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post #1 of 13
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Hey Folks.

Glad to be aboard.  Thanks for the awesome website and forums.

 

I am looking to purchase a new pair of headphones, and I'm looking for some advice and recommendations.
My budget for headphones is in the area of $250 dollars, give or take a little.

 

My specific usage would entail two areas.  The first is PC gaming, which would make up about 80% of my usage.  The second area of use would be listening to my library of almost 1000 hours of live Grateful Dead digital audio tapes, which would make up about 15% of my usage.  I have two consumer DAT decks that I use for taping and a studio DAT deck that I use for playback.  There might be a little bit of general musical usage as well through my PC or stereo.  After I get my tax return I'll be looking to buy a PC sound card and a headphone amp.  Right now I'm just looking for a new pair of headphones.

 

I am replacing a pair of Sennheiser full size over the ear headphones that got destroyed during a move I made last month into a new house.  They were basic and cost under $170.  I also had a Sennheiser headset, an ear pad cheapo, the PC166.  Due to my budget, I want to get one pair of headphones that I can use for both PC gaming and DAT listening duties.  I'm not sure if a good ear pad headphone is preferred for my usage, or if a full size over the ear headphone would be preferable.  I've listed a few of both types after reading reviews and would appreciate any advice you could give me.

 

For the ear pad headphones that fit my budget, I've read good reviews on these:

 

1) Sennheiser Amperior

 

2) Sennheiser Momentum

 

3) Sennheiser HD 25-1 II

 

(Each would require a mic for PC gaming use.)


The list of full size over the ear headphones that I made based on reviews:

 

1) Sennheiser PC360 Gaming Headset.(includes a mic.)

 

2) AKG Q701 Headphones.(I'd have to add a mic.)

 

3) Philips Fidelio X1.(I'd have to add a mic.)

 

4) Sony MA900.(I'd have to add a mic.)

 

I noted that the Sony MA900's were listed in the review at $180. but they have apparently been discontinued and are now going for about $240. I don't know if they warrant the new higher price, but I listed them since they were a favorite within my budget.  I left out the Beyer DT990 Pro 250ohm as I'd need an amp (and a mic) just to use them and I believe that would place them over my current budget.

 

I would also be open to other suggestions, and any advice would be greatly appreciated.

post #2 of 13

I really like the AKG Q701. I did own it, but sold it to buy more headphones. They had a wide open soundstage, which was a bit un-natural like other people have mentioned, nut they are neutral and do sound very good. 

A cheap mic you could use if you were to purchse a pair of headphones without a mic, the Samson Go Mic is only $40USD and I think is very value orientated.

 

I've heard the Senn Amperior but I feel that it was very over hyped. I was really looking forward to listening to them, but I just didn't like them that much. I didn't feel as if it had the clarity, open-ness, neutrality as other headphones that I've tried. That was a while ago, I don't remember the set up that I was listening from so that's something that you should consider while reading my opinion.

 

That's the best that I can tell you since my headphones life has been limited so I can't help you that much.

 

TLDR +1 Q701 

+1 Samson Go Mic

-1 Senn Amperior

post #3 of 13
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Thanks syNRG.  I appreciate the insight.  I'll have to look into that mic as I hadn't heard of it before.  I read about replacing the headphone cable with a Vmoda BoomPro for about $30., but it isn't applicable to every headphone.  I read its a good match for the Fidelio X1, as the cable should be replaced anyways, but I'm not sure if it would work with the others I had listed, so I appreciate your recommendation on the Samson Go MIc.  Thanks also for the info on the Amperiors.  I consider that style as ear pad phones seem light and I sometimes wear my headphones for most of the day.  I haven't done that with full size over ear headphones and I want to make sure that  whatever I get is comfortable for all day usage. 

post #4 of 13
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Originally Posted by Dannek View Post
 

Thanks syNRG.  I appreciate the insight.  I'll have to look into that mic as I hadn't heard of it before.  I read about replacing the headphone cable with a Vmoda BoomPro for about $30., but it isn't applicable to every headphone.  I read its a good match for the Fidelio X1, as the cable should be replaced anyways, but I'm not sure if it would work with the others I had listed, so I appreciate your recommendation on the Samson Go MIc.  Thanks also for the info on the Amperiors.  I consider that style as ear pad phones seem light and I sometimes wear my headphones for most of the day.  I haven't done that with full size over ear headphones and I want to make sure that  whatever I get is comfortable for all day usage. 

In my opininion, most comfort issues can evenually be solved. They mainly come from clamping force or poor distribution of weight. Most of the time, clamping force can be solved (by stretching the band overnight or for a few days), and poor distribution of weight is something that rarely happens these days. A lot of comfort issues on most popular headphones have been imporived by doing mods which can be found on the site, or by replacing pads; unless it's the A-T Pro700 MKII which was the most uncomfortable thing that I put on my head.

If you have a local headphone store, you should try some of the things out. Go look at the models, remember them, then go home and check the weight. In audio, a lot of things are subjective. Some people think that things are uncomfortable/heavy and others don't. 

I can't help you with the X1 at all unfortunatly. You can make a new thread about that if you haven't relaly found what you're looking for elsewhere.

As to the Samson, I can assure you that it is better than anything that you will find on a headset, (you can youtube it) and at under $50, it's unmatched. Samson also has some more expensive offerings under $100, but the Go Mic is the best value orientated of all-has 3 recording modes that you might want to look up that offer different levels of sensitivity.

post #5 of 13
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Originally Posted by Dannek View Post
 

Hey Folks.

Glad to be aboard.  Thanks for the awesome website and forums.

 

I am looking to purchase a new pair of headphones, and I'm looking for some advice and recommendations.
My budget for headphones is in the area of $250 dollars, give or take a little.

Sennheiser HD558 headphones, Amazon sells used for $94.

Creative labs Sound Blaster Z sound card, $75-$100

post #6 of 13

do you sound-hore really hard on fps? because some of the phones don't fit the bill so well like the AKG or Amperiors.

post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post
 

Sennheiser HD558 headphones, Amazon sells used for $94.

Creative labs Sound Blaster Z sound card, $75-$100


Thanks for the input PurpleAngel.

 

I am going to get a sound card when my tax return comes back in a month or so.

So my budget of $250 is just for the headphones or a headset.

Based on that, so you still recommend the HD558's?

post #8 of 13
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do you sound-hore really hard on fps? because some of the phones don't fit the bill so well like the AKG or Amperiors.


Hi Jeff.

 

Thanks for your reply.

I'll put it this way.  I play a lot of Team Fortress 2, but I no longer play competitively.  I used to play ESEA intermediate, but now it 's just pugs and pubs.

My reactions are more based on visual queue's I'd say, but hearing a spy uncloak behind me is important as well.  I also play BF3 and a few MMO's from time to time.

I read that the AKG Q701's are a good headphone for competitive gaming, and that the Fidelio X1's are a good all round headphone for general gaming.

 

I'm also not sure if "lightweight on ear" or "full size over ear" headphones would be more comfortable for all day gaming on the weekends. That is why I listed both types.

post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by Dannek View Post
 


Hi Jeff.

 

Thanks for your reply.

I'll put it this way.  I play a lot of Team Fortress 2, but I no longer play competitively.  I used to play ESEA intermediate, but now it 's just pugs and pubs.

My reactions are more based on visual queue's I'd say, but hearing a spy uncloak behind me is important as well.  I also play BF3 and a few MMO's from time to time.

I read that the AKG Q701's are a good headphone for competitive gaming, and that the Fidelio X1's are a good all round headphone for general gaming.

 

I'm also not sure if "lightweight on ear" or "full size over ear" headphones would be more comfortable for all day gaming on the weekends. That is why I listed both types.

well I do like the AKG but it is not really good for gaming if you are wanting to sound-hor because the soundstage of most AKGs including K550s, K701s, etc are all to the right and to the left. It makes it sound not so natural or all-around you as other headphones can get. But the directional accuracy is pretty good though. I would go with full-size like the HD588, HD598, etc.

post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by Jeff Y View Post
 

well I do like the AKG but it is not really good for gaming if you are wanting to sound-hor because the soundstage of most AKGs including K550s, K701s, etc are all to the right and to the left. It makes it sound not so natural or all-around you as other headphones can get. But the directional accuracy is pretty good though. I would go with full-size like the HD588, HD598, etc.


Thanks again.

 

I think I'm going to rule out the Q701's based on what you've said and after reading about them some more from a gaming perspective.  I think after reading more comparisons, the X1's are very similar to the Q701's for gaming and the X1's would be better for my usage overall.  I'm still considering the PC360, the X1, and the MA900.  I will also consider the 5 series Sennheisers with a mic.  I hope to get to best buy tomorrow to do a fit comparison between between the on ear and the full size over ear headphones.  Unless I find the on ear much more comfortable, I'll eliminate that category all together.


Edited by Dannek - 3/1/14 at 5:29pm
post #11 of 13
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I also wanted to thank" syNRG" again as just read a post in another thread where he/you stated that you didn't think that the PC line of Sennheisers was worth the price.  I had read that the PC360 sound very close to the HD595, but for slightly more than the PC360 I can get a pair of HD598's and a nice mic like a Samson or Vmoda.  So I'm going to replace the PC360 on my list with the HD598's and a mic. since I will be using them for music as well.

post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by Dannek View Post
 


Thanks for the input PurpleAngel.

 

I am going to get a sound card when my tax return comes back in a month or so.

So my budget of $250 is just for the headphones or a headset.

Based on that, so you still recommend the HD558's?

The HD558 is the cheapest (used $94) I would recommend.

A lot of people can be undecided on what headphones to get, so I just try to suggest the lowest costing but still decent headphones.

 

You can look into the AKG K612 Pro, Q701, 702, 712 and Beyer DT880 or DT990.

Philips X1 Fidelio seems to be well liked.

post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post
 

The HD558 is the cheapest (used $94) I would recommend.

A lot of people can be undecided on what headphones to get, so I just try to suggest the lowest costing but still decent headphones.

 

You can look into the AKG K612 Pro, Q701, 702, 712 and Beyer DT880 or DT990.

Philips X1 Fidelio seems to be well liked.


Thanks again PurpleAngel.

 

I appreciate your consideration for value.  I place that right up there with comfort and sound quality as my most important considerations..

 

I've read a lot of direct comparisons between the Q701 and the X1, and ultimately decided the X1's bass and gaming qualities would be better for my usage.

Unfortunately I don't have any option other than Best Buy to demo headphones.  I'd love to be able to try on and listen to all on my list, but that's not an option for me.

I did look at the DT990's as well, the Pro 250ohm, but found that while the price is really nice at just under $150, after I added a needed amp and mic they'd be over my current budget.  I'm thinking of dropping the Sony MA900s as well, as they've been discontinued and their price has risen from $180. to $240 or more.  I think for that price the X1's are a better value.  So it may come down to the Phillips X1's, the Sennheiser 5 series, or possibly one of the on ear headphones I mentioned if I find them more comfortable than the over the ear style.  Hopefully I'll get to try both styles at least at Best Buy tomorrow, even if it's not the ones on my list.

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