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post #16 of 55
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Originally Posted by zazex View Post
 

I've heard from pretty reliable sources that they're not available

on the Continent, but not sure about the U.K.  In fact, there are reports

of high profile U.K. musicians e.g. David Gilmour & studios e.g. Abbey Road

buying them 

 

 

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This US retailer is selling the Sony's for only $385, which should be less than £300 landed, including shipping and import tax.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sony-MDR-7520-Professional-Studio-Headphones-MDR7520-/190531597579?pt=US_Computer_Headsets&hash=item2c5c91750b

 

 

 

The only place I noticed the Sony's still for sale in the whole of the EU (including UK) was a couple of places in Poland for £350 ish.  

Yeah they are marked as discontinued on the Sony UK website. They are fairly expensive and I have a pair of IEM's on order as well so the yamahas are sounding very appealing! But I will read up on the Sonys a bit more.


Edited by Scotshner - 2/17/14 at 10:56am
post #17 of 55
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

after burn in the yams sound better but cost 250usd. You may find them cheaper(yamaha hph mt220 not 120). Yes they move more air than the k545 easily. The k545 bass whimpers next to it. but only because of the impact not because it is a basshead hp.

I read the thread on these and it has me really interested. There is not a whole lot on the net about them. Listening to the HP50 and the 545 last night I definitely notice the 545 sounding slightly hollow in the mids when side by side, the HP50 is much fuller but just lacks the treble extension, detail and bass slam. The yamaha could be the gap! I send the hp50 back today and once refunded I will order the yams.

The price where I am is a real issue too:

Nad = $400

545 = $320

MT220 = $190

that's a huge difference.....................

Cheers for the suggestion!

post #18 of 55

no prob

note:air in the bass not overall air.


Edited by grizzlybeast - 2/18/14 at 8:27pm
post #19 of 55

I'm haveing a really tough time decision. Both sound great. I love the HP50's midrange and miss it when I have the K545's on. When I have on the HP's I miss the airy treble of the 545's. Bass is different, but I don't prefer one over the other. The HP's have a bit more punch which is nice, but the 545's extend lower.

 

I think the deciding factor is going to be price. The 545's are $100 less. This is amazing to me because I read in the HP thread how people are amazed at their price to performance of them. Yeah, they have that, but it isn't even close to the bargain the 545's are.

 

I think I'm going to keep the 545's and try the HM5' pads on them to improve the comfort and isolation. If that improves like some have said, they are a true keeper.

 

But, my interest is sparked now by the Yamaha 220's.

 

edit: just noticed the Yams have a non removable coiled cable. Not good, but not a deal breaker.


Edited by Painful Chafe - 2/18/14 at 8:28pm
post #20 of 55
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I think I'm going to keep the 545's and try the HM5' pads on them to improve the comfort and isolation. If that improves like some have said, they are a true keeper.

 

I have HM5' pads and comfort is improved, possibly isolation to, but i have not tested that. The pads is oval and you can rotate it to fit the angel of your outer ears.

post #21 of 55
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Originally Posted by Painful Chafe View Post
 

I'm haveing a really tough time decision. Both sound great. I love the HP50's midrange and miss it when I have the K545's on. When I have on the HP's I miss the airy treble of the 545's. Bass is different, but I don't prefer one over the other. The HP's have a bit more punch which is nice, but the 545's extend lower.

 

I think the deciding factor is going to be price. The 545's are $100 less. This is amazing to me because I read in the HP thread how people are amazed at their price to performance of them. Yeah, they have that, but it isn't even close to the bargain the 545's are.

 

I think I'm going to keep the 545's and try the HM5' pads on them to improve the comfort and isolation. If that improves like some have said, they are a true keeper.

 

But, my interest is sparked now by the Yamaha 220's.

 

edit: just noticed the Yams have a non removable coiled cable. Not good, but not a deal breaker.

The thing is that now you cant go wrong with any of them out there now. The pro is killer I am loving it. the yamaha is great as well. I had the k545 and it was another great headphone but sounds a lot different than the yamaha and pro. 

 

The NADS are 299 and the k545 is 250 as well as the yamaha. So they are all similar in bargain unless you find a deal. After hearing the pro I am super curious about the NAD now. Specially how tyll praises them as well as the pro.

 

The k545 is great, albeit a bit too reserved/restrained for me. But if you had to pay for hm5 pads then that takes away the bargain right there. The pros and yamahas may be a bit too forward for long listening but they sound a lot more raw and transparent. If the NAD has the same balace as the pro like tyll says then the yamaha is the middle gound between them in the midrange because it has more lower mids than the k545 but less than the pro/NAD.

post #22 of 55
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The pros and yamahas may be a bit too forward for long listening but they sound a lot more raw and transparent. If the NAD has the same balace as the pro like tyll says then the yamaha is the middle gound between them in the midrange because it has more lower mids than the k545 but less than the pro/NAD.
When you say forward do you feel the treble is harsh/brittle at all on the yams?
post #23 of 55
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I think I'm going to keep the 545's and try the HM5' pads on them to improve the comfort and isolation. If that improves like some have said, they are a true keeper.

But, my interest is sparked now by the Yamaha 220's.

edit: just noticed the Yams have a non removable coiled cable. Not good, but not a deal breaker.
This would be a good option for me too. After a week the left driver is pressing on my ear. Doesn't happen on the right when I swap them round?
post #24 of 55
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When you say forward do you feel the treble is harsh/brittle at all on the yams?

no not really it isnt that. the overall sound is forward and revealing on both. let me find a quote that can explain it better:

 

"The Spirit Professional is not a forgiving headphone, and may be perceived as a bit fatiguing over time. Many audiophile listeners will prefer the relaxed and impeccably even response of the Spirit Classic."

 

well the same statement above could be said for the yamaha. I need to study the yamaha and pro pretty hard to hear differences in treble they are similar. Some say the yamaha is boosted and above neutral and I agree. But compared to the neutral flagships it is described as having less treble emphasis (but a lot of those flagships have a lot of treble). It has less treble emphasis than the k545. both the pro and the yamaha do.

 

the coolest thing about the yamaha is the realistic soundstage and how good it is in size along with the near perfect tones of instruments and tuning of they yamaha. 

post #25 of 55
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no not really it isnt that. the overall sound is forward and revealing on both. let me find a quote that can explain it better:

 

"The Spirit Professional is not a forgiving headphone, and may be perceived as a bit fatiguing over time. Many audiophile listeners will prefer the relaxed and impeccably even response of the Spirit Classic."

 

well the same statement above could be said for the yamaha. I need to study the yamaha and pro pretty hard to hear differences in treble they are similar. Some say the yamaha is boosted and above neutral and I agree. But compared to the neutral flagships it is described as having less treble emphasis (but a lot of those flagships have a lot of treble). It has less treble emphasis than the k545. both the pro and the yamaha do.

 

the coolest thing about the yamaha is the realistic soundstage and how good it is in size along with the near perfect tones of instruments and tuning of they yamaha. 

Thanks, 'overall sound is forward' sounds pretty in your face....and I'm even more intrigued now! I enjoy hearing all the details....good or bad. It's good to appreciate quality engineering and production. Slightly less treble, more mids and at least an equal bass to the 545 sounds like what I would like to hear. Refund authorised, when it hits my account I'm going to order a pair.

post #26 of 55

^awesome

post #27 of 55
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^awesome

So, after trying the HP50 I was all set for settling with the 545 but you casually mention the MT220 and it sounds very appealing. Just when I was going to try a pair you again casually mention the Pandora. So, I started investigating this headphone too as it is very unique. Now I have a sweet upgrade/replacement on a Westone IEM and going for the UM3. This will give me the raw, upfront and detailed sound and should be neutral enough with a touch extra bass. My UM2 had very tight/quality/defined bass....maybe lacking in the sub region (can't rightly remember it's been a while) so the 3 drivers & crossovers I'm looking forward to hearing!

 

Now I'm looking for a can to compliment that so thinking I'll need to do a bit more reading but got some room to play about.

 

I was really impressed with the pics of those FAD cans and done a bit of reading on them (not much out there) the BA & dynamic is very interesting. They are on Amazon UK for £285 ($475) just a few quid more than the HP50. That is way cheaper than anywhere else.....does that seem strange??? At that price I was contemplating a test drive.
 
Your suggestions/opinions etc have been a huge help man...many cheers!
post #28 of 55
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Originally Posted by Scotshner View Post
 

So, after trying the HP50 I was all set for settling with the 545 but you casually mention the MT220 and it sounds very appealing. Just when I was going to try a pair you again casually mention the Pandora. So, I started investigating this headphone too as it is very unique. Now I have a sweet upgrade/replacement on a Westone IEM and going for the UM3. This will give me the raw, upfront and detailed sound and should be neutral enough with a touch extra bass. My UM2 had very tight/quality/defined bass....maybe lacking in the sub region (can't rightly remember it's been a while) so the 3 drivers & crossovers I'm looking forward to hearing!

 

Now I'm looking for a can to compliment that so thinking I'll need to do a bit more reading but got some room to play about.

 

I was really impressed with the pics of those FAD cans and done a bit of reading on them (not much out there) the BA & dynamic is very interesting. They are on Amazon UK for £285 ($475) just a few quid more than the HP50. That is way cheaper than anywhere else.....does that seem strange??? At that price I was contemplating a test drive.
 
Your suggestions/opinions etc have been a huge help man...many cheers!

no prob

I love/hate amazon because they dont take paypal and you can miss a deal by the time you transfer your money. But at that price I would jump on it and skip the rest. From talking with a buddy they will have the same treble of the pro or hp50, more bass than the yamaha, and better mids than all of them but with an upper mid emphasis. Not perfectly balanced but very detailed and intimate sounding. 

post #29 of 55
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no prob
I love/hate amazon because they dont take paypal and you can miss a deal by the time you transfer your money. But at that price I would jump on it and skip the rest. From talking with a buddy they will have the same treble of the pro or hp50, more bass than the yamaha, and better mids than all of them but with an upper mid emphasis. Not perfectly balanced but very detailed and intimate sounding. 
It sounds like an aural treat! I pulled the trigger while they were still shipping next week. Yeah Amazon is a bit of a devils advocate. They already charged my accnt but won't ship till the 27th.....pay now, receive later......aye cheers!
I hope they have the detail the hp50 didn't and bass that could be described as a 'sonic boom'
post #30 of 55

so you are getting the pandora?!?! I am now officially jealous. since that was on backorder at amazon I think you will have to wait a bit. Also the weight of the headphones people complain about here but people complain A LOT about comfort here and way too much. 

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