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post #61 of 76

Mine arrived yesterday.. you guys weren't kidding, the case alone might be worth the entire $30 spent!  The quality is unbelievable!  It feels so nice that I'd almost be afraid to take it out and risk getting it dirty!  

 

The stock tips seem fine, I tried them on straight out of the box and it felt like I was getting a good seal, but I didn't try listening yet.  Burning in at home as we speak, will give impressions in a few days.  Gave it pink/brown for the 12 hours, and now it's getting treated to some bass for the next 12.  I'll switch it up again when I get home.

post #62 of 76

I like these, but they haven't blown me away. I'd say it's worth the price for what you get.

 

The case is the highlight, but the sound quality itself doesn't impress quite as much.

post #63 of 76
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post
 

I like these, but they haven't blown me away. I'd say it's worth the price for what you get.

 

The case is the highlight, but the sound quality itself doesn't impress quite as much.

 

Yes... If you're not a fan of the JVC FXxX sound signature, you will not find this appealing.

post #64 of 76
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These aren't the best sounding out of the box that is for certain.. Burn in tames the treble and better tips focusses the sound. Worth doing both to get these to sound correct.

post #65 of 76

How long do you recommend burn-in for the R1M?  I'm closing in on the 40-hour mark.

 

Does it matter which tuning cap is on it during the burn-in?  Do the caps need burn-in?

post #66 of 76
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Originally Posted by ebrian View Post
 

How long do you recommend burn-in for the R1M?  I'm closing in on the 40-hour mark.

 

Does it matter which tuning cap is on it during the burn-in?  Do the caps need burn-in?


Na just the drivers need to flex. I give them at least a week straight burn in so somewhere around 80-100hours or so.. Try out some UEtips if you guys own them.

post #67 of 76

After 60 hours of burn in the harshness of the treble is almost completely gone.  It was still there after 48 so I definitely recommend going longer than 2 days.

 

Have any of you guys tried using them without any screws? 

 

I'm listening to Lorde because there's so much bass in their music.  I guess I should try some non-bassy music and see how they sound.

post #68 of 76

After 80 hours of burn in I would say I think these are okay for the money but don't stand out. 

 

I'd much rather spend another $30 for Pistons 2.1 than another set of these.  As was mentioned, the case is probably the highlight.  As a basshead, when I read that the black screws were too bassy, I scoffed.  But it's true.. they're a bit too bassy even for me.  I'm using the grey ones.  The stock tips couldn't seal for me so I'm using VSonic VSD1 silicon tips.

 

What I find with these are that they aren't fast/quick hitting.  Bass is strong and boomy but not punchy, and it seems like the sub-bass was left behind.  I would have liked the sub to hit as hard as the regular bass. 

 

I will say that I like the soundstage on these.  I also like that they don't require a lot to drive.  Pistons/Grats on my Nexus 7 requires 100% volume.  These only need 60%. 
I think these are great for watching videos on my tablet.  For music I'd switch to something else.

post #69 of 76

Well I just got these today in my mailbox. I paid about 30e including shipping to France, with Head-fier discount. My last pair of IEMs were Etymotics ER4ps I used to own close to 6 years ago, so I won't be comparing the two reviewing these as it's been way too long since I've heard the Etys. I kept the Etys a couple of weeks before selling them and deciding that IEMs just weren't for me. These Narmoo just changed my mind. I will try to keep this short for now so that I may give them more time and have a more objective opinion of them.

 

I haven't done any tweaking and the stock tips fit me perfectly. For testing's sake, I am using them in my main desktop system, ~3000USD worth of gear (see my sig for details), so keep that in mind.

 

First things first. As other have pointed out, the case is really nice and the build construction is quite good. They come with 3 pairs of tips and 3 pairs of "bass screws" but as I said, the black screws are on right now and I haven't tried the others, same for the tips I believe the "medium" size are on by default, and I havent tried the "small" or "large" ones since these fit me well.

 

The cord comes with a mic and a clip so it can be attached to your clothes etc. What's noteworthy is the "wide and flat" profile of the cord which I personally quite like.

 

Now then, on to the important part: sound quality.

 

These are bassy. With the black screws, too bassy for my taste, a very boomy bass that takes away some of the sub bass (I'm thinking that will get better with different screws) but remains fairly punchy. I'm pretty sure I will prefer the silver screws. That being said, they render bass well even with the black screws. I'm a professional bassist and thus I listen to a lot of instrumental bass and love Pastorius recordings or Motown instrumentals, and the Narmoo do not disappoint. Keep in mind that this opinion is strictly as far as IEMs go, and that I haven't heard a great deal of IEMs, but I'm pleasantly surprised as I remember the Etys sounding way way too thin for my taste. These while sounding thin compared to headphones, still manage to do well.

 

The midrange is pretty good. Vocals are sweet and smooth, drums are accurate, violins sound warm and extend well (for IEMs).

 

The treble can be harsh on some recordings, but I don't find it lacking in detail too much. Wind instruments like trumpets don't sound too honky, although a little thin, but that's to be expected with IEMs anyway.

 

Soundstage is where they fall short. On a really high quality recording, they manage to do ok as the stereo is well mixed, but on older jazz recordings the soundstage is pretty much inexistent.

 

Dynamics are not bad. They hit well, with a slight lack of detail, but for an IEM I expected much worse.

 

Overall, I am quite happy with these. For the price, I really expected much much worse than what I got (sound quality wise). I will come back and edit things a little as I keep listening to them and start to mess with the different screws, but for a "right out of the box" review, I can say that I am completely sold. For 30 euros (or USD for you Americans), these IEMs offer a much better overall sound presentation than my old Etys that were thin, analytical and boring. These aren't as detailed or refined, but they do a good job rendering bass and have a fun factor that make them a better pick for my tastes.

 

Thumbs up Narmoo!


Edited by elmoe - 3/11/14 at 3:03am
post #70 of 76

Thanks for the review elmoe, it was interesting to read a different impression coming from a headphone guy. 

 

Did you do any burn-in?

 

 

 

post #71 of 76

Nope, when I wrote this review I had been listening for a couple of hours only. I'm now using the silver screws which suit me a lot more, bass is still present but not overly boomy and much more accurate, I think I will stick with these in the future. I'm sure as time passes everything will just get tighter sound-wise.

post #72 of 76

Has anyone besides myself and @Dsnuts done 80+ hours of burn-in on the Narmoo's?  

 

Granted I have but a small IEM collection but I am starting to really enjoy them over my other ones.  To contrast with Pistons 2.0, I think these are a brighter sounding basshead iem to the Piston's warm sound.  They're like Pistons 2.0 with a subwoofer, but with a bright sound signature. 

post #73 of 76

A few additional notes, as I've now been listening to these quite a lot.

 

The final verdict went for the silver screws and medium tips. Midrange is really what these IEMs do best, vocals are especially good, surprisingly so for IEMs in fact. I've been listening to Nina Simone with these a lot, and her voice really comes through well, sweet and smooth.

 

I've been leaving them on to break-in and the overall sound has tightened considerably, I am hoping they get even better as drums are still lacking in detail for my taste, but it's already much better than it was right out of the box.

 

I've also been using them straight out of my smartphone, the notoriously terrible (for music) Samsung Galaxy S2, and was pleasantly surprised to find out that compared to the Sony earbuds I usually use, the music sounded MUCH better with the Narmoo. They are very fun IEMs and that's saying a lot.

 

That's about it for my thoughts on these, in short, for the money, these are a complete steal. The more I handle them the more I realize that the build quality is fantastic, they are sturdy and look good. I'm surprised Narmoo can break even selling these for so cheap.

post #74 of 76
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Originally Posted by ebrian View Post
 

Has anyone besides myself and @Dsnuts done 80+ hours of burn-in on the Narmoo's?  

 

Granted I have but a small IEM collection but I am starting to really enjoy them over my other ones.  To contrast with Pistons 2.0, I think these are a brighter sounding basshead iem to the Piston's warm sound.  They're like Pistons 2.0 with a subwoofer, but with a bright sound signature. 

I've only got about 30 hours burn-in. I should do more, because the harsh treble was the first issue I noticed.

post #75 of 76
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I've only got about 30 hours burn-in. I should do more, because the harsh treble was the first issue I noticed.


Ya keep at it. I would do a solid 100 hours.

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