MDR-NC31E earphones that have noise-cancelling functionality. These are fine for now but their sound-quality isn't brilliant and they don't have an in-line remote, plus I have to have them connected to the phone which makes using my phone's camera a little impractical with a cable attached.

 

Anyway, I found my old Sony Ericsson MW600 stereo bluetooth headset the other day and gave it a charge and connected my AKG K451 headphones to it and the sound was great, albeit with no noise-cancelling (although that's not too important). The only trouble was is that the battery lasted about 6 hours (I was using them when going on a long walk) and so I want either a similar bluetooth receiver (or is it a transmitter?) with longer battery life or a completely new set of bluetooth headphones.

 

I've been reading various reviews of bluetooth headphones but it seems a decent pair will set you back quite a bit of money. So far I am torn between:

 

Philips Fidelio M1BT

Sennheiser MM 400-X

Sennheiser MM 500-X

Sennheiser PXC 310 BT

Sony DR-BTN200

Sony MDR-10RBT

Logitech UE 9000

Sony SBH52

 

I know that's quite a list of different types of headphones, prices and functionality. I have managed to find a few different places online that sell the more expensive headphones for a lot cheaper - usually used, for example (I live in the UK btw), I have found a pair of Logitech UE 9000 headphones for just £155 and some Sennheiser MM 400 X and 500 X for just £105 (400 model) and £70 respectively - (not sure what the difference is between the two models).

 

Anyway, what would people recommend as being the best from that list of headphones/adapter? Is it really worth splashing out over £150 or can I achieve the same with a cheaper pair and the Sony SBH52 adapter?

 

Thanks for any help.

post #276 of 384
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@AfxTwn You get what you pay for with headphones and the bluetooth models are no different. The more expensive models generally will sound better by a fair bit though whether that extra boost in performance will be noticeable to you or if you feel that the performance boost justifies the higher price only you can say. I have been after the best quality bluetooth headphones I could find so have been looking mostly at higher models than the ones you listed. From your list though, given what has been discussed so far in the thread the Sennheiser MM 500-X is probably the best of the bunch, as long as you aren't intending to listen with noise cancelling turned on all the time. If that was your intention forget it, they sound like crap with NC on. Battery life also isn't the greatest I believe. The Logitech UE 9000 sounds very different over bluetooth than over wire, like having two different headphones. The sound is bass boosted and very punchy. Don't know if that is your sound preference though. The Sennheiser MM 400-X and Sony MDR-10RBT are also quite good though I believe at a slightly lower level. The Philips Fidelio M1BT has good reviews but I haven't seen a comparison between that and other top end bluetooth headphones to be able to say where it stands. Don't know much about the other models sorry.

post #277 of 384

I got the HK Bluetooth headphones. They sound good, however, I was not a fan of the design. This morning, while walking, I could hear every step I took in the metal frame. It was quite annoying. I came home and tried the larger head band, but then I just looked ridiculous, and it didn't get rid of the noise.

 

I broke on of the clips that snaps into the headset, so at this point, I am asking for a return. I think I am going to try the AF-62's.

 

I wish the Harmon's just had a standard headband, etc. They really did sound good.

post #278 of 384

noob2, I am moving a little up a little bit in the headphone world.. I can tell differences even though I might not be able to put the differences in the correct words, but I will try.

 

Right now, I have 3 sets of headphones, and two amp/dacs. IMO, they all are great for the prices I paid for them.

Right on the bat, I am going to say the Sony MDR 1RBTMK2 is the best. It  is able to out perform the other two while it is on bluetooth, and the others being pushed by an amp/dac. and it is the most comfortable too.  However, what makes the other two winners along with the Sony is the prices I paid.. These are prices shipped to my door. The Sony $335, the HKBT $97, the AKG K550 $143(brand new) So, with the Sony costing 2 to 3 times more, it should be the best all around.

 

I agree with moneyfornothin on the Harman Kardon BTs, if they are touched, or rubbed in any kind of way you can hear it. On the other hand with the Sony, I can touch the can, and I hear nothing.

 

On the AF62, I had to file a claim with Amazon, as the seller never delivered, and no tracking number.  

Right now my next set of headphones will be open back, and they should be better than the Sonys..

noob2, IMO, you are going to be hard put to beat the Sony MK2 BT..I really would like to see an audiophile do a comparison of Sony and the K545BT  

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@cehowardNote3 A comparison from audiophiles would be great, but they are very unlikely to deal with bluetooth headphones. My personal preference between the two was the AKG k845bt though I'm still waiting for a bit before I make my final decision on what I get. When did you get the AKG k550? How did that compare to the Sony?

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@cehowardNote3 A comparison from audiophiles would be great, but they are very unlikely to deal with bluetooth headphones. My personal preference between the two was the AKG k845bt though I'm still waiting for a bit before I make my final decision on what I get. When did you get the AKG k550? How did that compare to the Sony?

Already did, a couple times. One right after another.  Point is, I am a newbie, and I don't have golden ears. But, with my limited hearing senses, the Sony put distance on the AKG K550 and the Harman Karman BT. Also, it did it un-amped and on bluetooth, while the AKG K550 and Harman Kardon BT were wired and running on amp/dacs..

 

The Sony had more bass, more separation, more detail, the highs and mids were more clearer too...

 

However, as I noted, one must take price into consideration too..The Sony cost 2 to 3 times as much as my other two headphones. This outcome was expected. However, I did't think it would be able to do it while on bluetooth..

 

From your comments the AKG K845BT is a higher animal than the AKG K550


Edited by cehowardNote3 - 5/22/14 at 5:38am
post #281 of 384
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Already did, a couple times. One right after another.  Point is, I am a newbie, and I don't have golden ears. But, with my limited hearing senses, the Sony put distance on the AKG K550 and the Harman Karman BT. Also, it did it un-amped and on bluetooth, while the AKG K550 and Harman Kardon BT were wired and running on amp/dacs..

 

The Sony had more bass, more separation, more detail, the highs and mids were more clearer too...

 

However, as I noted, one must take price into consideration too..The Sony cost 2 to 3 times as much as my other two headphones. This outcome was expected. However, I did't think it would be able to do it while on bluetooth..

 

From your comments the AKG K845BT is a higher animal than the AKG K550


Well I think the k545 and k845bt were based on the k550 and I believe the k550 is a more balanced model overall (and larger). Interesting to see your comments regarding how you compared the two headphones. The few comparisons I have seen of the two models, well the k550 and MDR 1R (not BT) on this site and elsewhere had the AKG comfortably come out on top. Really does come to personal preference. I'm guessing if you tried the k845bt you would still prefer the sound of the MDR 1RBT, aptx aside.

post #282 of 384
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Well I think the k545 and k845bt were based on the k550 and I believe the k550 is a more balanced model overall (and larger). Interesting to see your comments regarding how you compared the two headphones. The few comparisons I have seen of the two models, well the k550 and MDR 1R (not BT) on this site and elsewhere had the AKG comfortably come out on top. Really does come to personal preference. I'm guessing if you tried the k845bt you would still prefer the sound of the MDR 1RBT, aptx aside.

noob2, the missing point is I am using the MK2 version of the 1R. The 1R may be like a whole different Headphone then the plain 1Rs. Up to 5 different improvements on the 1R MK2 version over the plain 1R.  Like I said, from my auditioning, with the MK2  just on bluetooth,  it still outdistances the others being wired and amped. A lot of users have complained that Sony didn't make any markings on the MK2 to distinguish it from the plain 1R.. It is on the box but that is it..Also, since it is only sold in Asian countries,  there are few to none reviews on the MK2, if they are they are, they are in a foreign language and not very thorough as in comparing them to others. At this point, they are my yardstick..The AKG K550s are IMO below it, so that is why I am returning them. I am sure, even from a price point, the AKG K712 Pros will be a match or better then the Sony.. The price is there too. R.

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noob2, the missing point is I am using the MK2 version of the 1R. The 1R may be like a whole different Headphone then the plain 1Rs. Up to 5 different improvements on the 1R MK2 version over the plain 1R.  Like I said, from my auditioning, with the MK2  just on bluetooth,  it still outdistances the others being wired and amped. A lot of users have complained that Sony didn't make any markings on the MK2 to distinguish it from the plain 1R.. It is on the box but that is it..Also, since it is only sold in Asian countries,  there are few to none reviews on the MK2, if they are they are, they are in a foreign language and not very thorough as in comparing them to others. At this point, they are my yardstick..The AKG K550s are IMO below it, so that is why I am returning them. I am sure, even from a price point, the AKG K712 Pros will be a match or better then the Sony.. The price is there too. R.


It will still come down to personal taste in the end though I believe. As for the difference between the 1R and 1R MKII, as you said there isn't much reviews online as its only available in Asian markets (and Australia) so there hasn't really been any direct comparisons. Only a description on what they changed. Not sure if you have listened to the original 1R or not (I recall you said you ignored it cos of no aptx) but since you seem to be the only person with the MKII version here, if you get time maybe you could audition the original 1RBT so there would be a proper comparison between them. Not sure if anyone else has the means to. I tried but the original 1R's have disappeared off the shelves here in stores that let me test them out.

post #284 of 384
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It will still come down to personal taste in the end though I believe. As for the difference between the 1R and 1R MKII, as you said there isn't much reviews online as its only available in Asian markets (and Australia) so there hasn't really been any direct comparisons. Only a description on what they changed. Not sure if you have listened to the original 1R or not (I recall you said you ignored it cos of no aptx) but since you seem to be the only person with the MKII version here, if you get time maybe you could audition the original 1RBT so there would be a proper comparison between them. Not sure if anyone else has the means to. I tried but the original 1R's have disappeared off the shelves here in stores that let me test them out.

Very true.

The original 1Rs are going fast because they are going for a knockout price of about $240, while the MK2 is hanging up around $350-375 on Amazon. BestBuy is still pushing the 1RBT for a whooping $399.99, Nope, I haven't listened to the original 1R, for the simple reason, I was getting headphones to match up to my two mobile devices which support aptx, and it would be out of the question to buy any bluetooth headphone that didn't support aptx. Now, if my mobile devices didn't support aptx, I could go that way. My Note 3, and Tab Pro, but support aptx..Right now, I am playing flac files off the Note3, with the Fiio E18 strapped to it, and the Sony wired to the E18.. Real sweet..Like I said before, and this is a matter of personal taste, the Sony is over the others even in bluetooth. The 1Rs IMO are good deals at the $250 to 275 range..Right now, the AKG K550s are in the box ready to be returned, and I will order the K712 on the weekend. I am looking for the K712 to beat the Sony. 

 

One thing for sure, I am having big fun learning. My supervisor tipped in on me at work, I had the Harman Kardon wired to the E18 running flac files of the PC.. I couldnt hear  nothing my supervisor was saying. My supervisor smiled and told me I had to either lower the volume or take them off.  I smiled and agreed..For $97 shipped, the Harman Karmon BT IMO is the sweetest deal out there.. Also, I have NOT given the AKG K550s time to burn in, but neither have the Sony or HK. The Sony and the HK will take care of all my bluetooth needs 


Edited by cehowardNote3 - 5/23/14 at 5:13am
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Very true.

The original 1Rs are going fast because they are going for a knockout price of about $240, while the MK2 is hanging up around $350-375 on Amazon. BestBuy is still pushing the 1RBT for a whooping $399.99, Nope, I haven't listened to the original 1R, for the simple reason, I was getting headphones to match up to my two mobile devices which support aptx, and it would be out of the question to buy any bluetooth headphone that didn't support aptx. Now, if my mobile devices didn't support aptx, I could go that way. My Note 3, and Tab Pro, but support aptx..Right now, I am playing flac files off the Note3, with the Fiio E18 strapped to it, and the Sony wired to the E18.. Real sweet..Like I said before, and this is a matter of personal taste, the Sony is over the others even in bluetooth. The 1Rs IMO are good deals at the $250 to 275 range..Right now, the AKG K550s are in the box ready to be returned, and I will order the K712 on the weekend. I am looking for the K712 to beat the Sony. 

 

One thing for sure, I am having big fun learning. My supervisor tipped in on me at work, I had the Harman Kardon wired to the E18 running flac files of the PC.. I couldnt hear  nothing my supervisor was saying. My supervisor smiled and told me I had to either lower the volume or take them off.  I smiled and agreed..For $97 shipped, the Harman Karmon BT IMO is the sweetest deal out there.. Also, I have given the AKG K550s time to burn in, but neither have the Sony or HK. The Sony and the HK will take care of all my bluetooth needs 

Judge from all your post, you maybe work at Sony company. LOL.

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