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post #1756 of 2270
😁M..out for delivery and will have it in the afternoon, will post impression at night😋
post #1757 of 2270
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post


Seperation also comes much down to your source. Something like my DX50 headphone out has IMO poor separation, well at least next to Colorfly C3 and Studio V units. For example, my Shure SHR940 sound so messy with DX50 straight from the headphone out, It's like looking through a keyhole covered with fog glass, they're a congested mess (but good at detail and resolution). However even something cheap as the Schitt Magni with a decent DAC they turn into completely different beasts. You'll only get out of an IEM what you put into it.   Ostry are pretty decent at separation though I don't hear them excelling as a focus point, but again, different courses for sources.

 

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Originally Posted by laon View Post




I agree with the vwinter's ostry sound assessment but I don't think the separation is that impressive, but maybe it's due to me having never auditioned higher end IEM, I dunno.

I probably wasn't clear, as I tend to use terms wholly once and then shorthand it. I was talking about stereo separation, not really image separation as a whole.

I think synergy with source rather than source itself would have more impact on something like image separation, since most reviews are of a relative nature.

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Originally Posted by ebrian View Post

This section up here has described the Ostrich Fugue State in technical terms.  Interesting to see what some would call an amazing feature also be considered a flaw by others.

Awesome review though!

Lol, thanks. Can't please all the people all the the time.

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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

Hi Vwinters , gyx11, 

thanks for the superb dissection....which genre would go well with the "arti perfection" ?
some studio generated music..? or vocaless big classicals?  ambient? 

Anything that doesn't require them to create an ambiance. Classicals in that sense work better than some soundtracks would. But really they do everything well. I'm a nitpicker against ideals since gear is generally really good these days.

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Originally Posted by mochill View Post

Did you guys burn in in for 100hrs😅

Actually, I've developed a track that reverses the effects of prior burn in. It was years in development. It can bring the components back to the state they were in before even assembly took place. A clean slate. That's how I do my impressions, reverse any possible burn in damage and then do critical listening.

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Originally Posted by gyx11 View Post


This is the review which I agree with the most, particularly the part which I have bolded. I would like to give 2 likes for your review based on those words, if only I could.  I tried to express this sentiment in my post weeks back, but you've put it in words better than I ever could biggrin.gif


I absolutely agree with the importance of finding the correct amp for the KC06. Because of its unique flaws (for a lack of a better phrase), finding an amp which can 'bridge' the chasm between the mids and its neighbouring frequencies is crucial in extracting maximum possible performance.


A point to note. The fact that the KC06 is being compared to the UERM and Heaven V Aging, both of which are manifold more expensive, and yet still come out with a favourable review really speaks volumes of how great it is for $60.


To sum up, if I could describe the KC06 succinctly, I would use the term 'artificial perfection'

Thanks.

Re: the comparisons
It was more a matter of most comparable signature. But they are well worth comparing to expensive gear.
post #1758 of 2270
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Originally Posted by laon View Post


Wait, is that pic from co-op.
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post


Seperation also comes much down to your source. Something like my DX50 headphone out has IMO poor separation, well at least next to Colorfly C3 and Studio V units. For example, my Shure SHR940 sound so messy with DX50 straight from the headphone out, It's like looking through a keyhole covered with fog glass, they're a congested mess (but good at detail and resolution). However even something cheap as the Schitt Magni with a decent DAC they turn into completely different beasts. You'll only get out of an IEM what you put into it.   Ostry are pretty decent at separation though I don't hear them excelling as a focus point, but again, different courses for sources.

 

Well maybe my source is not that good but by not impressive I mean that it's not even at the level of fullsize like DT880. It's probably quite good for IEM this size and price though again I can't really compare it to other IEM ATM.
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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post


I probably wasn't clear, as I tend to use terms wholly once and then shorthand it. I was talking about stereo separation, not really image separation as a whole.

You mean the disconnect between left and right channel? I sort of agree with you then but I always thought it's just my ear's problem. tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by UnityIsPower View Post

Wait, is that pic from co-op.

co-op?
post #1760 of 2270
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Originally Posted by laon View Post


Well maybe my source is not that good but by not impressive I mean that it's not even at the level of fullsize like DT880. It's probably quite good for IEM this size and price though again I can't really compare it to other IEM ATM.
 


Vwinter is right, synergy is also greatly important. synergy is the hidden secret behind good and great audio. You could have the best IEM in the world and it wouldn't mean diddles if the pairing isn't correct - (great). I guess the more one can mix and match the more obvious this becomes.  Why we hear good things about C3 / KC06. (from me, Wayne etc...) I have Sony H3 here with me atm and KC06 is no slouch to these ears, (no I didn't say KC06 is better) though really does punch on a high level, KC06. I also have some Rhapsodio RDB v3 and I know which one I'd be taking > (KC06). It appears my RDB Mini was a freak Frankenstein occurrence from Rhapsodio, because it punches high and was my alternative to 1Plus2 at the time. Again, with the correct source. 


Edited by H20Fidelity - 5/13/14 at 7:35am
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He did seem to suggest it would cost money, but I'd still be interested in learning more.

Yep. sorry, it got delayed a bit. need to take some final photos and done. and No, it's not a mod. 

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Originally Posted by laon View Post

co-op?
XD lol, that answers my question.

This:
http://revision3.com/coop/

Loved watching it!
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post


Vwinter is right, synergy is also greatly important. synergy is the hidden secret behind good and great audio. You could have the best IEM in the world and it wouldn't mean diddles if the pairing isn't correct - (great). I guess the more one can mix and match the more obvious this becomes.  Why we hear good things about C3 / KC06. (from me, Wayne etc...) I have Sony H3 here with me atm and KC06 is no slouch to these ears, (no I didn't say KC06 is better) though really does punch on a high level, KC06. I also have some Rhapsodio RDB v3 and I know which one I'd be taking > (KC06). It appears my RDB Mini was a freak Frankenstein occurrence from Rhapsodio, because it punches high and was my alternative to 1Plus2 at the time. Again, with the correct source. 

H3 highs are fantastic IMO. I think imaging and/or separation is better then the KC06. EX 1000 mids are fantastic. I need to find my lows frown.gif

Come on KC06A!...

ThA H3 mid bass tho.
post #1763 of 2270
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post


Vwinter is right, synergy is also greatly important. synergy is the hidden secret behind good and great audio. You could have the best IEM in the world and it wouldn't mean diddles if the pairing isn't correct - (great). I guess the more one can mix and match the more obvious this becomes.  Why we hear good things about C3 / KC06. (from me, Wayne etc...) I have Sony H3 here with me atm and KC06 is no slouch to these ears, (no I didn't say KC06 is better) though really does punch on a high level, KC06. I also have some Rhapsodio RDB v3 and I know which one I'd be taking > (KC06). It appears my RDB Mini was a freak Frankenstein occurrence from Rhapsodio, because it punches high and was my alternative to 1Plus2 at the time. Again, with the correct source. 

I understand about synergy, KC06 also sounds like sh*t on some source I tired (vocal too prominent, no width etc), but I really don't think they could match fullsize like DT880 with proper amp, which is the baseline where I found separation as impressive, no matter which source/amp I use. I could be wrong though, might found out in in two days when I try source like X5 and hopefully AK120/240.

@UnityIsPower
lol I dunno, I found that image on some gaming forum and thought that was funny. :P
post #1764 of 2270
^ Sony H3 is stronger technically, smoother with better refinement. Very addictive Sony's IEM imo , even though thier tonality often isn't my preference. I get suckered into that house sound every time..
post #1765 of 2270
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Originally Posted by UnityIsPower View Post

You win my life and I am forever indebted to you. When's our wedding?

We shall love each other for... "ever..."
overly-attached-girlfriend-knife.gif
..and ever, and ever....

The unity of us, will bring us power, for where there is unity, there is power.

Our wedding shall be whenever you want it to be. wink.gif
Let's have it on the..KC/06/2014.
post #1766 of 2270
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Originally Posted by UnityIsPower View Post

There are plenty of reason not to count my impression tho... surely, lolz.

Haha if I count your vote, it's 3 for tenore, 1 for KC06 :D

post #1767 of 2270
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Originally Posted by laon View Post

I understand about synergy, KC06 also sounds like sh*t on some source I tired (vocal too prominent, no width etc), but I really don't think they could match fullsize like DT880 with proper amp, which is the baseline where I found separation as impressive, no matter which source/amp I use. I could be wrong though, might found out in in two days when I try source like X5 and hopefully AK120/240.

@UnityIsPower
lol I dunno, I found that image on some gaming forum and thought that was funny. :P

Best to try a neutral source and hear the IEM for what it is? Don't murk me H20! Everyone has diferent sources I get it 😱

Also, you need to watch it, scratch that! Everyone that likes video games needs to watch it!
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Originally Posted by SkyBleu View Post

..and ever, and ever....

The unity of us, will bring us power, for where there is unity, there is power.

Our wedding shall be whenever you want it to be. wink.gif
Let's have it on the..KC/06/2014.

Is that a link cuz I'm afraid to click it, lol.

I am man, is still ok?
post #1768 of 2270
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post

Haha if I count your vote, it's 3 for tenore, 1 for KC06 biggrin.gif

Looking bleak for the birds 😕 Don't worry, the KC06 has a trick up its sleeve, or shall I say a evil twin 😈

Has James heard the Tenore? Anybody know?
post #1769 of 2270
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Originally Posted by UnityIsPower View Post

Looking bleak for the birds 😕 Don't worry, the KC06 has a trick up its sleeve, or shall I say a evil twin 😈

 

Yeah, but can you sleep while wearing the Tenores?

 

Case closed! :D

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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post
 

 

Yeah, but can you sleep while wearing the Tenores?

 

Case closed! :D

 

No you can't.  I've tried.. even though they're tiny little things, they still stick out a tiny bit and that's enough that if you happened to roll over on your side in the middle of night, it's going to hurt you real bad.  Real bad.

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