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post #151 of 166
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Yeah it's definitely a waste of money.

 

 

Not entirely because as you're doing now, it can be used as a USB/SPDIF converter, but that kind of defeats the purpose of buying this for it's DAC part which COULD be decent (although I now have my doubts), we'll never know.

post #152 of 166
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I was this close to buying that $400 ESS9018 DAC too. Glad I didn't!

post #153 of 166
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Not entirely because as you're doing now, it can be used as a USB/SPDIF converter, but that kind of defeats the purpose of buying this for it's DAC part which COULD be decent (although I now have my doubts), we'll never know.


Yeah I meant it's a waste to add a DAC on to it. I'm definitely using the SPDIF convertor though as my Yamaha receiver actually has a really good DAC that I can now enjoy.

post #154 of 166

Yes the DAC is definitely wasted if the headphone amp part sucks, especially since there are no outputs on the DAC itself (that's a pretty ridiculous design flaw if you ask me). But hey, now you can connect your receiver to your computer so I guess not all is lost.

post #155 of 166
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I was this close to buying that $400 ESS9018 DAC too. Glad I didn't!

 

Honestly if you want to spend 400 bucks on a bang-for-your-buck DAC/amp combo, then as said before in this thread, check out audio-gd products. They are highly praised all over Head-Fi, and you'll at least be sure that the design is good and the build quality is proper.

post #156 of 166
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I think I'll look on ebay for a nice used high end dac.

post #157 of 166
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lol I was just randomly laughing about this entire thread.

 

I think I've been scared away from cheap stuff though, everything I've paid money for (HD800, SE846) has been good and I think I'll assume the same for DACs.

post #158 of 166
The best thing you can use to make a choice is your own ears which is why I suggested you go out and try different gear. A close second is reviews, the more people say a piece of gear is good the more likely it is to be and audio gd only gets positive reviews even from people who own similar gear thats much much more expensive.
post #159 of 166
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I'm actually thinking of getting a really nice av receiver with a ess9018 dac. Kill two birds with one stone. Not sure if they make av thieves with ess9018 dacs though
post #160 of 166
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that was meant to say receivers not thieves, phone auto correct

post #161 of 166

I just want to say what started out as a thread that really caught my interest within the 1st page turned out to be a non-stop page turner just to see how ridiculous it got.

FWIW I've had an Audio-GD NFB10SE, Yulong D100, Hifimediy U2 and "made in USA" ODAC.

post #162 of 166
Audiogd Holo and now Denaflips Terminator consider super duper dac?😀
post #163 of 166

MP-D2 AK4490 XMOS BALANCED DAC DSD DOP 384Khz

Especially with careful tube selection, the MP-D2 produces quality high-end sound with help of tube output stage and tube rectifier. A lot of DAC @ 27lbs, 150W tranny, & 80W tranny. 1K

http://www.musicalparadise.ca/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=80

http://www.head-fi.org/t/802557/musical-paradise-m2-d2-ak4490-balanced-dac-reviews


Edited by rajacat - 2/21/17 at 8:10am
post #164 of 166
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MP-D2 AK4490 XMOS BALANCED DAC DSD DOP 384Khz



Especially with careful tube selection, the MP-D2 emits high-end sound with help of tube output stage and tube rectifier. A lot of DAC @ 27lbs, 150W tranny, & 80W tranny. 1K
http://www.musicalparadise.ca/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=80
http://www.head-fi.org/t/802557/musical-paradise-m2-d2-ak4490-balanced-dac-reviews
Latest top DS dac with tubes. Like to hear one of those compare to r2r. Is there r2r with tubes in the market yet?

I know MHDT does it with pure NOS mode.
post #165 of 166
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But are the components in a DAC that expensive? Mechanically or from an electrical engineering perspective it's not necessarily the most cutting edge of technology is it? The chip is the most sophisticated/complex part of the structure if I understand correctly.

Quality capacitors & transformers are always expensive.
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