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Klipsch S4 (II) vs VSONIC GR07 BE vs Klipsch X10 + Suggestions?

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Hello, everyone,

 

I'm having trouble deciding between the GR07 Bass Edition, Klipsch X10, or other IEMs (eg. Shure SE215, etc)...

 

I listen to mostly instrumental / epic (eg. Audiomachine, Two Steps From Hell) / or general soundtrack music, with some bass. Sometimes classical.

 

Up to now I've had a pair of S4 II's, but the connector on those broke (the headphones only deliver full sound now if the jack is exactly in the right angle), 

 

I've been thinking about upgrading from these headphones. Now, I know that the GR07 Bass Edition and the X10 are both better than the S4's, but by how much? I'm new to the whole audiophile/IEM scene so I don't know much...

 

Which GR07s would be best? The Bass Editions or the MK2? I know the bass editions are newer, but I was wondering if the MK2 is any better in any way.

 

How would the SE215's compare?

 

And the Klipsch X10 - I was originally considering just jumping at this. But from what I read, it has terrible durability, and I don't exactly have the best experience with Klipsch durability.

 

 

The X11i's are out of the picture for now. I don't own an iDevice, so the extra cost of the controller is pointless. Furthermore, it's ~$220 on Amazon - about $50 more than the GR07 BE and the X10.

 

 

Any other IEM suggestions? I was considering the SE215s but some people say those aren't very good with bass. Not that I always listen to bass, or am a bass junkie, but it would be nice to have headphones that are good with bass either way. The RE-400s seem to have less bass than the GR07 BE's anyways, and since I can spend up to $170, I might as well get those instead.


Edited by tusing - 3/11/14 at 11:55am
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I would probably say don't get another pair of klipsch headphones. I have had 2 pairs of image s4a (ii) headphones and both broke, although the second pair are just a little unreliable. So unless you think you can claim on warranty i would leave them, at least until they make a product that lasts more than 9 months in my experience.

 

People here suggested that i got a set of yamaha eph 100 IEM's. I have been very happy with them, to summarize they are less bass heavy than the s4a's but not because the bass is quieter, its actually because the mids and highs match the bass resulting in a more full and far less muddy sound. So the EPH-100's are more balanced but i would still say they are ideal for someone who likes a bit of bass, its just less overpowering here, but also much clearer. I was very impressed with how they sound in general, if you want to have a look at frequency response you can see they are slightly bass boosted: http://en.goldenears.net/8861

 

The build quality seems better but i havent owned them long enough to be able to tell really, the connection between the IEM's and cables could have possibly been reinforced a little more, but that almost seems like it was by design.

If you are a fan of using headphones outdoors (in the cold, i am in the UK, so it gets quite mild and damp here very often) there is one slight issue too. Since they are made of metal they will get just as cold as outside, your ears on the other hand dont. this means condensation will form inside, im not sure if other metal headphones have this issue but if you let them dry out they will be back in full working condition. If you ware a hood or something similar though you will be fine.

 

Some general things you will notice when you switch from s4's to most other headphones are:

Flat cables:

The klipsch cables really did a good job of not tangling, something that the EPH-100's dont quite match.

Oval ear tips:

You wont find them anywhere else, only klipsch does them, but you will quickly get used to round tips. I have to say the EPH-100's are very comfy, even if they look like they should feel awful.

 

If you want some sort of size comparison i have attached an image, i apologize for the lens flare, its dark here so i had to use the flash :p


Edited by aljowen - 3/14/14 at 4:34pm
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Originally Posted by aljowen View Post
 

I would probably say don't get another pair of klipsch headphones. I have had 2 pairs of image s4a (ii) headphones and both broke, although the second pair are just a little unreliable. So unless you think you can claim on warranty i would leave them, at least until they make a product that lasts more than 9 months in my experience.

 

People here suggested that i got a set of yamaha eph 100 IEM's. I have been very happy with them, to summarize they are less bass heavy than the s4a's but not because the bass is quieter, its actually because the mids and highs match the bass resulting in a more full and far less muddy sound. So the EPH-100's are more balanced but i would still say they are ideal for someone who likes a bit of bass, its just less overpowering here, but also much clearer. I was very impressed with how they sound in general, if you want to have a look at frequency response you can see they are slightly bass boosted: http://en.goldenears.net/8861

 

The build quality seems better but i havent owned them long enough to be able to tell really, the connection between the IEM's and cables could have possibly been reinforced a little more, but that almost seems like it was by design.

If you are a fan of using headphones outdoors (in the cold, i am in the UK, so it gets quite mild and damp here very often) there is one slight issue too. Since they are made of metal they will get just as cold as outside, your ears on the other hand dont. this means condensation will form inside, im not sure if other metal headphones have this issue but if you let them dry out they will be back in full working condition. If you ware a hood or something similar though you will be fine.

 

Some general things you will notice when you switch from s4's to most other headphones are:

Flat cables:

The klipsch cables really did a good job of not tangling, something that the EPH-100's dont quite match.

Oval ear tips:

You wont find them anywhere else, only klipsch does them, but you will quickly get used to round tips. I have to say the EPH-100's are very comfy, even if they look like they should feel awful.

 

If you want some sort of size comparison i have attached an image, i apologize for the lens flare, its dark here so i had to use the flash :p

Thanks!

 

Anyways, I ordered GR07 BE's yesterday and they just arrived.

 

Highs are scratchy and right now they don't sound much better than my S4i's. However, I am hoping this changes with burn-in.

 

These headphones seem to be all the craze in audiophile communities, and for some reason I doubt the audiophile community considers something with the sound quality of a S4i to be amazing. So I guess I wait a week or two for burn-in before making my decision...

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