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post #16 of 53
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Originally Posted by laon View Post
 

840 has better more controlled bass than 440 and it's not on the level of basshead. I think either it or 940 is your best option.

 

You're right about the bass on 840. I prefer a bass light sound, but found the warmer sound of 840 quite pleasant. 940 is more resolving, but the highs are uncomfortably hot.

post #17 of 53

I'm tolerant with bright treble but I understand where you're coming from, 940 has that crack problem too.

post #18 of 53
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Originally Posted by laon View Post
 

I'm tolerant with bright treble but I understand where you're coming from, 940 has that crack problem too.

 

I'm actually very tolerant of bright treble myself: I use 80i for organ music and metal. I didn't find it too bright overall, but the highs were too hot for me.

 

I forgot about the build quality . . . bummer. It's surprising, considering how tough a number of their other products are.

post #19 of 53
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Originally Posted by Notus View Post

Still thinking about the Akg K550 but the lack of detachable cable is a big minus. Im also curious if you can get new earpads for the K550?

Maybe you should PM this guy:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/613707/the-akg-k550-appreciation-discussion-thread/1350#post_10417493

post #20 of 53
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Thank you everybody for the answers.

 

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 You can buy the Alpha Dog pads from MrSpeakers, and they apparently fit the K550. But they are a little pricey.

 

For me the shipping fees would most likely take the cost so high that it isnt a option.

 

My soldering and diy skills are not high enough to attempt something like that. It looked very nice mod to the K550, but i dont have the money or the confidence to try it on a 200€ headphones.

 

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 You're right about the bass on 840. I prefer a bass light sound, but found the warmer sound of 840 quite pleasant. 940 is more resolving, but the highs are uncomfortably hot.

 

The SRH 840 would be in my price range, but the weight issue is the biggest problem.

 

The price is a bit too high in the SRH 940, also dont realy like hot treble. That is the one reason i love Akg K240 they have slightly rolled of treble. Im not against slightly better expension in both end's in the bass and treble.

 

Maybe i should have sayd im from europe.


Edited by Notus - 4/3/14 at 12:50pm
post #21 of 53
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Read the review in innerfidelity by tyll. There seem to be a lot of mixed reviews about K550.

Some will complain they are thin and strident this got me wondering about the sound signature compared to K240.

The Akg K240 are far from strident and cant realy say they are thin. Not sure what to think now.

Over all it starts to seem like the K550 has too many issues with fit and position that affect the sound in a bad manner.

post #22 of 53
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Originally Posted by Notus View Post
 

The SRH 840 would be in my price range, but the weight issue is the biggest problem.

 

You know you can mod it. This guy did more than necessary:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/484116/my-shure-840-mod-warning-lots-of-pictures (process)

http://www.head-fi.org/t/485381/shure-840-frankstein-headband-mod-mission-complete (result)

post #23 of 53
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Interesting mod and more interesting is that shure used such bulky and heavy rubber for the headband.

And it feels like there is no real reason for that rubber...

The mod made me actualy more interested in the SRH 840, but it also would mean there is no warranty and i feel odd about butchering pair of headphones to fix mistakes made by the manufacturer.

But the options oh the options for the headband...

 

Still i feel like i shouldn't overly complicate things by thinking about modding a pair of headphones to suit my needs.

I still hope there are options that would work for me as Stock.

post #24 of 53
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Originally Posted by Notus View Post

Interesting mod and more interesting is that shure used such bulky and heavy rubber for the headband.
And it feels like there is no real reason for that rubber...
The mod made me actualy more interested in the SRH 840, but it also would mean there is no warranty and i feel odd about butchering pair of headphones to fix mistakes made by the manufacturer.
But the options oh the options for the headband...

Still i feel like i shouldn't overly complicate things by thinking about modding a pair of headphones to suit my needs.
I still hope there are options that would work for me as Stock.

Your instincts are right: it's better to try to find something that works in its stock form. Besides, you wouldn't mod the Shures unless you found you really liked them.
post #25 of 53
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Originally Posted by Claritas View Post
 

 

Most of the time, the charts are pretty accurate but sometimes they're off. When they're off, it's very obvious that something was wrong with the measurement set up or the seal on the dummy head because they're very off.

 

In this case, although I'm not sure which K240 version is what given how long they've been in production, some of them are known to sound a little bit like Grados, while the K550 is decidedly the love it or hate it AKG sound - neither Grado nor Sennheiser HDxxx. Some will find the reproduction of the percussion lacking compared to how explosive they sound on some Grados (325, 225, RS1, PS1000) while lacking the slightly tipped up upper bass response and deeper bass extension on the HD580/600/650. I never really considered the SQ to be lacking, especially considering how transportable these are* and I nearly bought one until I ran into a used Aurisonics ASG-1** for half the MSRP.





*closed back, folds flat and fits in a case inside my laptop bag but the cups had more room for my earlobes than the MDR-1R; worked well enough with my laptop and smartphone but scaled well with the DX100, DX50, and X3

**most comfortable IEM I've tried barring CIEMs that would of course come with a risk, and cost more, as well as reshelling a possibility after a couple of years

post #26 of 53
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Originally Posted by ProtegeManiac View Post
 

 

In this case, although I'm not sure which K240 version is what given how long they've been in production, some of them are known to sound a little bit like Grados, while the K550 is decidedly the love it or hate it AKG sound - neither Grado nor Sennheiser HDxxx. Some will find the reproduction of the percussion lacking compared to how explosive they sound on some Grados (325, 225, RS1, PS1000) while lacking the slightly tipped up upper bass response and deeper bass extension on the HD580/600/650. I never really considered the SQ to be lacking, especially considering how transportable these are* and I nearly bought one until I ran into a used Aurisonics ASG-1** for half the MSRP.

 

I was supposing that OP is using K240 mkII. It's the old Sextetts that supposedly sound like Grados. I don't know what these sound like.

post #27 of 53
Thread Starter 

Yes i have the K240 mkII headphones, sorry i didn't mention it earlier. Never mind, i did mention it.

What i can tell with my noob ears is that it has rolled off bass that starts at around 50hz. Punchy bass, slightly forward mids. Rolled off treble making them sound very smooth and non fatiguing.

However i dont think they sound dark at all. Not exactly neutral because of the rolled off treble.

I would like better extension in the bass, but should have punchy tight bass.

I think i wouldnt mind slightly better extension in the treble. But nothing that has piercing or strident highs.


Edited by Notus - 4/4/14 at 3:22am
post #28 of 53
I've been reading some descriptions of HP50 and, except for the bass roll off, that sounds a good deal like the descriptions I've read.
post #29 of 53
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I would love to get pair of Nad Viso HP50 but unfortunately the price is way over what i can afford.

Price is around 250€ here.

 

I tried looking at some reviews that would fit my needs but cant realy say how they compare to Akg K240 mkII.

Direct comparison would be nice but cant find any.

 

Was looking at: KRK KNS-6400 these were the only headphones with fairly similar description of sound signature.

If anybody has both i would love to know how they compare, direct and detailed comparison would be nice.

post #30 of 53
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Originally Posted by Notus View Post

I would love to get pair of Nad Viso HP50 but unfortunately the price is way over what i can afford.
Price is around 250€ here.

I tried looking at some reviews that would fit my needs but cant realy say how they compare to Akg K240 mkII.
Direct comparison would be nice but cant find any.

Was looking at: KRK KNS-6400 these were the only headphones with fairly similar description of sound signature.
If anybody has both i would love to know how they compare, direct and detailed comparison would be nice.

The KRK8400 is somewhat bass light and has a crisp treble. Forward mids though. I think 6400 is supposed to have even less bass. Find out on the KRK appreciation thread.
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