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post #16 of 35

Sennheiser HD 280 Pro has plenty of isolation and the treble is detailed yet comfortable. They are tight but after using them for the past two years they have loosened up a bit and are great to wear while still keeping outside noise mostly away. Excellent for movies, games and music.

 

You could also get some inner ear monitors and a pair of sound protectors to wear over them for the ultimate in sound isolation-

 

http://www.amazon.com/Peltor-97069-President-Hearing-Protector/dp/B0000X6L82/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394761127&sr=8-1&keywords=president+ear+protectors

post #17 of 35
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- Sennheisser Momentum --> Isolation is just "meh" and they are uncomfortable as hell!

- NAD Viso HP50 --> Have not tried them.

- V Moda M100 --> Isolation is average. Uncomfortable as well, but did not try them with the XL pads...

- Beyerdynamic DT770 --> Very good isolation but their highs are inconsistent and depending on tracks it might be a bit piercing for you.

- AKG K550 --> Had the K551s, the fit is tricky like someone else mentioned...

- PSB M4U 1/2  --> Good (above average to me at least) isolation. You could get the one with N/C and be done with it. Pleasant sounding as well... not bass heavy but it does Ok.

- UE 6000  --> Have not tried them.

- Sennheisser HD202 --> Don't remember trying them...

 

 

To this list, I would probably just add: MrSpeakers Mad Dogs, Alpha Dogs or the new Mad Dogs Pros (they all use Alpha Pads and isolation and leakage control is phenomenal!!!)

 

 

Good luck!

 

Great post thanks! Yes I've looked at the Mad Dogs as well. I was reading that they are modded version of a much cheaper pair of headphones. Is it worth the markup?

post #18 of 35

MartinLogan Mikros 90 is something you might want. There's a bit of hype on this site for them, and I thought that they were just OK, nothing too special. I did like the highs, they're maybe a bit harsh, but I really like it. 

post #19 of 35
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Great post thanks! Yes I've looked at the Mad Dogs as well. I was reading that they are modded version of a much cheaper pair of headphones. Is it worth the markup?

The word worth is simply a matter of perspective. You should realise that this hobby obviously faces the law of diminishing returns, so the word worth is really up to you. From a linear standpoint, of course not, but from the standpoint of a lot of people on this site, price linearity isn't really something that bothers them. I think people just look at their budget, look at the genres of music that they like. then pick out a headphone that they like. Can you afford the Mad Dog, do they compliment the types of music that you like? If so, then yes it's worth. 

And the Mad Dog is a modded version of the Fostex T50rp headphone which retails for about $99 USD. You can also get modding kits for them I believe, but the company behind the Mad and Alpha Dog have gone through a long process to determine the best sound through measurements as well as I suppose listening by ear.

post #20 of 35
If isolation is the main issue, why not do this by the charts for isolation or at least use that as a starting point.

Besides that, Mad Dog isn't fully sealed.

Noise canceling isn't ideal for sound, but the Bose will do what you need. It's a trade off.
Edited by Claritas - 3/14/14 at 2:21am
post #21 of 35
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If isolation is the main issue, why not do this by the charts for isolation or at least use that as a starting point.

Besides that, Mad Dog isn't fully sealed.

Noise canceling isn't ideal for sound, but the Bose will do what you need. It's a trade off.

 

Do you have the Mad Dogs?

Are you basing this because of the "baffle window" showing? (i.e. that "vent" is CLOSED! No sound comes out!!!)

Mad Dogs are fully sealed!

post #22 of 35
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Do you have the Mad Dogs?
Are you basing this because of the "baffle window" showing? (i.e. that "vent" is CLOSED! No sound comes out!!!)
Mad Dogs are fully sealed!

I tested it at a get together with friends and found it less than fully sealed, though obviously much more sealed than stock. As isolation is OP's concern, he should look elsewhere.
post #23 of 35
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What about IEMs, I hear they isolate better than closed back?

post #24 of 35
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My Soundmagic E10 don't isolate enough for my requirements though. But what if I change tips? Would foam tips for example make a big difference?

post #25 of 35

IMHO, the only headphone that offers more isolation than the Sennheiser HD25-1 II (or Amperior) is the Etymotic ER-4.  Seriously, as far as headphones are concerned, the HD25-1 II's offer the highest dB differential of any headphone: http://headwize.com/?page_id=550

 

The HD25 breaks 140dB.  Very few headphones in that reference even break 130dB.

post #26 of 35
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IMHO, the only headphone that offers more isolation than the Sennheiser HD25-1 II (or Amperior) is the Etymotic ER-4.  Seriously, as far as headphones are concerned, the HD25-1 II's offer the highest dB differential of any headphone: http://headwize.com/?page_id=550

 

The HD25 breaks 140dB.  Very few headphones in that reference even break 130dB.

What does their sensitivity have to do with isolation?


Edited by Sekka - 3/14/14 at 6:53pm
post #27 of 35
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IMHO, the only headphone that offers more isolation than the Sennheiser HD25-1 II (or Amperior) is the Etymotic ER-4.  Seriously, as far as headphones are concerned, the HD25-1 II's offer the highest dB differential of any headphone: http://headwize.com/?page_id=550

 

The HD25 breaks 140dB.  Very few headphones in that reference even break 130dB.

What does their sensitivity have to do with isolation?


146 dB is not their sensitivity.  Please note that I used the word differential. :)

post #28 of 35
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146 dB is not their sensitivity.  Please note that I used the word differential. :)


What is "dB differential", and how does it relate to isolation?  Google doesn't return any relevant results.

post #29 of 35
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146 dB is not their sensitivity.  Please note that I used the word differential. :)


What is "dB differential", and how does it relate to isolation?  Google doesn't return any relevant results.

 

Well, if the maximum dB that a headphone can support is 146 dB, that assumes a reference to something: silence.  So, one might expect that 146dB is the differential the headphone will support.  Granted, that's not a true isolation measurement, but it is an indication of the ability of the phone to drive out any ambient sounds whatsoever.

post #30 of 35
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Well, if the maximum dB that a headphone can support is 146 dB, that assumes a reference to something: silence.  So, one might expect that 146dB is the differential the headphone will support.  Granted, that's not a true isolation measurement, but it is an indication of the ability of the phone to drive out any ambient sounds whatsoever.

I really don't understand that logic at all.  146 dB is simply the maximum level of sound pressure the drivers are capable of outputting.  Also, if that number has even the slightest relation to isolation, why is there no significant difference between the listed closed-back and open-back headphones?  The DT770 and DT990, for example, are listed as having the same max dB, because they use the same drivers...  If isolation was even slightly relevant, the DT770 would be listed as far higher.


Edited by Sekka - 3/14/14 at 10:03pm
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