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Shure 846 vs. JH Roxanne's - Page 2

post #16 of 109
Thread Starter 
I'm having a hard time believing a $1000 unicameral sounds as good or better than a $1600 custom....but seeing as I haven't heard either one yet, who am I to judge...I'm strongly considering canceling my JH order to buy the Shure now....how is the bass compare on the 2 iem's? I am not a bass head by any means, but due to some of my music preferences, I do like a strong and deep presence, which one feels more like sitting by a subwoofer?
post #17 of 109
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Originally Posted by IaHawkeye View Post

I'm having a hard time believing a $1000 unicameral sounds as good or better than a $1600 custom....but seeing as I haven't heard either one yet, who am I to judge...I'm strongly considering canceling my JH order to buy the Shure now....how is the bass compare on the 2 iem's? I am not a bass head by any means, but due to some of my music preferences, I do like a strong and deep presence, which one feels more like sitting by a subwoofer?

This is the only thing which is better on 846s when Roxanne - the Subwoofer feel of the bass. In everything else and especially highs Roxanne wins. (My own humble opinion). If your main music preference is bass heavy like dubstep or dub techno, just go for 846. For everything else - Roxanne.

post #18 of 109
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Originally Posted by IaHawkeye View Post

I'm having a hard time believing a $1000 unicameral sounds as good or better than a $1600 custom....but seeing as I haven't heard either one yet, who am I to judge...I'm strongly considering canceling my JH order to buy the Shure now....how is the bass compare on the 2 iem's? I am not a bass head by any means, but due to some of my music preferences, I do like a strong and deep presence, which one feels more like sitting by a subwoofer?


Also, you cant just cancel the JHA order. They won't let you.

post #19 of 109

Now, when I have my Roxanne back from refit and have been spending some time with it, guess what, 846 going back in the box as a back up pair. Hands down to the beautiful "subwoof" effect of 846, but everything else is just better with Roxannes. And not only the sound quality, but also the isolation, fit and the best cable connectors in the world. Can't wait for the custom cable to be made. it will take them to another level of "audio nirvana".

 

post #20 of 109

I will be receiving my Roxannes this week. Will compare it with my Shures on the AK240.

post #21 of 109

subd

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post #22 of 109
Indeed
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Originally Posted by JAG87 View Post

I don't understand why people bother comparing a universal to a custom. At this level, the difference is really not in the sound. They can both be excellent, and even though one may slightly better satisfy your sound quality expectations, it will not be a game changer like moving up from a low-end or mid-tier IEM.

The real difference here is that a universal will always bring along it's fit issues. Longer initial insertion time, cable tug seal loss = longer re-insertion time, exercise/movement/sweat seal loss = longer re-insertion time. Plus the possibility that you are neither a S nor a M, or neither a M nor a L, and the former doesn't seal enough while the latter puts too much pressure. If you are willing to put up with that to obtain a higher resale value, then all power to you.

If on the other hand you value more something something that just fits correctly, immediately, then get a custom.

At this luxurious four digit price level, for me it's a pretty simple choice. However, if current TOTL universals we're priced say at $500, then it would be a much harder decision.

Well said
Edited by Lukalop - 3/15/14 at 5:39am
post #23 of 109
Having owned numerous universals and customs, it depends on the universal. I find some universals much faster for inserting and removing. And I've never had a problem find the right tip, since my tip collection is pretty large. Surprisingly I can insert and remove my silicone custom quicker than my acrylics. There are plenty on either side of this debate and I'd say the answer is very individual, without cut and dry answers.
post #24 of 109
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Originally Posted by vladzakhar View Post

Now, when I have my Roxanne back from refit and have been spending some time with it, guess what, 846 going back in the box as a back up pair. Hands down to the beautiful "subwoof" effect of 846, but everything else is just better with Roxannes. And not only the sound quality, but also the isolation, fit and the best cable connectors in the world. Can't wait for the custom cable to be made. it will take them to another level of "audio nirvana".



I'm still waiting for your comparison please....

Side note, I'm so jealous of your AK240! I hope I can afford one someday but the wife would castrate me
post #25 of 109
Thread Starter 
I meant to quote someone else....ignore that post, lol you already stated why you liked the Roxanne's more
post #26 of 109
I have a question regarding sound signature. When people say that the sound is neutral, what EXACTLY does this mean? I have heard the JH's are very neutral so I assume that means they hardly colour the sound, only to then hear some people don't like the JH13's because they have the JH 'house sound.' What on earth does that mean, if they're neutral then they should sound neutral. Does this mean to say all headphones that sound neutral carry the JH 'house sound.' At this point it seems like people are just inventing new words and phrases.. Confused :s
post #27 of 109
There's really no such thing as a completely neutral phone. There are just degrees of more or less neutral.

With that in mind the JH13 is fairly neutral. The JH house sound is boosted bass and treble to sound exciting. His more neutral offerings still have this but to a lessor degree. For instance I find the JH13 bass too boosted to really call it a neutral reference. Some even call it a slight U signature due to treble peaks. The UERM has less bass and is more neutral from bass through the midrange but depending on fit and canal length of the UERM nozzle, it can have treble elevated a bit over neutral but for the most part is an overall more neutral iem than the JH13. Both are great products.

This is an over simplified explanation but hopefully it helps.
Edited by shotgunshane - 3/19/14 at 12:41pm
post #28 of 109
I see, that rings a bell also.
What are V-Shaped and U-Shaped signatures?
post #29 of 109
U shape means slight elevations in bass and treble but mostly flat through the mids. Bass elevation is usually deeper bass. Mids don't really sound recessed.

V shape means a sharp dip/valley somewhere in the midrange with obvious sounding recession to vocals or guitars. Bass and treble boosts are more obvious/larger. Think the UE TF10 or JVC FX700.
post #30 of 109

Quick questions: Do you take along time to put on Roxanne? I have the SE 846 custom sleeves and it takes along time to put on/off. 

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