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Can not figure out AMP for Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro (250 ohms)

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I've been a long time PC gamer, with the rise of more events happening in the U.S. I really need to get better closed headphones that will give me some good sound playing at events but without sacrificing a ton of sound quality. Open really isn't an option as lans are typically quite noisy and I really need a decent amount of noise cancellation.


My budget for headphones + amp is about $200 (can possibly push a little bit more) --

 

I decided on getting the DT770 Pro 250 ohms, but the amp I ordered, I really don't know what I'm doing and is apparently just awful for the headphones I bought? It was a Fiio e6, which I guess I didn't realize was just not good at all for the headphones I bought.

 

I've been recommended on the Fiio E10 but I really just wanted to get some more opinions -- I'm even okay to just get different headphones, these are just what I decided on after a couple weeks of hounding these boards for recommendations.


Sorry if this post breaks any sort of rules or whatever, I can delete it.

post #2 of 12
The E6 is a cheap headphone amp. It is what it is.

The E11 is a much better headphone amp if that's all you need. The C&C BH2 has incredible battery life. See this portable amp shootout to find out the best. Then verify that they do well with 250 ohm headphones.

Just a headphone amp would make more sense to me if you use Dolby Headphone or Creative sound processing for better positional audio in competitive gaming. A USB DAC will not be able to use that DSP because it will completely bypass the internal sound card.
Edited by cel4145 - 3/13/14 at 8:18pm
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Thread Starter 

Ahh okay -- I mean I really don't know much about it. I play in events so there's a lot of outside noise, I honestly thought about just getting A40's or something just for the sake of having a mic attached. The bass seems unreal and I can't really do open headphones as I just hear too much of what's going on in the background.

post #4 of 12
The bass on the DT770s seems "unreal?" They do have a good bit of bass emphasis. A headphone with a more neutral response might work better for you.
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Originally Posted by zephah View Post
 

I've been a long time PC gamer, with the rise of more events happening in the U.S. I really need to get better closed headphones that will give me some good sound playing at events but without sacrificing a ton of sound quality. Open really isn't an option as lans are typically quite noisy and I really need a decent amount of noise cancellation.

My budget for headphones + amp is about $200 (can possibly push a little bit more) --

I decided on getting the DT770 Pro 250 ohms, but the amp I ordered, I really don't know what I'm doing and is apparently just awful for the headphones I bought? It was a Fiio e6, which I guess I didn't realize was just not good at all for the headphones I bought.

I've been recommended on the Fiio E10 but I really just wanted to get some more opinions -- I'm even okay to just get different headphones, these are just what I decided on after a couple weeks of hounding these boards for recommendations.

Sorry if this post breaks any sort of rules or whatever, I can delete it.

Creative Labs Sound Blaster Z sound card.

It can easily drive 250-Ohm Beyer headphones.

post #6 of 12
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

The bass on the DT770s seems "unreal?" They do have a good bit of bass emphasis. A headphone with a more neutral response might work better for you.

Yeah, the bass for pc fps was just really.. Intense? I play decently high level cs so the bass was pretty overwhelming with how quick some sounds happen in the game. I've heard dozens of suggestions but they always seem to just suggest open, which wouldn't work for me at all, I need the most consistency possible for when I travel.
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Makes sense. One of the top favorite headphones for around $100 used to be the ATH-AD700 (not available any more). It's an open headphone. Open is preferred because of the bigger sound stage, but the AD700 are very bass light. And people liked that because the bass caused a problem anyway for hearing what they need to hear in competitive FPS play.

So seems what you need is a closed headphone that's easy to drive, that is neutral or even bass light, with the best soundstage.

Have you looked at Mad Lust Envy's gaming headphone guide? The A40s did score very well for competitive game play, better than the DT770s. Read down and you'll eventually find individual ratings for each headphone in his recommended lists: http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envys-headphone-gaming-guide-update-3-12-2014-monster-dna-on-ear-added
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Thread Starter 

Yeah I scoured the hell out of that thing -- the A40's seemed like a decent budget buy as they're about $200 for the bundle, and the mixamp is rated pretty high so it's not as though I'm spending $200 on the A40's, it's more that I'm spending $80 on the headphones and $120 on the amp.

post #10 of 12
And you can always upgrade your headphones later if you find something better.
post #11 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thanks for your help and the non-instant bashing of me deciding something that isn't the status quo >_>

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You are welcome. smily_headphones1.gif

And I understand. Competitive gaming is about headphones with clarity and great positional audio. That's a different thing from what a lot of people here are looking for here on head-fi. I don't play much FPS at all anymore. But I remember back in my Unreal Tournament FPS days, there were serious gamers who turned almost all the graphic details off because they said it made it easier to spot movement against the background and aim easier. You can imagine how some people thought that was crazy. And I wasn't super competitive, but I used a female character myself because the body profile is thinner, figuring it might make it harder for someone at some point to pick me out. It's whatever edge you need to help win smily_headphones1.gif
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