The JVC FX850..Woodie perfection?. (A review)
Apr 23, 2015 at 9:29 PM Post #2,986 of 3,535
I had the same problem. Tried the Medium and Large spiral dots that came with the woodies. Needed something in between... and found it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JVC-Victor-EP-FX9ML-B-Size-ML-Spiral-Dot-Earpiece-For-HA-FX850-from-Japan-/171750879660?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27fd2671ac
The ML fit perfectly. If nothing else works, give these a try..
 
Apr 23, 2015 at 11:33 PM Post #2,988 of 3,535
   
That depends on the size and shape of one's ear canals. I have large canals and the Spinfits fit me less securely than stock tips. Their silicone is a lot thinner and less rubbery.

for univeral iems it is difficult to achieve the perfect seal unless you go for ciem...
 
Apr 24, 2015 at 2:14 AM Post #2,989 of 3,535
  for univeral iems it is difficult to achieve the perfect seal unless you go for ciem...

 
This is a wide generalization that I don't agree with. Some people have no problem at all with universals and other people have had 5+ refits on their customs and still no perfect seal.
 
Personally, I have experience with both and although I have a very good seal with my customs, I don't feel they're better in that regard than most of my universals. In fact, they're less convenient to put in and take out than most of my universals. Not to mention the bone-conduction-induced amplification of footfall noise due to their hard acrylic shell, which can be a total pita when you're on the move.
 
Achieving a perfect seal with universals takes first and foremost time and patience, because in some cases you'll have to try a lot of different options. Today I'm able to get a perfect seal with the vast majority of my 50+ IEMs collection, but with some of them it took me many hours of learning by experiment (still less than for getting ear impressions and waiting for a ciem or possible refits :wink:.
 
However, here's the best part about universals: once you've gathered experience on how different tips influence the sound (short / long stem, straight / tapered tube, full / leaky seal, etc...), you're not stuck with the stock sound any more, but can use different tips to shape the sound signature to your liking. With customs, you're pretty much stuck with how they sound, for better or worse.
 
Just a few thoughts on a very complex topic. 
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Apr 24, 2015 at 2:26 AM Post #2,990 of 3,535
That depends on the size and shape of one's ear canals. I have large canals and the Spinfits fit me less securely than stock tips. Their silicone is a lot thinner and less rubbery.


Agreed. I actually bought a pair of the Lg since the M wasn't a perfect fit for me and discovered that I'm probably somewhere in between like a ML or so. The L simply doesn't work at all due to the flimsy silicon. I can get a seal with the M with a deep insertion but otherwise the thinnish silicon actually warps and creates a leaky seal. I then have to twist the IEM once it's seated in order to rectify that. If Spinfits used a similar grade of silicon as the Ortofons, it'd be a great tip, as is, I find it to be an interesting idea with a flawed execution. Caveat emptor and all that jazz
 
Apr 24, 2015 at 3:25 AM Post #2,991 of 3,535
I agree with @james444 I have no problems getting a seal with universal fits. And tip rolling can be fun too.
 
Apr 24, 2015 at 5:02 AM Post #2,992 of 3,535
 
  Is any one having a fit issues with these? i just got these yesterday..and I am finding it really hard for these earphones to stay in my ears. i tried the medium and large tips but no significant change..When ever i move my head they just pop out of the ears..Any suggestions to deal with this problem?


You need Spinfits - I`ve never found anything that seals as well, especially with heavier IEMs like the 850 and 1100.  

Where can I get Spinfits? I am very curious as to the fit, but am worried about the impact on sound quality. I really want to try them out!
 
Apr 24, 2015 at 12:24 PM Post #2,995 of 3,535
Bear in mind these are quite a shallow fit IEM as the nozzle is quite shallow. I had fit and comfort issues with mine, so much so to the point I decided to sell them..

No you are right, I was also thinking of returning these to the seller..but I will first try different tips suggested here..they do sound really good once I get a good seal...
 
Apr 24, 2015 at 12:38 PM Post #2,996 of 3,535
No you are right, I was also thinking of returning these to the seller..but I will first try different tips suggested here..they do sound really good once I get a good seal...

Oh no doubt these are sonically at least, very capable. I did love the sound they produced, unfortunately I couldn't justify keeping them when I didn't look forward to using them :/ having said that tips can make a massive difference
 
Apr 25, 2015 at 8:35 AM Post #2,997 of 3,535
   
I had the FX1100 but just couldn`t get into them, still don`t understand what JVC was going for with them.  I know some headfiers swear by the modded FX1100 . . .   

I was really excited about buying a pair of JVC HA-FX1200s (1100s) after reading all the rave reviews.  When I went to buy them I wisely decided to demo the entire HA-FX Woody line (FX650/750/850/1200) to include a few older models (HA-FX 500/700) that were still in stock. I absolutely hated the 1200s and loved/preferred the 750s! I did not like the highs on the 1200s and due to my sensitive ears they actually irritated and bothered me. Although the 1200s sounded the most like open headphones and offered an improved sound stage they were too hard for me to listen too... almost if they were pushing the music too hard... they were harsh; I immediately knew that I would fatigue easily listening to them. Due to their larger size and shape coupled with a heavy and bulky detachable cables the 1200s were simply too difficult to insert and fell out easily of my small ears. The most important factor to me after fit/comfort was listening level... I found that I could actually listen to the 750s at a lower volume than the 1200s.

The 750s are timbre monsters!

 
Apr 25, 2015 at 11:40 AM Post #2,999 of 3,535
  I was really excited about buying a pair of JVC HA-FX1200s (1100s) after reading all the rave reviews.  When I went to buy them I wisely decided to demo the entire HA-FX Woody line (FX650/750/850/1200) to include a few older models (HA-FX 500/700) that were still in stock. I absolutely hated the 1200s and loved/preferred the 750s! I did not like the highs on the 1200s and due to my sensitive ears they actually irritated and bothered me. Although the 1200s sounded the most like open headphones and offered an improved sound stage they were too hard for me to listen too... almost if they were pushing the music too hard... they were harsh; I immediately knew that I would fatigue easily listening to them. Due to their larger size and shape coupled with a heavy and bulky detachable cables the 1200s were simply too difficult to insert and fell out easily of my small ears. The most important factor to me after fit/comfort was listening level... I found that I could actually listen to the 750s at a lower volume than the 1200s.

The 750s are timbre monsters!

 
All of the wooden JVCs are timbre monsters! Your experience with the 1200 (1100) and small ears sounds to me like you couldn't get a good fit, because imo their treble is actually the most benign of the series.
 
  What exactly is the mod?  Tape over the hole vents or the back brass ring vent?

 
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Apr 25, 2015 at 11:47 AM Post #3,000 of 3,535
   
All of the wooden JVCs are timbre monsters! Your experience with the 1200 (1100) and small ears sounds to me like you couldn't get a good fit, because imo their treble is actually the most benign of the series.
 
 
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Hey james444, how would you compare the FX850 to the Ostry KC06A? Are these Ostrys still 90% of your UERM?
 

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