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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 

Hello

 

I need good headphones for rock and some rap and pop (mainly for rock)

 

using pc \ colorfly c3 as source

and fiio e07k as amp\dac

 

for home use only

 

thanks :D


Edited by AgentCw - 2/22/14 at 10:55am
post #2 of 16

Open, closed or either?

post #3 of 16
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post
 

Open, closed or either?

i dont mind if its open or closed, its for home use only

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post #5 of 16

Hey AgentCw,

 

Some great open options are the HD 558/598's, Beyerdynamic DT 880/990's, possibly the Hifiman HE-300's and definitely the Phillips Fideolio X1.

 

Some great closed options are the Focal Spirit One, Beyerdynamic T50p and the wonderful SoundMAGIC HP100's.

 

Hope this helped! 

post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post
 

I'd go with the DT 880 in the 250 Ohm flavor.  Here's an excellent piece about it very similar 600 Ohm big brother:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13#user_DT880

 

See also:

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/comparison-beyerdynamic-dt-880-32-ohm-dt-880-250-ohm-and-dt-880-600-ohm-headphones

Would they be better then .. lets say.. the Grado SR80i \ SR225i?

 

And will they need an amp (the DT)? Will my fiio be enough?

post #7 of 16
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post
 

I'd go with the DT 880 in the 250 Ohm flavor.  Here's an excellent piece about it very similar 600 Ohm big brother:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13#user_DT880

 

See also:

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/comparison-beyerdynamic-dt-880-32-ohm-dt-880-250-ohm-and-dt-880-600-ohm-headphones

 

 

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Originally Posted by Garraty View Post
 

Hey AgentCw,

 

Some great open options are the HD 558/598's, Beyerdynamic DT 880/990's, possibly the Hifiman HE-300's and definitely the Phillips Fideolio X1.

 

Some great closed options are the Focal Spirit One, Beyerdynamic T50p and the wonderful SoundMAGIC HP100's.

 

Hope this helped! 

Ok after checking the headphones on the web the decision would be :

 

Beyerdynamic DT 880/990

HD 558

Grado SR series

 

what would be the best with my current gear?

post #8 of 16

There are some other factors- the Grado's are great for rock but they are uncomfortable for some. If you have the chance, you should try them if you can. If the comfort and sound signature of the Grado's for genres besides rock tire you, the HD 558's are great as they are extremely comfortable and are on a great sale on Amazon right now.

 

I've never really liked the Beyers and their scooped mids, but that's just my preference and I only tried them out for a little bit. The Beyers do have many models with different impedances, so if you're worried about your gear, then they and the HD 558's should be fine. One thing to note is that the 880's have a more neutral sound with slight emphasis on the treble and the 990's have a more bassy sound with lots of treble and very recessed mids so I'd suggest to get the 880's if you get the Beyers. 

 

At the end of the day, my preference is different than that of yours and I can only give you my opinions. 

 

Best of luck!

post #9 of 16

The Grados don't have enough bass for rap.  They are great rock cans, but are uncomfortable for many (not me--but maybe you).

 

The HD 558 is an excellent can at about $150.  However, the DT 880 is a class above it, competing with the HD 600 & 650.

 

The DT 990 is a "fun" can.  Many like its "V" shaped sound signature, but it is clearly less accurate than the DT 880.

 

Your current gear will push all of these, assuming you are looking at the 250 Ohm versions of the Beyers.  The DT 880 will scale up with better equipment.

 

I don't have your specific equipment, so I (and almost everyone else) won't be able to tell with much certainty which can (each of which also must be tested) sounds best with your current kit.  I can tell you that the DT 880 is the best can that has been listed.  Your subjective preferences (which we all have) can be factored on top of that.

post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by Garraty View Post

There are some other factors- the Grado's are great for rock but they are uncomfortable for some. If you have the chance, you should try them if you can. If the comfort and sound signature of the Grado's for genres besides rock tire you, the HD 558's are great as they are extremely comfortable and are on a great sale on Amazon right now.

I've never really liked the Beyers and their scooped mids, but that's just my preference and I only tried them out for a little bit. The Beyers do have many models with different impedances, so if you're worried about your gear, then they and the HD 558's should be fine. One thing to note is that the 880's have a more neutral sound with slight emphasis on the treble and the 990's have a more bassy sound with lots of treble and very recessed mids so I'd suggest to get the 880's if you get the Beyers. 

At the end of the day, my preference is different than that of yours and I can only give you my opinions. 

Best of luck!

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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post

The Grados don't have enough bass for rap.  They are great rock cans, but are uncomfortable for many (not me--but maybe you).

The HD 558 is an excellent can at about $150.  However, the DT 880 is a class above it, competing with the HD 600 & 650.

The DT 990 is a "fun" can.  Many like its "V" shaped sound signature, but it is clearly less accurate than the DT 880.

Your current gear will push all of these, assuming you are looking at the 250 Ohm versions of the Beyers.  The DT 880 will scale up with better equipment.

I don't have your specific equipment, so I (and almost everyone else) won't be able to tell with much certainty which can (each of which also must be tested) sounds best with your current kit.  I can tell you that the DT 880 is the best can that has been listed.  Your subjective preferences (which we all have) can be factored on top of that.

First of all - thanks!

Now the options:
DT 880
Grado SR

My current phones are ATH M50, will the grado / Beyer be an upgrade?

Edited by AgentCw - 2/22/14 at 11:39am
post #11 of 16

Well, it won't be too much of an upgrade but you will definitely notice more of a refinement in your music, more detail and better soundstage. In all honesty, if you want to notice a massive improvement, you'd need to get a headphone which requires amping and perhaps a DAC.

 

That being said, this is the caveat for audiophilia- as you buy more expensive headphones, there'll be less improvements. The Beyers or Grado's won't sound as much of an improvement as listening to your M50's from just listening to cheap earbuds. 

post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by Garraty View Post
 

Well, it won't be too much of an upgrade but you will definitely notice more of a refinement in your music, more detail and better soundstage. In all honesty, if you want to notice a massive improvement, you'd need to get a headphone which requires amping and perhaps a DAC.

 

That being said, this is the caveat for audiophilia- as you buy more expensive headphones, there'll be less improvements. The Beyers or Grado's won't sound as much of an improvement as listening to your M50's from just listening to cheap earbuds. 

As I mentioned, i have Fiio E07K which is Amp+DAC

Is there any other headphones that WILL give an improvment? Using my amp or even tube desktop amp?

Because I find it hard to understad what you say. A 400$ headphones will be pretty much the same as the M50?

post #13 of 16

Not at all, AgentCw, I didn't mean that exactly. I mean to say that you'll get a lot more enjoyment of your music but the improvement won't be as HUGE as going from Apple earbuds to M50; as far as the headphones, I thought you had a $250 dollar budget? For the amp/DAC, I mean expensive combinations for expensive $500 phones that are simply fot hose who may afford it.

 

Hope this cleared things up!

post #14 of 16

The DT 880 and SR 225i will both be upgrades, although the Grado may not be an upgrade for rap.

 

To my ears the M50 is the most overrated serious can (this does not inclued the Beats & related markets) for the last several or more years.  I hear the UE 6000, Shure SRH 840 and KRK KNS 8400 (just to name a few) to all be better for about the same or less money at current street prices.  But some, especially those preferring bass heavy genres of music, prefer its "V" shaped EQ.  With the M50, I miss the mids, where things vocals and guitars live.  I'm not saying the M50 is bad.  I am saying that there are many better choices.


Edited by KG Jag - 2/22/14 at 11:57am
post #15 of 16
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Originally Posted by Garraty View Post

Not at all, AgentCw, I didn't mean that exactly. I mean to say that you'll get a lot more enjoyment of your music but the improvement won't be as HUGE as going from Apple earbuds to M50; as far as the headphones, I thought you had a $250 dollar budget? For the amp/DAC, I mean expensive combinations for expensive $500 phones that are simply fot hose who may afford it.

Hope this cleared things up!
Thanks mate for your help smily_headphones1.gif

Quote:
Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post

The DT 880 and SR 225i will both be upgrades, although the Grado may not be an upgrade for rap.

To my ears the M50 is the most overrated serious can (this does not inclued the Beats & related markets) for the last several or more years.  I hear the UE 6000, Shure SRH 840 and KRK KNS 8400 (just to name a few) to all be better for about the same or less money at current street prices.  But some, especially those preferring bass heavy genres of music, prefer its "V" shaped EQ.  With the M50, I miss the mids, where things vocals and guitars live.  I'm not saying the M50 is bad.  I am saying that there are many better choices.
Great! People have told me there is not much diffrence between the sr60 and the sr225, is that true?
And do you have more headphones that would be good to me other the ones that have been mentioned here before?

Edited by AgentCw - 2/22/14 at 12:24pm
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