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REVIEW: Ostry KC06 - Page 110

post #1636 of 2535
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How do these compare to the ath-im50?

Thx

I would like to know this as well,  Anyone have both?

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Pulled out KC06 this afternoon, plugged into Colorfly C3 and the beauty remains! Absolute little legends!
post #1638 of 2535
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post

Pulled out KC06 this afternoon, plugged into Colorfly C3 and the beauty remains! Absolute little legends!

 

How about the ostry with the Studio V 3ANV? Does it sound better or just different but still good? I'm curious to buy the KC06 or the one with the "A". I'm still waiting for my Tingo though. Both are so much "hyped" here recently.  

post #1639 of 2535
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How about the ostry with the Studio V 3ANV? Does it sound better or just different but still good? I'm curious to buy the KC06 or the one with the "A". I'm still waiting for my Tingo though. Both are so much "hyped" here recently.  


KC06 still sounds good with Studio V, but I prefer Colorfly C3 for this IEM. 

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is the KC06 better than Dunu 1K? With the C3?

post #1641 of 2535
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is the KC06 better than Dunu 1K? With the C3?


In my opinion they're close when using C3, I used DN-1000 with C3 for quite a while and was happy. If you put both KC06 and Dunu in front of me I would take the Dunu, for the reasons of better isolation, fit and slightly more clairty, smoother mid-range. (I really like my hybrids) However, it's such a seesaw of preferences because KC06 sounds more natural and organic. Then when you put their prices between them  KC06 starts looking a lot more inviting, so I know which I'd choose on a budget. It's a tough question when someone asks me which is better for the reasons of preferences, their price points and different driver combinations.

 

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In my opinion they're close when using C3, I used DN-1000 with C3 for quite a while and was happy. If you put both KC06 and Dunu in front of me I would take the Dunu, for the reasons of better isolation, fit and slightly more clairty, smoother mid-range. (I really like my hybrids) However, it's such a seesaw of preferences because KC06 sounds more natural and organic. Then when you put their prices between them  KC06 starts looking a lot more inviting, so I know which I'd choose on a budget. It's a tough question when someone asks me which is better for the reasons of preferences, their price points and different driver combinations.

 

I am tempted to ask to satisfy my curiousitly....so pardon my naivety...

 

how much of a difference in sound and performance happens when you go up the food chain to something like

 

your tralucent earbuds from the kc06 or similar price range?

post #1643 of 2535
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Originally Posted by peareye View Post
 

I am tempted to ask to satisfy my curiousitly....so pardon my naivety...

 

how much of a difference in sound and performance happens when you go up the food chain to something like

 

your tralucent earbuds from the kc06 or similar price range?


Not as much as one would think considering price differences, but certainly highly noticeable. Before I heard any TOTL product I had many thoughts of just "how" amazing it could it be, I had no concept of how much 'further' a TOTL product could excel from say something like GR07 or TF10. Was I going to be amazed? Was it going to totally blow my mind? Well, it did and it didn't. The improvements are definitely there especially in the detailing and clarity, but most importantly the price of diminishing returns is also highly noticeable. So the $1000 product might not sound to someones expectations and really could equate to only a $500 product instead (what you would be willing to pay or the products true value)

The problem with many high end IEM's is you're paying for the research and development, so while a product might cost $1500 much of that is going back to the company and not representing an IEM's total value, especially in a niche world where our hobby is tiny compared to the masses.

There's a chart here I show people when they ask this question and it's very much true to some degree. 





But it is also relative to each companies tuning and performance, I have heard $1400 1Plus2 which blew me away.

I have also heard  $1700 Lear BD4.2 and didn't like it at all. So just like a $200 - $300 bracket, performance and value for money varies with each company

Most expensive does not mean better in audio. No way at all IMO. 
 

post #1644 of 2535

I screwed up big time today.  When I arrived at the train station this morning, I realized I had left my KC06 on my desk at home.  What a bummer.  Searching through my bag yielded another IEM -- Zero Audio Carbo Tenore.  I remembered that I had promised to write a comparison of the two so here goes:

 

Tips: I'm listening to the Tenores with stock tips.  I have already tried tiprolling with all the other tips I own including Sony Hybrids and all tips that came with my collection of IEMs as you can see in my sig.  Stocks sounded the best to me.  For KC06 I was using Sony Hybrid (green).

 

Full comparison:

 

Soundstage: Tenore really shines in this department.  I don't have a massive collection like some, but in terms of soundstage the Tenore beats everything I have.  It's almost like a headphone.  There are several posts already in this thread regarding the depth vs height of KC06 soundstage so I'll defer to them.  Tenore has a 3D soundstage.

 

Bass:  Tenore has a thump to its bass.  To put into words, Tenore's bass makes a "dung-dung-dung" sound, whereas the KC06 is more like "Ohm-ohm-ohm".  However I think KC06 overall has a better overall sounding bass. Tenore bass needs to be tightened, whether that can come via better tips I don't know, but it seems to bleed into the mids/highs and cause them to sound thinner than they should.  

 

With Tenores, it's like you're in the studio with the band but there is a subwoofer speaker between you and the band.  With KC06, the subwoofer is in there with the band.  You can go over and sit next to the subwoofer if you want (EQ), but you can also move away from it and with Tenores you can't do that.  It's tied between your legs and you're stuck with it (unless you're a pure basshead, in which case you are holding it in your arms).

 

Isolation: The isolation for the Tenore is better than KC06.  I see a hole on the Tenore but that doesn't seem to affect the isolation in the way that the two vents on the KC06 does.  On the train to/from work I've been sitting in the "Quiet Zone" with KC06.  With Tenore I can sit anywhere.

 

Fit/comfort: I find that the KC06 fit better with my ears, I can wear them wire up or down, and they are flush with the ear so you can go to sleep in them, or earmuffs or a hat if it's cold out.  Despite Tenore's tiny size, they do protrude slightly outwards so I cannot go to sleep with them without the risk of rolling to my side and injuring my ears.  Also, as the bore on the Tenore is of the smaller side, it tends to go deeper into the ear unless you have some massive tips (I don't).  I guess that comes down to preference but I thought I'd mention it.  KC06 has a wider bore.

 

Mids/Highs: As we all know by now, this is where KC06 shines and it just completely blows Tenore out of the water.  It's like night and day.  Again tips come to mind because I've read some glowing reviews about Tenore, but this is from my point of view.  The only time the mids/highs really shine comes through on the Tenore is if there's no bass playing at the same time.  I will say though that the clarity is quite nice on the Tenore if there's no bass there to choke it out.  So I imagine that adult contemporary shines while pop maybe not so great.

 

In laymen's terms I would describe KC06 vocals as crystal clear, whereas with Tenore sometimes it sounds like the singer is holding back a bit as if he/she has to go pee.

 

Timbre/imaging: I think the KC06 trumps this department as well.  As has been mentioned, while using KC06 you can fall into a dream/trance where you become one with the music.  I'm going to trademark this state as the "Ostrich Fugue State".  When you enter OFS, you are able to move from one audio source to another and pinpoint every little nuance coming off of it.. whether it is the pick hitting the strings on a guitar, or the tiny hint of phlegm/raspiness of a singer, to the slight click sound of two drumsticks accidentally hitting eachother in the midst of a huge drum solo.  I don't get that with Tenore at all.

 

Quick answer: Buy the Ostry KC06.

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"Ostrich Fugue State".

 

 

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Awesome write up! You've kinda saved me from pulling the trigger on the Tenore, as the mids and highs are my favorite part of the Ostry.

post #1646 of 2535
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Originally Posted by ebrian View Post
 

I screwed up big time today.  When I arrived at the train station this morning, I realized I had left my KC06 on my desk at home.  What a bummer.  Searching through my bag yielded another IEM -- Zero Audio Carbo Tenore.  I remembered that I had promised to write a comparison of the two so here goes:

 

Tips: I'm listening to the Tenores with stock tips.  I have already tried tiprolling with all the other tips I own including Sony Hybrids and all tips that came with my collection of IEMs as you can see in my sig.  Stocks sounded the best to me.  For KC06 I was using Sony Hybrid (green).

 

Full comparison:

 

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Quick answer: Buy the Ostry KC06.

Great Post! :beerchug:

post #1647 of 2535
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Awesome write up! You've kinda saved me from pulling the trigger on the Tenore, as the mids and highs are my favorite part of the Ostry.

Lol, I completely disagree with that comparison. Such is head-fi.
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Lol, I completely disagree with that comparison. Such is head-fi.

 

Aaaand my finger starts hovering over the order button again...

post #1649 of 2535
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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

Lol, I completely disagree with that comparison. Such is head-fi.

Just from the KC06 side, I'd agree here. Just about everything mentioned as the best part are what i think are the KC06's biggest weaknesses, in the end.

Impressions to come relatively shortly.

Disagreement aside, I like the review smile.gif
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Aaaand my finger starts hovering over the order button again...

Lol, yea I need to order me a set and see.
post #1650 of 2535

Regarding Tenore, I found that Sony Hybrid Tips had less soundstage, sounded less airy and had less 3D effect than Meelectronics double flange.  They had more bass quantity but not as tight.  Mids were worse (vocals were also more recessed), and highs were less extended.

 
When I listen to Take a Bow by Rihanna (Good Girl Gone Bad: Reloaded) on rdio.com, it sounds magical on Meelectronics but loses its magic on Sony Hybrid.

 

If you want to hear the magic of the Tenore, I think you need to try Meelectronics double flange that Lifted Andreas originally recommended.  Shotgunshane is also highly recommending Comply S200, but I don't think anyone else has tried it.


Edited by Grayson73 - 5/8/14 at 8:08am
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