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First Post, History and a Couple of Questions

post #1 of 10
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Hello all:

 

This is my first post on Head-Fi.  I have been following various threads over the past 3-4 months as I submerge myself in the swirling maelstrom of headphone opinion.

 

I'm a recently retired music and movie lover.  In my younger days I worked with a local band as a sound man and road manager.  I have some experience working in recording studios, but am not technically knowledgeable.  About 10 years ago I purchased a pair of HD 600 headphones (refurbished).  I didn't care for them and soon they went in a closet to be forgotten.  With the advent of ipods, etc., I continued to buy the occassional portable headphone, but focused on speakers and sound systems for my listening pleasure.

 

Well, as I get older, my 5.1 surround system does not sound as good as it used to.  One day I pulled out the old HD600s and plugged them into my receiver.  I loved them!  Except for subwoofer bass, they sounded great compared to my speaker system (admittedly mid-fi at best).  I found Head-Fi and started thinking about getting a headphone amp to try, so I bought an Objective 2 and ODAC.  I was shocked to hear how much better these headphones sounded with a dedicated amp and DAC.  I really only did it so I could listen through my computer, but expected sound to be degraded compared to running out of the headphone jack of my Yamaha Receiver.

 

For better or worse, that got me going.  I bought a pair of HE-400s, and a Schiit Magni/Modi combo.  I have a pair of Alpha Dogs on order, and now am thinking about trying a tube amp as well.    The more I read, the more I want to spend.  So, I have a couple of questions for all the experienced Head-Fiers out there.

 

1.  Will my retirement nest-egg survive this hobby?

 

2.  Since all of my headphones are pretty demanding of power, can anyone suggest a good tube amp that will drive these babies?  I like what I've read about the Woo WA7 - but that puts we in spending class I'm not used to.  Any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

I'll post my impressions of the O2/ODAC, Magni/Modi, HD600 and HE-400 in the appropriate forums.

 

I have enjoyed reading so many interesting posts over the past few months, and will try to engage in a very postiive manner on the site.  Hopefully, I have rambled on too much. 

post #2 of 10
That's an interesting story; it doesn't usually happen that way. Glad you're enjoying yourself and thanks for the introduction.

I'm a fan of both of the models you currently own: HD600 for classical and HE400 for jazz.

The best ways to save money are 1) go to meets and try gear there so you know if it's for you and 2) figure out your sound preferences by playing with an EQ. If I'm stating the obvious, no harm has been done.

Yeah the WA7 seems to me too expensive. Also, it doesn't really look as if it was designed for music buffs; maybe for some businessman who wants something good-looking for his office.

A couple of cheaper amps that I haven't tried have been given good reviews such as Little Dot III and Darkvoice 336. La Figaro 339 seems to be a variant of the latter. I generally recommend buying from the For Sale boards here so long as the seller has good feedback and answers your questions.
post #3 of 10
In answer to your first question: Welcome to Head-Fi! Sorry about your wallet smily_headphones1.gif

The other way to save money is to buy and sell on the Head-Fi trade forums. That way you get to try more stuff and recycle out old stuff.
post #4 of 10

Welcome!

 

I hope you find the treble of the he400 ok. It was too sharp for my tastes.

 

The hd600 is regarded as one of the best headphones in the world, even after the new generation of (really expensive) flagships came out. If you're looking for a decent upgrade for it, the least you're gonna have to spend is $600 unfortunately (he500). Also, spend as much on headphones first until you find the one with the best suited sound signature for you before buy amplifiers/dacs, which tend to provide the least improvement for the money spent. But you probably already knew that.

 

As for the O2/ODAC and Magni/Modi combos, They have been reported to sound so similar that people just recommend the Schiit combo for aesthetics. The Magni/Modi combo is being called the O2/ODAC killer by a good amount of people around here.

 

As for this matter...

 

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Originally Posted by Sorefoot19 View Post

 

1.  Will my retirement nest-egg survive this hobby?

 

probably not! :veryevil: 

post #5 of 10
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Originally Posted by Claritas View Post

That's an interesting story; it doesn't usually happen that way. Glad you're enjoying yourself and thanks for the introduction.

I'm a fan of both of the models you currently own: HD600 for classical and HE400 for jazz.

The best ways to save money are 1) go to meets and try gear there so you know if it's for you and 2) figure out your sound preferences by playing with an EQ. If I'm stating the obvious, no harm has been done.

Yeah the WA7 seems to me too expensive. Also, it doesn't really look as if it was designed for music buffs; maybe for some businessman who wants something good-looking for his office.

A couple of cheaper amps that I haven't tried have been given good reviews such as Little Dot III and Darkvoice 336. La Figaro 339 seems to be a variant of the latter. I generally recommend buying from the For Sale boards here so long as the seller has good feedback and answers your questions.

 

Thanks for the kind words.  I live in MN and have not seen a lot of posts related to meets in my area.  I will try to find a way to do that.  I'll also do some research on the amps you suggested.  I don't fully understand the purpose of the DAC, but I did notice that when I added the ODAC to my system, it seemed to increase power to the O2.  I don't know if that was due to the DAC or due to the fact I was receiving an input signal from the line out of my iMac rather than its headphone out.  Whatever the case, it made a difference and allowed me to listen to my HE400 at a lower gain setting.

post #6 of 10
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

In answer to your first question: Welcome to Head-Fi! Sorry about your wallet smily_headphones1.gif

The other way to save money is to buy and sell on the Head-Fi trade forums. That way you get to try more stuff and recycle out old stuff.


 Thanks.  So, have you bought and sold on the forums.  I've read the rules, etc., but still am a little anxious about buying and selling from a distance.  Any advice on how to approach the process is appreciated.

post #7 of 10
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Originally Posted by b0000 View Post
 

 

probably not! :veryevil: 

 

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'll have to resort to trading up if I am going to be able to continue very long with this hobby.

 

I am getting used to my HE400, but I don't like it as much as by my HD600s.  I have the opposite problem in that I think they sound kind of veiled in the mids and highs compared to my Sennheisers.  The more I listen, the better I like them.  Although I know the Schiit and O2 are considered similar amps, I find the Magni is better with the HE400, and the O2 better with my HD600.  My years running sound may be the reason.  I'm sure I've lost some mid and high mid sensitivity over the years.

 

Reading all these posts, I do wonder how much each listener's hearing plays a roll compared to the HP and amps.

 

Thanks for the welcome.

post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by Sorefoot19 View Post


 Thanks.  So, have you bought and sold on the forums.  I've read the rules, etc., but still am a little anxious about buying and selling from a distance.  Any advice on how to approach the process is appreciated.

Always use PayPal. They have some coverage on purchases unless you essentially "gift" the transfer like you would to a friend or family member. And you could always buy from people with trader feedback. Although I just got HE-400s from Synkro today who was a first time seller. I sort of evaluate the ad, too.
post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by Sorefoot19 View Post
 

 

Thanks for the kind words.  I live in MN and have not seen a lot of posts related to meets in my area.  I will try to find a way to do that.  I'll also do some research on the amps you suggested.  I don't fully understand the purpose of the DAC, but I did notice that when I added the ODAC to my system, it seemed to increase power to the O2.  I don't know if that was due to the DAC or due to the fact I was receiving an input signal from the line out of my iMac rather than its headphone out.  Whatever the case, it made a difference and allowed me to listen to my HE400 at a lower gain setting.

 

The DAC should clarify the sound some which can enable you to listen at lower volume, but I think you're probably right that the power source is the reason. I think I need less volume on my O2 when it's plugged in as opposed to running on batteries.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sorefoot19 View Post
 

So, have you bought and sold on the forums.  I've read the rules, etc., but still am a little anxious about buying and selling from a distance.  Any advice on how to approach the process is appreciated.

 

I'm comfortable buying here as you can see from my feedback. But it's important to have a look at the seller's posts and get a sense of what he's like (is he a sensible fellow?) and ask a good number of questions. If the person kept the original packaging, it's an indicator that he's been careful with item itself. But you want to know the history: where / when did he get it, why is he selling it. Also ask about whether it was kept smoke free / pet free if that's important to you. Use paypal and don't send money as a gift, unless you already know the guy personally.

post #10 of 10

The Woo amps should be more than enough to drive your headphones. 

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