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Need help choosing between Audeze LCD3 or LCD-X, to compliment my Sennheiser HD700

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 

Dear all,

 

2013 was the year I invested most in UIEMs, and, ended up upgrading to the Shure SE846 (love them!!!).

 

Now, I am looking to upgrade my full size headphones (open-end); and, after doing some research. My final shortlist is between the Audeze LCD3 and LCD-X. Unfortunately, I live in a country where I am not able to test either one of the afore mentioned.

 

Thus, would appreciate your help in deciding, which of the 2 Audeze pairs will complement most with my Sennheiser HD700, preferably with a concise justification?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Cheers

Simon T

 

Ps. I will have time to decide until end of February (2 weeks), before my colleague flies to the United States.

post #2 of 22
What kind of music? What kind of source/Amp?
post #3 of 22
Ps. It may be difficult to walk into a store and find audeze cans even in the US....
post #4 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by GloryUprising View Post

What kind of music? What kind of source/Amp?

 

Sources/Amps:

Portable - Sony NW ZX1 or AK 100 (Mostly FLAC 24 bit music files) > Sony PHA-2 > ....

Desk - Laptop (FLAC 24 bit music files, DSD, SACD or normal CDs) > Sony UDA-1 > ...

 

*I am a Sony fan boy :-P... my desk set up also includes the Sony SS HA3 speakers.    

 

Music Genre collection:

30% - Rock - when I listen to the drums, I prefer it to be punchy

20% - Classical - love details with great, clear and airy soundstage

15% - R&B/POP

10% - Dance/Electronic

10% - Jazz

15% - Other genres, including World Music, Latino, Soundtracks etc.

 

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Originally Posted by GloryUprising View Post

Ps. It may be difficult to walk into a store and find audeze cans even in the US....

 

Thanks for the heads up GloryUprising. I was planning to order it online from Moon Audio, is there anywhere else I should buy it from (online)?

 

Cheers

Simon T

post #5 of 22
Among those two, I definitely recommend the LCD-3 over the LCD-X. The LCD-3 has the best bass of all headphones I've currently heard (not overwhelming, don't get me wrong). The soundstage is also bigger than the LCD-X.
post #6 of 22
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Originally Posted by Slashfury99 View Post

Among those two, I definitely recommend the LCD-3 over the LCD-X. The LCD-3 has the best bass of all headphones I've currently heard (not overwhelming, don't get me wrong). The soundstage is also bigger than the LCD-X.

 

Thank you Slashfurry99, during my research I found a comparison at: http://headmania.org/2013/11/08/audeze-lcd-x-review/ 

 

After reading the article, I was more inclined to the LCD-X.

 

However, even though I know that either one of them is a definite upgrade to my HD700. I would prefer a pair of planar magnetic headphones with a sound signature that substantially differs from the HD700 (yet compliments the HD700 sound signature to any extent), and, suitable with the various music genres I listen.

 

Nevertheless thank you. LCD-3: 1 vote vs. LCD-X: 0 vote

 

Looking forward to receive other feedbacks.    

post #7 of 22
No problem. Hope you'll find one that suits you best!
post #8 of 22

Not being familiar with your set up, I'm gonna go ahead an assume they are all good enough to run the LCD-3s.

 

I found the LCD-X to be very clean and clear and very technically accurate but in comparison to the LCD-3s, they seem to loose a little bit of body and bass impact.

 

Since you already have the HD700 that is stellar in imaging and other technical aspects of music, I think the LDC-3 would be a better complement.

 

If you didn't have the HD700, I would probably say the LCD-X would have been a more appropriate choice for the reasons listed.

post #9 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by GloryUprising View Post
 

Not being familiar with your set up, I'm gonna go ahead an assume they are all good enough to run the LCD-3s.

 

I found the LCD-X to be very clean and clear and very technically accurate but in comparison to the LCD-3s, they seem to loose a little bit of body and bass impact.

 

Since you already have the HD700 that is stellar in imaging and other technical aspects of music, I think the LDC-3 would be a better complement.

 

If you didn't have the HD700, I would probably say the LCD-X would have been a more appropriate choice for the reasons listed.

 

That is the sort of rationale I wanted to hear. Thanks a lot GloryUprising.

 

By the way, my desk set up is not optimized (decent but not great) for a headphone of the LCD-3 caliber. If you had a choice to upgrade the LCD-3 cable to Moon Audio Silver Dragon V3 Premium Audeze (USD445) or a good combo DAC/Amp (roughly the same price); what will you do? Any suggestions on a good matching Amp?

 

Thanks again for your time in helping me out

 

Update: LCD-3: 2 votes vs. LCD-X: 0 vote

post #10 of 22

LCD-3 is actually not to hard to drive.

 

DAC/Amp Combo is tough esp all the price range you are thinking (~$450, ~$2500 total for cans and amp/dac)

 

At that budget maybe consider dropping to the LCD2 and get a Violectric V200 which would leave you around $500 for a decent dac?

 

Not knowing where your priorities lie in terms of music listing, you may like the LCD2, but when I had it, I kept looking for more. More treble extension, more mid range, cleaner bass and in all aspects, I much preferred the LCD3,  I was of the minority that was not overly impressed by the LCD2, and thought I may have been a thru and thru Sennheiser guy; if my wife told me I could only keep ONE headphone, I would take my HD650s above all.

 

My recommendation, would be to spring for the LCD-3 see if you think it sounds good enough, it's much easier to unload a headphone then a amp/dac.  I think your UDA-1 may be better then you tihnk.  Worse case, you keep it as a DAC and add an amp; I'd still recommend the v200 for this purpose.

 

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Originally Posted by Simon T View Post

 

Thanks for the heads up GloryUprising. I was planning to order it online from Moon Audio, is there anywhere else I should buy it from (online)?

 

Cheers

Simon T

 

If you're visiting the East Coast, Drew at Moon Audio is a good source (I am, however, partial to Justin @ headamp as a local Virginian).

 

If you're visiting the West Coast, talk to Todd at TTVJ.


Edited by GloryUprising - 2/17/14 at 9:26pm
post #11 of 22
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryUprising View Post
 

If you're visiting the East Coast, Drew at Moon Audio is a good source (I am, however, partial to Justin @ headamp as a local Virginian).

 

If you're visiting the West Coast, talk to Todd at TTVJ.

 

Unfortunately, I will not be able to test them, as I am not going to the States. My plan is to buy it online and send it to my colleague home in the U.S., so that he could bring it back to me after his annual leave.

 

Nevertheless, Drew from Moon Audio was very helpful and he gave me his opinion, he also recommended me the LCD-3.

 

As of today, together with another anonymous headphones reviewer (he listened to the HD700, LCD-3 and LCD-X) response. The score is:

 

LCD-3: 4 votes vs. LCD-X: 0 vote

 

Cheers

Simon T

 

P.s. I kinda have the feeling that I am going to purchase the LCD-3, from the response trend here :-)

post #12 of 22
Thread Starter 
Quote:

If you're visiting the East Coast, Drew at Moon Audio is a good source (I am, however, partial to Justin @ headamp as a local Virginian).

 

If you're visiting the West Coast, talk to Todd at TTVJ.

 

Hi guys,

 

You know what?... I made up my mind in buying the LCD-3. But unfortunately, all the dealers I have contacted, have the LCD-3 back-ordered until mid-March, which is a little too late as my friend is flying out on March 13.

 

If you know a respectable dealer in the States, who currently has the LCD-3 in stock. Can you please let me know?

 

Thanks

 

Cheers

Simon T.

post #13 of 22
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If you're visiting the East Coast, Drew at Moon Audio is a good source (I am, however, partial to Justin @ headamp as a local Virginian).



If you're visiting the West Coast, talk to Todd at TTVJ.

Hi guys,

You know what?... I made up my mind in buying the LCD-3. But unfortunately, all the dealers I have contacted, have the LCD-3 back-ordered until mid-March, which is a little too late as my friend is flying out on March 13.

If you know a respectable dealer in the States, who currently has the LCD-3 in stock. Can you please let me know?

Thanks

Cheers
Simon T.
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Who have you tried?

Have you hit up Justin? Www.headamp.com
post #14 of 22
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Who have you tried?

Have you hit up Justin? Www.headamp.com

 

1. Moon Audio

2. HeadRoom

3. Sent an email to Audeze.com asking them for their support, but no response from them yet

 

Yes, I sent him an email, I hope he will reply me tomorrow morning.

 

Thanks

post #15 of 22

http://www.headamp.com/order/index.htm

 

Looks like it's in stock.

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