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post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 

Hi,
Now I own a solid-state amplifiers:
- Violectric V200
- Casea Lyra digitam Mk2

 

and several headphones:
AKG K701
HiFiMAN HE-500
Sennheiser HD 650
(I would like to try Audeze LCD-2, Beyerdynamic T1 a Sennheiser HD 800)
...yes they are very different.

 

I've never tried tube amp, but I want to.
Which of these headphones will do with tube amplifier benefit - it is worth to invest?
Also welcome specific tips on pairing (price tag to 1000 USD / 750 EUR)

 

thanks for the feedback

post #2 of 9

It's hard to find tube amps that pair well with planars. Tube hybrids are easy to find.

 

DV 337 and LaFigaro 339 are said to pair well with HE-500 (namely hifimanrookie says so) and HD650.

post #3 of 9

Output transformer designs I think should be your key consideration.  You've got a broad range of impedance curves and a planar magnetic too.  Prime candidates for under a grand are the Mad Ear+ and Woo audio 6.  These are both great sounding output transformer coupled circuits that work well with a lot of different impedance loads.

 

I think you might also be able to land an earmax pro for that price too.  Its an OTL design that uses feedback loop for better synergy with lower impedance loads.  I have an original Earmax without the feedback loop, and run it with an upgraded 60 watt power supply.  That was a HUGE step up from the crappy under-spec'd OEM wall wart.  Its a great sounding circuit with all my cans... for moderate listening volumes, when I crave a lot of even order tube distortion.

 

I have a DV337 and its by far my best sounding circuit.  It has a very layered soundstage, and spatial separation that I don't get from my Earmax, Millet hybrid, and Larocco PPA (solid state).  It also adds a layer of bass boost below ~35-40 Hz, that wonderfully compensates for the natural roll off of all my cans.

 

I run the 337 through 20 watt speaker output transformers.  (a kind of semi-mod) So the lowest impedance load seen by the 6AS7G tubes is still north of 1000 Ohms.

I tried running the earmax through through output transformers and its too cold/sterile... like a bad sounding solid state amp.  So the Earmax is best left alone in that regard.

 

I will have some new HD650 drivers by the end of the day today to transplant into my HD600... I'll reply back with my HD650 impressions later tonight.

 

The K701 is a tricky headphone to amp up.  You have to figure out which camp you are in.  Do you like its upper midrange harmonic resonance?  Or are you part of camp-B that finds it to be plastic-ey, synthetic, artificial and weird overall?  Depending on the amp you chose, it will have an effect on the overall K701 sound.  My worst offender is my Millet hybrid, for whatever reason it sounds really odd with the K701.  Solo acoustic guitar is just "off" sounding with this pairing.  The 701 I think sounds better with tube even order distortion, it tends to work well with the 701 harmonic content.  The K701 amped with the 337 through output transformers sounds really really good.

post #4 of 9

A single-ended triode amplifer, running 2A3 or 45s as output. Musical bliss with the LCD2s and the HD800s.

 

Not cheap though, alas. 


Edited by vkalia - 3/6/14 at 12:05pm
post #5 of 9
Thread Starter 

DV337 seems interesting, but even more I am attracted LaFigaro 339 (which refers davidsh). 
It does not have the output transformer, which you mention in the introduction (l am tube technical newbie).

Do you think that 339 I hold you in my interest? 
add K701: camp-A completely 


Thanks

post #6 of 9

I dont know how well an OTL amp will pair up with the LCD2's relatively low 50-60ohm impedance.   Although it is a fairly flat curve, so if possible, give it a try before.

post #7 of 9
Most OTL's won't pair well to my knowledge. Some few will.
I forgot to mention the fosgate signature. Gets some serious praise by two users in the he-500 thread.
post #8 of 9
Thread Starter 

Well, 
seems planars too complicated selection. 
To become familiar with the tubes may be better to ignore them.
It remains therefore HD650, HD800, T1 and K701 (which as mentioned are also not without problems)...

But I'm not giving up, LaFigaro 339 still seems good.

post #9 of 9
HD800 any day
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