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Yeah, I read Joker's take on those.  The things that deterred me is the very flat bass response and the ADEL module; I don't understand the importance of having one.  Although great for reference and perhaps tweakable, it doesn't soundexiting.  Not that I want a ton of bass necessarily, but I listen to a lot of electronic, and the bass drives the music a lot.  This is what has drawn me to the FA-4E-XB's.  A good bass, but a detailed and lush mid like a higher end Final Audio Design is sought after.  The K10's sound flexible enough that, if I were in the mood for more bass, an EQ shift would get me where I'd like to be..  but.... maybe.

 

The bass is definitely not flat. It's well extended, well layered and tight.

post #32 of 74
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The bass is definitely not flat. It's well extended, well layered and tight.

Yes, and I apologize if I sounded like I was saying that it was flat.  From what I understand, its near impeccable.  Clear and just a pinch escalated.  What I was saying was that, if I happened to be in a bass mood, I could always pump the bass up on the EQ.  I'm betting that the K10's would handle that brilliantly; so I could have a great sound, and on occassion, I could satisfy that basshead in me.

 

Which, saying I'm a basshead is something that I find very difficult to come out of the closet with.  I wouldn't say that I'm a big basshead, but I do like my music to bump and energize most of the time.  From what I gather, if you're a basshead, the Roxanne's are kind of an end-all.  But the Roxanne's don't carry that high end like the K10's or UM Mentor's.

 

I'm going to get my molds done for the first time this week.  The purchase is aiming for the third week of May and I'm feeling like a kid at Christmas time.  The only thing that could get in my way would be another baby, or some other inconvenient life event.  I hate it when life gets in the way of the things that are most important.

post #33 of 74

so which is the better for edm and progressive rock the roxanne or K10, which is warmer and more 3d like

 

If you are basshead, then I am a basshead that love full rich layered sound that is warm non harsh, would the k10 suit me ?

post #34 of 74
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so which is the better for edm and progressive rock the roxanne or K10, which is warmer and more 3d like

 

If you are basshead, then I am a basshead that love full rich layered sound that is warm non harsh, would the k10 suit me ?

I can't fully answer this because I don't yet own them.  However, I HAVE been reading every forum, review, youtube video, and opinion that I can get my...ears/eyes... on.

 

This is what I've gotten from many others:

For a warmer and bass-heavy sound signature, the Roxanne's are the way to go.  For outstanding detail and clear, fast bass with a touch more balance, then the K10.  The opinion on K10 vs the unique melody Mentors seams to be still unsettled.  Both camps are devoted, so its clear to me that either one is a winner with only slight differences.  The Roxanne has a sound signature that's more clearly different than the other two.  For people like us, who listen to EDM, I'm thinking the Roxanne might be more fun.  Plus, we can adjust the bass if we want to really get our heads nodding one day.  

At the same time, I like to listen to classical on rare occasion as well as listening to a, for example, Norah Jones or others. In these times, the K10 and Mentors probably sound more like you're in the room.  

 

One thing seems pretty clear though, all three are at the top of their class, and all three have left a trail of carnage from all the minds they've blown. :-)

 

There's not enough of the 1964 Adel reviews out, but Joker clearly raves about it.  But, he's never tried the K10's or Roxanne's.  


Edited by MadMusicJunkie - 4/21/15 at 12:36am
post #35 of 74
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I can't fully answer this because I don't yet own them.  However, I HAVE been reading every forum, review, youtube video, and opinion that I can get my...ears/eyes... on.

 

This is what I've gotten from many others:

For a warmer and bass-heavy sound signature, the Roxanne's are the way to go.  For outstanding detail and clear, fast bass with a touch more balance, then the K10.  The opinion on K10 vs the unique melody Mentors seams to be still unsettled.  Both camps are devoted, so its clear to me that either one is a winner with only slight differences.  The Roxanne has a sound signature that's more clearly different than the other two.  For people like us, who listen to EDM, I'm thinking the Roxanne might be more fun.  Plus, we can adjust the bass if we want to really get our heads nodding one day.  

At the same time, I like to listen to classical on rare occasion as well as listening to a, for example, Norah Jones or others. In these times, the K10 and Mentors probably sound more like you're in the room.  

 

One thing seems pretty clear though, all three are at the top of their class, and all three have left a trail of carnage from all the minds they've blown. :-)

 

There's not enough of the 1964 Adel reviews out, but Joker clearly raves about it.  But, he's never tried the K10's or Roxanne's.  

 

You can ask jelt2359

 

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/newestpost/746615

post #36 of 74
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You can ask jelt2359

 

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/newestpost/746615

Yes.  And I think a 0.1 point difference from a single source is hardly the Bible, as others see the .1 going the other direction.  However, he does agree that the Roxanne's, although perhaps not as much of an all-around IEM as K10 or Mentor, they're still very notable and kick _ss!  So,if you are looking for more unique and hard-hitting bass, Roxanne may be the better choice, otherwise, I think it seems the consensus is that they are not rated as high.

post #37 of 74
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Yes.  And I think a 0.1 point difference from a single source is hardly the Bible, as others see the .1 going the other direction.  However, he does agree that the Roxanne's, although perhaps not as much of an all-around IEM as K10 or Mentor, they're still very notable and kick _ss!  So,if you are looking for more unique and hard-hitting bass, Roxanne may be the better choice, otherwise, I think it seems the consensus is that they are not rated as high.

 

My favourite in the JH lineup is still their 13, wasn't really impressed with the Siren series. Their build quality & QC is rubbish though. They are probably giving more attention to the Sirens compared to their old lineup IMO.

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I can't fully answer this because I don't yet own them.  However, I HAVE been reading every forum, review, youtube video, and opinion that I can get my...ears/eyes... on.

 

This is what I've gotten from many others:

For a warmer and bass-heavy sound signature, the Roxanne's are the way to go.  For outstanding detail and clear, fast bass with a touch more balance, then the K10.  The opinion on K10 vs the unique melody Mentors seams to be still unsettled.  Both camps are devoted, so its clear to me that either one is a winner with only slight differences.  The Roxanne has a sound signature that's more clearly different than the other two.  For people like us, who listen to EDM, I'm thinking the Roxanne might be more fun.  Plus, we can adjust the bass if we want to really get our heads nodding one day.  

At the same time, I like to listen to classical on rare occasion as well as listening to a, for example, Norah Jones or others. In these times, the K10 and Mentors probably sound more like you're in the room.  

 

One thing seems pretty clear though, all three are at the top of their class, and all three have left a trail of carnage from all the minds they've blown. :-)

 

There's not enough of the 1964 Adel reviews out, but Joker clearly raves about it.  But, he's never tried the K10's or Roxanne's.  

 

Currently, the K10 is the highest ranked CIEM (according to Head Fi) with 16 five star reviews.  http://www.head-fi.org/products/category/custom-in-ear-monitors

 

 

 

 

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post #39 of 74
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Currently, the K10 is the highest ranked CIEM (according to Head Fi) with 16 five star reviews.  http://www.head-fi.org/products/category/custom-in-ear-monitors












Yep, I've seen that. Both the K10's and the mentors get pretty glowing reviews. It seems that the k10's get more praises on their cosmetics than any other headphone I've ever read about, if that counts for anything.
I imagine clarity like a K3003 (there a lot more clear, I'm sure, that I'm not privy to) and a soundstage like a HD600, with the beauty of a rare gem that only Scrooge McDuck (or Indiana Jones, whichever you'd prefer) could find.

My impressions are being done next week. I'm about to post my PFE232's and possibly my FA-4E-XB's for sale, depending on how much guilt I'm willing to endure and how much money I can hide from my wife; it's a very delicate balance! However, I'll probably hold onto the FA's until I confirm that they're no longer needed.

Another thing against the Roxannes is their connector. All my custom cables have the 2-prong (somebody help me with the official name) and I hate to render them useless.

I like bass a lot, but I also really appreciate clarity. I'm confident that the k10's and mentors both have outstanding clarity and timbre and have good bass. Can anyone speak directly on these three in a direct comparison?

Lastly, is it wrong to mention the Heir 10.a's?! I don't want to break some unspoken rule... :-))
post #40 of 74
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My favourite in the JH lineup is still their 13, wasn't really impressed with the Siren series. Their build quality & QC is rubbish though. They are probably giving more attention to the Sirens compared to their old lineup IMO.

Interesting. Do you have the Freq or the original?. You must like a brighter sound. Did you prefer the 13's over the 16's?
post #41 of 74
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Yep, I've seen that. Both the K10's and the mentors get pretty glowing reviews. It seems that the k10's get more praises on their cosmetics than any other headphone I've ever read about, if that counts for anything.
I imagine clarity like a K3003 (there a lot more clear, I'm sure, that I'm not privy to) and a soundstage like a HD600, with the beauty of a rare gem that only Scrooge McDuck (or Indiana Jones, whichever you'd prefer) could find.

My impressions are being done next week. I'm about to post my PFE232's and possibly my FA-4E-XB's for sale, depending on how much guilt I'm willing to endure and how much money I can hide from my wife; it's a very delicate balance! However, I'll probably hold onto the FA's until I confirm that they're no longer needed.

Another thing against the Roxannes is their connector. All my custom cables have the 2-prong (somebody help me with the official name) and I hate to render them useless.

I like bass a lot, but I also really appreciate clarity. I'm confident that the k10's and mentors both have outstanding clarity and timbre and have good bass. Can anyone speak directly on these three in a direct comparison?

Lastly, is it wrong to mention the Heir 10.a's?! I don't want to break some unspoken rule... :-))

 

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post #42 of 74
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Interesting. Do you have the Freq or the original?. You must like a brighter sound. Did you prefer the 13's over the 16's?

I have the Freq. I do like bright sound signature, but i also do like warm and smooth type with adequate bass. I'm quite versatile, but i don't fancy Roxanne as I found it too dark and bassy for my liking. At lower settings I find it bloated with some bleeding to the mids.
post #43 of 74
Cool.
So have you heard the K10's?. Warmer than JH13?. Have you heard the UM Mentors?
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Thank you for telling me. Didn't know they were banned. Wasn't interested anyway, just curious.
Thanks again!
post #45 of 74
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Cool.
So have you heard the K10's?. Warmer than JH13?. Have you heard the UM Mentors?

Yep but it's been quite a while since I heard the K10 though. If you are looking for loads of bass I'm afraid K10 doesn't fit your requirements. Not sure how it'll sound if you EQ though.

Nope haven't tried the Mentors yet.
Edited by Levanter - 4/21/15 at 9:20pm
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