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post #1 of 22
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so i just got my brand new soundcard and now i need a new set of cans, i am currently using a crappy USB gaming headset

what do you guys think would be a good set of headphones for this soundcard? ive done a little bit of research on the soundcard itself and from what i understand its supposed to have some trouble driving low impedance headphones i dont exactly know what classes as low impedance but i would imagin anything 32ohms and above is fine right?

 

as far as sound goes i dont really like headphones that produce a flat responce to be honest i find that a little boring to listen to

i like headphones that lean toward the bass just enough to give everything a nice full, warm and meaty sound but not the kind of bass that booms and overpowers everything else

 

a couple of other requirments

must be closed back headphones

straight cable

 

heres some headphones that i have been considering (but of course open to other suggestions)

beyerdynamic DT770 80ohms (number 1 choice at the moment)

ATH M50x

v-moda crossfade m-100 (i think these might be abit to bass heavy)

logitech UE 6000

skullcandy mix master (not usualy a brand i would look at but everything ive seen about these says they are pretty good)

 

i mainly listen to rock/metal i also listen to aggrotech, harsh EBM and industrial, electronic music very bass heavy - budget is around £150-£200

thanks guys :)


Edited by t103Ninja - 3/9/14 at 1:25pm
post #2 of 22
Right. The STX will do very well with a wide range of impedance headphones.

I like the DT770s better than the M50s.

I've heard that the MixMasters are good, too, but have no personal experience with them.
post #3 of 22
Thread Starter 

thanks :)

i cant remember where i read it but i read somewhere the STX has trouble getting low impedance cans up to decent volumes but like i said i dont know what classes as low impedance is it 16ohms, 32ohms? i also dont know if its true or not but it is a little worrying, i do like to crank up the volume

 

the DT770's are still my number 1 choice right now


Edited by t103Ninja - 3/9/14 at 4:23pm
post #4 of 22
The STX's low output impedance is ~10 ohms. So not optimal for running very low impedance headphones like 18 ohm, but still should work pretty well. Not sure why people would say that. Sensitivity--which is a measure of how loud a headphone (or speaker) will get with a standard amount of power--is more important to consider. Seems unlikely you would find something in the £150-£200 where that would be an issue.

And keep in mind that there are people on Head-Fi that will say a $500 amp is not good enough to run most headphones (lol).
post #5 of 22
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Originally Posted by t103Ninja View Post
 

so i just got my brand new soundcard and now i need a new set of cans, i am currently using a crappy USB gaming headset

what do you guys think would be a good set of headphones for this soundcard? ive done a little bit of research on the soundcard itself and from what i understand its supposed to have some trouble driving low impedance headphones i dont exactly know what classes as low impedance but i would imagin anything 32ohms and above is fine right?

 

as far as sound goes i dont really like headphones that produce a flat responce to be honest i find that a little boring to listen to

i like headphones that lean toward the bass just enough to give everything a nice full, warm and meaty sound but not the kind of bass that booms and overpowers everything else

 

a couple of other requirments

must be closed back headphones

straight cable

 

heres some headphones that i have been considering (but of course open to other suggestions)

beyerdynamic DT770 80ohms (number 1 choice at the moment)

ATH M50x

v-moda crossfade m-100 (i think these might be abit to bass heavy)

logitech UE 6000

skullcandy mix master (not usualy a brand i would look at but everything ive seen about these says they are pretty good)

 

i mainly listen to rock/metal i also listen to aggrotech, harsh EBM and industrial, electronic music very bass heavy - budget is around £150-£200

thanks guys :)

DT770!  Not sure if you are going to get a warm and 'meaty' sound, especially when driven by the STX.  (DT770 is cold, STX is cold IMO)

The DT770 is arguably the best built on this list, and sounds  good for the genres listed.  Afraid the combination will be too harsh for metal genres though :(  (It would be for me at least)


Read this blog entry here:

http://vc-junk.blogspot.com/2010/11/asus-xonar-essence-stx-swap-op-amp.html

 

According to the author, the OPA2132A op-amp sounds warm and brings out the midrange.  To me this seems to suit the combination well, as the DT770 suffers a slightly recessed midrange, and the STX/DT770 are a bit cold.

 

Maybe someone with more experience will chime in, but the DT770 and a OPA2132A swap might be the way to go (OPA2132A is cheap, $0-$10).  I never tried rolling op-amps when I had the STX, but it is a painless process.
 

post #6 of 22
Thread Starter 

thanks for your input, thats exactly what i was thinking if i didnt like the sound of the STX out the box swap the op amps :)

as far as the DT770 goes i thought they where supposed to be a meaty sounding warm headphone the 80ohm version atleast

post #7 of 22
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Originally Posted by t103Ninja View Post
 

thanks for your input, thats exactly what i was thinking if i didnt like the sound of the STX out the box swap the op amps :)

as far as the DT770 goes i thought they where supposed to be a meaty sounding warm headphone the 80ohm version atleast


The DT770, DT880, and DT990 are a little cold sounding to me at least.  Maybe after 1000 hours of listening and placebo they warm up... No idea XD
They aren't arctic cold, but they are definitely a touch south of neutral.  I do not think any of them have a prominently thick (meaty?) sound. I think the A900x has a warmer sound, but its noticeably leaner in presentation.

 

The DT770 Pro is probably your safest bet, and it is the most economical at the moment.  As far as I can remember, the M100 would be warmer, and I would consider them to having a thicker sounding bass.  I ended up getting the M80 because the bass was too overpowering ;)

post #8 of 22
Thread Starter 

meaty is the best word i could come up with to describe the kind of sound that i like haha :p

 

to be honest you have kind of put me off the DT770's now, changing the op amps on the card is all well and good but its not something i have ever done i dont know how to do it and to be honest im not even really sure what an op amp is lol

and it might not give me a sound that im happy with im very picky very very picky! haha

post #9 of 22
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meaty is the best word i could come up with to describe the kind of sound that i like haha :p

 

to be honest you have kind of put me off the DT770's now, changing the op amps on the card is all well and good but its not something i have ever done i dont know how to do it and to be honest im not even really sure what an op amp is lol

and it might not give me a sound that im happy with im very picky very very picky! haha

You might want to try the op-amp is what I should have typed.   Replacing the op-amp is easier than installing the card in your PC

If you feel that the STX is presenting your music cold, try rolling the op-amp!  Its a cheap and easy process.

 

That or you could start looking into tube amps, which could set you back another $100+ ;)

post #10 of 22
Thread Starter 

ah well if its easy then thats ok, i was worried about breaking the card :p

what does rolling the op amps mean?


Edited by t103Ninja - 3/9/14 at 5:30pm
post #11 of 22
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Originally Posted by t103Ninja View Post
 

meaty is the best word i could come up with to describe the kind of sound that i like haha :p

 

to be honest you have kind of put me off the DT770's now, changing the op amps on the card is all well and good but its not something i have ever done i dont know how to do it and to be honest im not even really sure what an op amp is lol

and it might not give me a sound that im happy with im very picky very very picky! haha

Audio Technica ATH-A900X (40-Ohm) closed headphones.

Hifiman Velour ear pads.

I prefer the A900X over the DT770s.

I own the Essence STX and have used about 15 different headphones with it.

post #12 of 22
Thread Starter 

thanks for the suggestions, cant really find any reviews for those headphones so buying them would be a tad risky

how is the volume with A900X coming off the STX, can it get loud or does it struggle at all?

post #13 of 22
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thanks for the suggestions, cant really find any reviews for those headphones so buying them would be a tad risky

Lots of discussion about them on Head-Fi
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608889/audio-technica-ath-a900x-discussion-thread-formerly-a-900x-review
http://www.head-fi.org/t/650785/audio-technica-ath-a900x-appreciation-thread

I used to own a pair. They are very good sounding headphones with just a little bass emphasis.
post #14 of 22
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post


Lots of discussion about them on Head-Fi
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608889/audio-technica-ath-a900x-discussion-thread-formerly-a-900x-review
http://www.head-fi.org/t/650785/audio-technica-ath-a900x-appreciation-thread

I used to own a pair. They are very good sounding headphones with just a little bass emphasis.

thanks for those links, some realy helpfull information :)

they sound pretty damn good to me and are my new number 1 choice

 

to purpleangel

what are the velour ear pads for, is it just just a comfort thing or does it actualy change the way they sound?

and how well does STX drive them? like i said before i do like to crank up the volume

post #15 of 22
I used to have the STX when I owned them, too. It does quite well. Of course, your idea of cranking up the volume and my idea of that could be quite different. smily_headphones1.gif
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