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sturdy closed low-spill over-ear office allrounder w. detachable cable max: 250€ recommendations

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 

Hello,

 

I'm looking for a new headphone and wish to aquire some expertise and experience from the esteemed community.

The headphone will be used mostly in the office but also at home (and possibly mobile) w. all kinds of music.

It should be capable to deliver decent bass. The audio source will mostly be 192-320kbits mp3 online music stream.

I'm currently using a superlux HD661. I was impressed by it's sound quality and punch, especially for the price.

 

I'm looking for a nice headphone with the following specs:

  • price: max 250€ (I would be more comfortable going in the 150€ sector),great value! good bang for buck ratio
  • none or not much noise spill even on a fairly loud volume (office environment w. people not 2 meters away), so I assume closed is the only option? [even my closed superlux 661 has too much spill]
  • detachable standard cable, so no special custom cable from the manufacturer (but they should not come apart too easily - my superlux use a small clip for that)
  • very, very comfortable for prolonged sessions of wearing (e.g. a workday of 9hrs)
  • big full sized headphone, over ear - no on-ear or iem or other mobile stuff
  • very well built, durable: no headphones that break easily or have a flimsy construction! - it should easily survive several drops of 1 meter table height to a hard floor
  •    I'm planning to use them for 7+ years
  • easy to drive (main sources:mp3 player, notebook, pc) -> so no amp or high ohm stuff if possible
  •     alternatively: I'm willing to consider amped-only headphones but only when it's a major improvement to un-amped and someone can recommend a decent cheapish mobile amp (<40€ used or new)
  • good sound quality - a step up compared to the Superlux
  • replaceable ear pads
  • should be available in Germany (online)
  • no Sony's - I don't like Sony :)
  • 2 socket jacks is a plus, in case one breaks

 

I'm not really into modding. So the only thing I'm willing and capable to do is to replace ear pads (so please also recommend headphones + ear pad replacements) but not anything substantial.

 

I'm looking for recommendations that fit the above criteria.

I'm also looking for comments of the mentioned headphones (regarding to what extend they match my requirements), general comments and comparison statements.

The goal here is first to compile a list of possible headphones, rate and rank them so at the end I have a smaller list of a couple of headphones which I go test or order and test.

 

updated list of headpones still in the race (+/- no of recommendations/oppositions)

++NAD VISO HP 50 - 265€ : 2 sockets

+++V-MODA Crossfade M-100 - 260€ (216€) : 2 sockets

Ultrasone PRO 750 - 250€ : 5yrs manufacturer's warranty

AKG K 545 - 200€ (175)

Ultrasone DJ-1 Pro - 190€ : 5yrs manufacturer's warranty
Ultrasone DJ Pro 550 - 180€ : 5yrs manufacturer's warranty
+Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro - 160€ : custom cable (but might be able to cut a new cable head to fit)
Marshall Headphone Monitor - 160€
Creative Aurvana Live! 2 - 100-120€
KOSS pro DJ 200 - 66€
Superlux HD-662 F - 30€

Superlux HD330 + amp - 25€ + amp

 

sorted out so far:

 

Focal Spirit Classic - 300€ (200€) :no replaceable ear pads, ear pads too small,  Update 1

Sennheiser Momentum - 230€ (200) : custom cable? too small ear cups

+Audio Technica ATH-M50x - 160€ : see Update 1

Shure seems to have some kind of proprietary cabling or cable

*Shure SRH840 - 150€

Shure SRH750DJ - 110€ : looks flimsy

Shure SRH440 - 100€

KRK KNS 8400 - 130€ : see Update 1

Onkyo ES-HF300 - 170€ : on-ear

Brainwavz HM5 - didn't find them in Germany

M-Audio Q40 - not available in Germany?

 

p.s. If there's an uber-headphone for 50€ over my budget, don't hesitate to mention it

 

Update 1:

Today I've tried a couple of headphones on the list in a store. (Crappy store so I couldn't really test how they sound)

Here are the results:

Focal Sprit Classic - ear pads too small - rejected

KRK KNS 8400 - feels like it would break easily, not too comfortable - rejected

Audio Technica ATH-M50x - ear pads not deep enough, not as comfortable as others - rejected

Ultrasone 550 - more comfortable that M50 but feels a little heavy -> pressure on top of the head, screw thread at the cable, ugly cheapish gray - whoever designed this must be blind

Ultrasone 750 - same as 550, but more comfortable ear pads and better looking

Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro - light, comfortable, a tad too much pressure on the sides but still alright. I worry about the little cables each sides, though

(Beyerdynamic Dt 770 as comparison in comfortableness) - light, even more comfortable than the custom one pro

I also tried the Shure's, while comfort was alright, I didn't like the small cables on the sides, they also felt a tad flimsy

-> so still a couple of headpones to go, especially the first, most recommended, two.


Edited by invaderzim - 3/7/14 at 12:18pm
post #2 of 16

Why do you need our help? You seem to be on top of things! :D

 

Just buy the nice looking V-MODA ones. It's never bad to look stylish when being in an office.

post #3 of 16

KOSS pro DJ 200

M-Audio Q40

Creative Aurvana Live! 2


Edited by Sam21 - 3/2/14 at 2:03pm
post #4 of 16
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by TwoEars View Post
 

Why do you need our help? You seem to be on top of things! :D

 

Just buy the nice looking V-MODA ones. It's never bad to look stylish when being in an office.


I am hoping for a couple of suggestions that I missed and mostly some comparison regarding sound and build quality of the listed headphones.

A ranking of some sorts would be nice. Something along the lines of:

SoundQuality: headphone1 > headphone3 > headphone2

BuildQuality: headphone3 > headphone 2 > headphone1

Style is not really a concern for me. It might as well look like a tractor for all I care.


Edited by invaderzim - 3/4/14 at 11:49am
post #5 of 16
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Originally Posted by invaderzim View Post

 

sorted out so far:

Shure seems to have some kind of proprietary cabling or cable

Shure SRH840 - 150€

Shure SRH750DJ - 110€ : looks flimsy

Shure SRH440 - 100€

Brainwavz HM5 - didn't find them in Germany

 

 

Shure does not use a proprietary cable, the end that connects to the headphones is just a 2.5mm trs plug. It's even locking so it won't come out while moving around.

 

I wouldn't be so quick to discount the SRH840, it seems to match all of your criteria.

 

I've had my pair for almost 3 years now and they've been pretty bomb-proof. Built like a tank.

post #6 of 16
Nad viso: good, very comfortable
Sennheiser momentum: not comfortable long term unless you have very small ears
Focals: good all around, but the professionals will need an amp
V-moda: very good, built like a tank, no way you could break them, but are slightly bass focused
Phillips x1: very good all around, if you are worried about comfort with the stock earpads, don't they are quite comfortable
Audio technica m50x: very good all around, but I think the focals sound a bit better (have only listened to the spirit one, don't know about the classic)
Beyerdynamic COP: in the us the cable is just 3.5mm to 3.5 mm not sure about in Germany, otherwise treble and bass heavy but good if you like that kind of sound

Hope this will help you!biggrin.gif

Edit: I would also recommend the focal spirit on over the focal spirit classic. I haven't heard the classics, but I've heard the spirit ones sound better with portable sources.
Also, why no sony? The mdr-1r would probably be a good fit for you
Edited by Sonic7381 - 3/4/14 at 2:58pm
post #7 of 16
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Sonic7381 View Post

Also, why no sony? The mdr-1r would probably be a good fit for you

 

I don't like Sony.

 

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Originally Posted by CloudMoose View Post
 

Shure does not use a proprietary cable, the end that connects to the headphones is just a 2.5mm trs plug. It's even locking so it won't come out while moving around.

 

Without the special shure cable the locking mechanism won't work, right? So I think it might be too loose and unplug too easily.

 

 

p.s. the focals are out of the race because the ear pads are non-replaceable.

post #8 of 16
I've been wondering, what's the big deal with earpads being replaceable? If they are comfortable in the first place, why does it matter? I've owned quite a few pairs of headphones and never needed to replace them
post #9 of 16
New find you might be interested in: German meastro 8.35d. Not the prettiest thing, but sounds good
post #10 of 16

Of your list the following are your best buys given price and sound quality.  Unfortunately they happen to be the most expensive ones.

NAD VISO HP 50 - 265€ : 2 sockets

V-MODA Crossfade M-100 - 260€ (216€)

post #11 of 16
Take the onkyo es hf300 off your list. They are over ear

Edit: they are on ear not over ear
Edited by Sonic7381 - 3/5/14 at 5:13am
post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by Sonic7381 View Post

Take the onkyo es hf300 off your list. They are over ear
The majority of the cans he mentioned are over-ear. Did you mean "on-ear?"
post #13 of 16
Lol sorry yes I did mean on ear and he said he wanted over ear
post #14 of 16
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Sonic7381 View Post

New find you might be interested in: German meastro 8.35d. Not the prettiest thing, but sounds good

I read it has a non-detachable cable

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic7381 View Post

Take the onkyo es hf300 off your list. They are over ear

Thanks - done.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic7381 View Post

I've been wondering, what's the big deal with earpads being replaceable? If they are comfortable in the first place, why does it matter? I've owned quite a few pairs of headphones and never needed to replace them

Because I plan to use this headphone for a long time (10+ years maybe?) and I suspect that there could be severe degradation issues. Let's just say they might get wet, dirty, damaged/slashed or don't retain their shape or comfortableness over the years. I am not spending so much money on a headphone only to have to throw it away if there's develops an issue with ear pads. Saying that, the innerfidelity guy mentioned the focal spirit company may release replaceable ear-pads for their headphones in the foreseeable future. So they might still be in the race. But they might also be too small, I'll hope I can find them somewhere to try them on in Berlin. If there are such non-replaceable as ear-pads or cable I would require 10 years guarantee from the manufacturer. But I don't think anyone has that, especially not for those kind of wearing parts. I will add the number of years the manufacturer's are willing to give a guarantee for the listed headphones.


Edited by invaderzim - 3/5/14 at 3:39pm
post #15 of 16
Ok, thanks for clearing that up for me:)
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