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post #31 of 53
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I will try to check if i find any direct comparison. I have read a lot of reviews about headphones in general and it seems bass is one thing people have hard time agreeing.

Well the least the quantity anyway. Some say neutral, some say bass light cant realy be sure what to expect.

post #32 of 53
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Originally Posted by Notus View Post
 

I will try to check if i find any direct comparison. I have read a lot of reviews about headphones in general and it seems bass is one thing people have hard time agreeing.

Well the least the quantity anyway. Some say neutral, some say bass light cant really be sure what to expect.

 

I think the reason for the confusion about neutrality and bass light is we seem to have two common uses for the term "neutral" when it comes to the place of bass in the whole response: the older notion of rolled off bass (Kxo1, DT880, HD6x0) and the new notion of not rolled off (HD800, Audeze, Hifiman).

post #33 of 53
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I think the reason for the confusion about neutrality and bass light is we seem to have two common uses for the term "neutral" when it comes to the place of bass in the whole response: the older notion of rolled off bass (Kxo1, DT880, HD6x0) and the new notion of not rolled off (HD800, Audeze, Hifiman).

Actually, they both fit with neutral if you use neutrality as it is defined in home audio, which is actually a better fit here. Neutral would describe a headphone's (or speaker's response) above the tuning point. Every headphone (or speaker) will eventually roll off. Then a headphone that is not rolled off like the one's you cite have better bass extension. Some roll off more shallow, which means you can have deeper bass extension than one with a more shallow rolloff. The reason it is necessary in home audio is that a bookshelf speaker or a tower (or even a subwoofer) can each have neutral in response.
post #34 of 53
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I am getting tired of reading review after review. Partly because people don't seem to have any consensus on the amount of bass.

Couldn't find any direct comparison with the KKR KNS 6400 and Akg K240 mkII or the KRK KNS 8400. 

I guess i just have to look at some headphones and order them. And hope that i can return them if i dont like them. 

post #35 of 53
Guitar Center generally carries KRK if you have one in your area.
post #36 of 53
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No Guitar Centers in finland. To be honest im frustrated because the shops here sell only the mainstream products like philips, sony, some sennheiser, koss, beats by dr.dre, and bose. Finding something here is nearly impossible sometimes.

In majority of shops you cant even try the headphones. In the ones you can try, its often with some crappy store music.

Sometimes you can find something in music store but they usually have 1 - 3 model's there.

post #37 of 53

I honestly think Shure 840 is a pretty perfect close headphone equivalent of AKG K240. And it's not really THAT heavy...

post #38 of 53
Yeah, we all have the problem of trying to find ways to hear headphones. That's why there's so much trading here in the classified part of the forums. And I've returned as many headphones as I have bought. And my Guitar Center doesn't let one try before they buy, but at least I can return them easy enough. In fact, one time I listened to them in the car, and went back inside and took them back smily_headphones1.gif
post #39 of 53
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Hehe that was one quick return. The return policy and laws in finland are a bit different and odd. We have mandatory 14 day return time, but it feels a bit complicated. You have to fill return forms and call the shop before you can return the product. Also the headphones and package has to be in perfect condition or else you wont get back your full money. But basically they can take part of the price for what ever reason if they feel like it. Not sure how often it happens. If you buy the item directly from the store without ordering, you basically cant return the product at all.

Also there is couple of odd things in the law about the 14 period, it states that you can look at the product. But it also says that you cant open and use it, if you do they could consider it a decision to keep it.

I really dont understand it very well...

post #40 of 53
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... In fact, one time I listened to them in the car, and went back inside and took them back smily_headphones1.gif
Not a believer in burn-in I see. beyersmile.png
post #41 of 53
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Not a believer in burn-in I see. beyersmile.png

I believe in burn-in. But when a pair of headphones are WAY OFF from the frequency response signature, clarity, and resolution you want, burn-in is not going to solve that. smily_headphones1.gif
post #42 of 53
Thread Starter 
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 I honestly think Shure 840 is a pretty perfect close headphone equivalent of AKG K240. And it's not really THAT heavy...

 

Actually you could be right about that, the reviews i read about it say'd the 840 has slightly rolled of high's, tight controlled bass, slightly bassy, majority say's its a bit over neutral in quantity.

But some say the Akg K240 mkII are slightly bassy also. Not to my ears but cant be sure. Some actualy say they are bass light.

I could actually try and find a store that has them, not very likely that i will find them but i will try.

post #43 of 53
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I will report back later if i manage to try the Shure SRH 840 but if anybody has any other option to offer please do.

post #44 of 53
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I managed to try the Shure SRH840 today. Its was very brief testing as the people with me did not like waiting for me. Managed to try the Akg K601 also, but that's another story completely.

 

Back to the Shure SRH840 immediately when i put them on i noticed the sound was very good, slightly more bass compared to the Akg K240 but nice controlled bass. It was noisy in the shop where i tried them but the SRH840 managed to block majority of the sound. The sound, sound over all was nearly perfect.

But the comfort is another story. Pads were soft but in my opinion a bit too shallow, that and the strong clamping force they had made me cringe.

The pair was a demo pair so the clamp should have reduced quite a lot. But still it was too much. It started to hurt in only 10min.

Was also surprised how bulky they are. I noticed they do weight quite a lot, but that was less of an issue compared to the clamp.

So i think Shure SRH840 are not an option for me. :(

 

I seriously need options, im even starting to consider On-Ear models.

post #45 of 53
Clamping force can always be mitigated with some good ol stretching exercise (for the phone), sound? not so much... You'll give up on a lot of thing if you go for on-ear route, if portability is not your concern that is.
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