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What do you think about the mcintosh d100

I run the McIntosh D100 ahead of the Liquid Gold (as DAC) - as I can run the system fully balanced from back to front.

My favorite cans to run with this combo are the Audeze LCD-X, or LCD-3 (the XC also sounds fantastic, as do my HD800s - 

but the X and 3 have a truly magical presentation when used in this system).

 

This combination, next to the D100 + E.A.R HP4 - has provided me with some of the greatest music playback experiences I've

ever had - and after 20 years in the Hifi and music industries I don't arrive at that statement lightly. I'm working on a full review 

right now. But the combo is stunningly dynamic and musically engaging. Sometimes I can't pull myself away from it like the greatest

drug!!!!

 

I can't recommend the D100 enough, especially if you're going to use the Liquid Gold or Lightning with it!!

 

If interested - HERE'S A LINK to our review of the McIntosh D100 at Audio360.org.

 

The D100 is part of my permanent reference system now...

and the Liquid Gold soon will be! I gotta figure out how to justify it to the wifey after last years audio budget.

 

But seriously, I haven't heard a system that comes close to the magic of these components together:

 

 

 

post #32 of 41

Thanks a lot for posting your impressions, did you plug your ATH-A900X into Liquid Gold's left or right single-ended output?

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608889/audio-technica-ath-a900x-discussion-thread-formerly-a-900x-review

 

Someone tried TH900 / ED10 with low-impedance and high-sensitivity but did not like really the hiss from Liquid Gold

 

http://www.sizazhi.com/m/3686387252078550

 

http://www.headphoneclub.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=248801&page=3#pid3313671

 

That's why it would be interesting to know how much hiss could be heard as a result of pairing ATH-A900X with Liquid Gold.

post #33 of 41
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Originally Posted by mikemercer View Post
 

I run the McIntosh D100 ahead of the Liquid Gold (as DAC) - as I can run the system fully balanced from back to front.

My favorite cans to run with this combo are the Audeze LCD-X, or LCD-3 (the XC also sounds fantastic, as do my HD800s - 

but the X and 3 have a truly magical presentation when used in this system).

 

This combination, next to the D100 + E.A.R HP4 - has provided me with some of the greatest music playback experiences I've

ever had - and after 20 years in the Hifi and music industries I don't arrive at that statement lightly. I'm working on a full review 

right now. But the combo is stunningly dynamic and musically engaging. Sometimes I can't pull myself away from it like the greatest

drug!!!!

 

I can't recommend the D100 enough, especially if you're going to use the Liquid Gold or Lightning with it!!

 

If interested - HERE'S A LINK to our review of the McIntosh D100 at Audio360.org.

 

The D100 is part of my permanent reference system now...

and the Liquid Gold soon will be! I gotta figure out how to justify it to the wifey after last years audio budget.

 

But seriously, I haven't heard a system that comes close to the magic of these components together:

 

 

 

 

Have you ever heard the Audiolab M-Dac? I'm currently using it, and will receive my Liquid Gold in 3-5 weeks time. 

 

It would be nice to see a subjective comparison between the Audiolab M-Dac and the McIntosh D100.

post #34 of 41
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Have you ever heard the Audiolab M-Dac? I'm currently using it, and will receive my Liquid Gold in 3-5 weeks time. 

 

It would be nice to see a subjective comparison between the Audiolab M-Dac and the McIntosh D100.

 

The McIntosh D100 is a much better DAC and pre-amp. FWIW, I prefer my Resonessence Labs Concero to the M-DAC as well. The M-DAC is a solid all-in-one unit and good value for money as its price point.


Edited by daerron - 3/29/14 at 2:42pm
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Hello folks. I've gotten quite a few emails about which amp is better, Liquid Gold or Glass. Even though the Golds are sold out, there isn't really an answer to this question.

 

The Gold and Glass are two very different amps. it is hard to compare them. If the Glass were simply a tube amp the comparison would make sense, but the Glass, as many of you know, changes character significantly depending on the tubes in use. This is an intentional feature. Plus, the Glass can roll many, many different kinds of tubes. It is an extremely versatile tube hybrid amp with a big SS unity gain, very transparent buffer at its output.

 

This means that the Glass doesn't really have a fixed sound, but sounds like the tubes in use and this sound can vary a lot depending on tubes. Thus it's hard to compare it to something with a fixed sound, like a completely SS amp or even a completely tube amp which only uses a fixed set of tubes.

 

Those who own a Glass or have heard one at meets where there was time to roll some tubes know what I mean. :smile:

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post #36 of 41
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Thanks a lot for posting your impressions, did you plug your ATH-A900X into Liquid Gold's left or right single-ended output?

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608889/audio-technica-ath-a900x-discussion-thread-formerly-a-900x-review

 

Someone tried TH900 / ED10 with low-impedance and high-sensitivity but did not like really the hiss from Liquid Gold

 

http://www.sizazhi.com/m/3686387252078550

 

http://www.headphoneclub.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=248801&page=3#pid3313671

 

That's why it would be interesting to know how much hiss could be heard as a result of pairing ATH-A900X with Liquid Gold.

I'm ALL about trying my ATH-AD900X w/ the liquid gold!!

I LOVE that headphone, was just running it w/ my ALO Studio Six! I just didn't try it yet w/ the Liquid Gold as I only have single-ended termination for it - but I can still 

rock it w/ the Liquid Gold!!!

 

I've been wanting to try it.

 

Will report back!!

post #37 of 41
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Originally Posted by runeight View Post
 

Hello folks. I've gotten quite a few emails about which amp is better, Liquid Gold or Glass. Even though the Golds are sold out, there isn't really an answer to this question.

 

The Gold and Glass are two very different amps. it is hard to compare them. If the Glass were simply a tube amp the comparison would make sense, but the Glass, as many of you know, changes character significantly depending on the tubes in use. This is an intentional feature. Plus, the Glass can roll many, many different kinds of tubes. It is an extremely versatile tube hybrid amp with a big SS unity gain, very transparent buffer at its output.

 

This means that the Glass doesn't really have a fixed sound, but sounds like the tubes in use and this sound can vary a lot depending on tubes. Thus it's hard to compare it to something with a fixed sound, like a completely SS amp or even a completely tube amp which only uses a fixed set of tubes.

 

Those who own a Glass or have heard one at meets where there was time to roll some tubes know what I mean. :smile:

and who could've said it better than the master himself?

I agree completely! I heard the Liquid Glass sound different w/ different tubes at CanJam 2013!! So you can alter the sound by tube-rolling w/ the glass.

But I got lost listening to the Glass too!

post #38 of 41
Thread Starter 

Folks, first many thanks again to everyone who has bought a Liquid Gold in the last several weeks. As you all know we are sold out now. 7 amps went out this week and more next week. Those of you who have been waiting should start seeing amps.

 

There is now much more demand for these amps than this current run can fulfill. We may be able to make one or two extras, but that won't be enough. :smile:

 

We have decided to make an out-of-sequence production run over the summer, starting approximately May 1 to try to get amps to those of you who weren't able to get one on the current production run. This new run will require deposits and will probably begin shipping in August (summer production just takes a little longer). We are planning to make about 30 units for this short run.

 

We'd like to have 10 sign ups before we start the run. If you want a Liquid Gold from this run please email me at liquidgold@cavalliaudio.com

 

I have quite a few emails already from folks asking if/when there would be more available. I will respond to everyone in the next day or so, but feel free to email me again just to remind me.

 

Once we have 10 signups we will open the website for deposits. Price will remain at $3950.

 

Also, here's a review that some of you may not have seen. It will also appear in the latest issue of TAS.

 

http://www.hifiplus.com/articles/cavalli-audio-liquid-gold-fully-balanced-headphone-amplifier/

 

Thanks again for all of your support.


Edited by runeight - 4/6/14 at 7:15am
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post #39 of 41

Have to say that was one of the most glowing reviews I've read in a while which also nicely illustrated the uniquely positive attributes one can expect with the Liquid Gold which is getting to know your music intimately without colouration and constraints of any kind and an attribute which I find highly desirable in audio gear and something worth putting down the cash for. I don't even want to imagine what the Liquid Gold must sound like with something like the McIntosh D100 or other high end audio sources.. Time to contemplate a visit to the bank manager..


Edited by daerron - 4/5/14 at 7:57pm
post #40 of 41
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Thanks a lot for posting your impressions, did you plug your ATH-A900X into Liquid Gold's left or right single-ended output?

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608889/audio-technica-ath-a900x-discussion-thread-formerly-a-900x-review

 

Someone tried TH900 / ED10 with low-impedance and high-sensitivity but did not like really the hiss from Liquid Gold

 

http://www.sizazhi.com/m/3686387252078550

 

http://www.headphoneclub.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=248801&page=3#pid3313671

 

That's why it would be interesting to know how much hiss could be heard as a result of pairing ATH-A900X with Liquid Gold.

hey @seeteeyou !!

 

SO sorry for the wait here.

LOTS goin on editorially - including getting my full, formal review of the Liquid Gold done and others!!

 

So I tried (and am listening right now) to my Audio Technica ATH-AD900X's on the Liquid Gold per your inquiry:

 

I'm not sure if it's because I've got killer power distribution running under my Sonic Satori Personal Audio Lab (ALL Nordost QRT - QB8, Qx2, and Qv2 plug-ins)

But the hiss, while audible, is not heavy, and does NOT impact the music playback once playback is engaged. 

YUP... I just shut down my music again, listened for the noise (minimal) and it didn't bother me - because when I start listening its gone.

 

I know some people get hung up in things like noise when music's not playing - but, for me, I only care about what my MUSIC sounds like, not noise.

If the noise were audible during playback that would be another story! So NO concern there are far as I'm concerned.

 

Sonic Impressions w/ AD900X & Liquid Gold:

 

In two words - airy and dynamic

 

Using my McIntosh D100 as DAC, and MacBook Pro/Amarra as source - the overall presentation is silky and TIGHT.

 

While listening to Radiohead's "Everything's in its Right Place" off Kid A the sound is rapture. The forward, ripple like motion of the synths is captivating,

and Yorke's vocals pan from right to left, left to right, and stand dead center at times, hovering in space - with tonal richness like hearing him live.

 

Listening to Tricky's "Somebody's Sins"  off False Idols  - the pounding, rolling acid-bassline is as textural as I've ever heard. It's engaging and addictive.

The vocals are coherent, clear as a bell. I kept hitting repeat on this track the sound was so engrossing.

 

Boards of Canada's Tomorrow's Harvest (my full review HERE) was so all-encompassing I listened to the record 3 times in a row with this combo...

 

Using other LP's and tracks, the overall gestalt of the music was splendidly intact. I'm actually glad you asked me to try this, 

as I have a single-ended headphone that's GREAT to use in my full review! As I wanted to include commentary on its performance w/ single-ended cans too!

post #41 of 41
Thread Starter 

Hello folks. Happy to say that we have shipped all of the Liquid Gold amps for this current production run. We were only about a week behind due to some bad front panels that were rejected.

 

Many thanks to everyone who bought a Liquid Gold over the last several months. I have appreciated your email feedback. :smile:

 

The Summer run is well underway and it is about 2/3 subscribed. Everything has been ordered and we expect to meet our begin-shipping date of mid-August. The current price of $3950 will become the standard retail price for the foreseeable future. We'll keep working on our manufacturing processes to maintain this price. 

 

I've had quite a few emails asking which is better, the Liquid Gold or the Liquid Glass. And the answer is that I can't really answer that question. The Gold and Glass are two very different amps with different purposes.

 

The Gold is designed to be a neutral SS amp with a smooth, but accurate texture and a lot of extra power for planars.

 

The Glass, on the other hand, is totally designed to reveal the sound of the tubes in use. It is very good at this, as anyone who has swapped tubes in the Glass knows.

 

It is certainly possible to comparatively listen to both amps, but the differences you hear depend a LOT on what tubes are in the Glass. If you really like the sound of a particular set of tubes (even if it's colored by the natural characteristics of the triodes in use) then you might decide the Glass is the right amp for you. Sometimes the native sound of a set of tubes is captivating. :gs1000smile:

 

But, if you want a plug-and-play amp that gets itself out of the way, then the Gold is probably a more suitable amp.

 

So, it just depends........

Dr. Cavalli gained notoriety with his first DIY amplifier projects. His success has blossomed into Cavalli Audio, a world leader in amplifier design.
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