or Connect
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Meets, Get-Togethers, Factory Tours › Local / Regional Head-Fi Meets, Parties, Get-Togethers › Local meeting in Paris, March the 15th, initiated by HCFR : hifi and home theater French speaking association
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Local meeting in Paris, March the 15th, initiated by HCFR : hifi and home theater French speaking association

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Hi there,

HCFR : Home Cinema France is organizing in Paris on March the 15th a meet dedicated to headphones, and headphones only.

Details on the event are not known at the moment, only the date.
You should follow this thread on HCFR forums or contact me directly by PM if you don't understand French language and would like me to connect you with the organization team.

cool.gif
post #2 of 14

Bumpy bump !!

 

Audio Garden has replied, I've told them to contact HCFR's staff !

post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 
Well done wink.gif
post #4 of 14

Really pity that Pierre (which will come to the meeting organized by HCFR, Son-Video.com and Alter-Audio, with, not nothing, that his own showroom to show electronic + headphone Rudistor, JPS-Abyss headphone with the Audiovalve RKV mk3 amp, and the Stax SR-009 headphone with the SRM 727 and  the SRM 007t2 amp), no longer has in its possession the mythical Stax amplifier SRM T2 (*).

(*) http://www.homecinema-fr.com/forum/post177810847.html#p177810847


Really pity, that Pierre no longer has in its possession (or does not have) the Wee box transformed for an direct use of the SR-009 on the RKV amp (in mode pure OTL) (without impedancer and bypassing the multiplier voltage transformers (1:50) of the Wee). http://www.head-fi.org/t/569024/question-about-amps-for-the-stax-sr-009/660#post_10302924


This is his choice, but for me, it is clear,  it uses no (more) (voluntarily ?) the SR-009 headphone with what there are better and more musical.

Really pity. :(

 

Eric


Edited by eric65 - 2/26/14 at 1:09am
post #5 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by eric65 View Post
 

Really pity that Pierre (which will come to the meeting organized by HCFR, Son-Video.com and Alter-Audio, with, not nothing, that his own showroom to show electronic + headphone Rudistor, JPS-Abyss headphone with the Audiovalve RKV mk3 amp, and the Stax SR-009 headphone with the SRM 727 and  the SRM 007t2 amp), no longer has in its possession the mythical Stax amplifier SRM T2 (*).

(*) http://www.homecinema-fr.com/forum/post177810847.html#p177810847


Really pity, that Pierre no longer has in its possession (or does not have) the Wee box transformed for an direct use of the SR-009 on the RKV amp (in mode pure OTL) (without impedancer and bypassing the multiplier voltage transformers (1:50) of the Wee). http://www.head-fi.org/t/569024/question-about-amps-for-the-stax-sr-009/660#post_10302924


This is his choice, but for me, it is clear,  it uses no (more) (voluntarily ?) the SR-009 headphone with what there are better and more musical.

Really pity. :(

 

Eric

I understand, but who cares?

 

He's an authorized dealer, he will show what he can potentialy sell.

 

I don't like the way he handles his business, he knows it, but it's his own.

post #6 of 14
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by customcoco View Post

I understand, but who cares?

He's an authorized dealer, he will show what he can potentialy sell.

I don't like the way he handles his business, he knows it, but it's his own.

Pierre is a nice person anyways, I will surely drop by to see him on his stand on the 15th.
I really think his room will complement the HCFR show with other cans and amps.
Then participants will benefit from this diversity, not the other way round.
post #7 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by dgilz View Post


Pierre is a nice person anyways, I will surely drop by to see him on his stand on the 15th.
I really think his room will complement the HCFR show with other cans and amps.
Then participants will benefit from this diversity, not the other way round.

 

Pierre is certainly very nice, but enough commercially oriented to products it distributes, it is normal as a reseller, but the mixture of the kind with forums for discussion between enthusiasts (HCFR in particular) can sometimes lead to discomfort or a misunderstanding...The discussion is biased.

post #8 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by dgilz View Post


Pierre is a nice person anyways, I will surely drop by to see him on his stand on the 15th.
I really think his room will complement the HCFR show with other cans and amps.
Then participants will benefit from this diversity, not the other way round.

 

He probably is, and many people seem to be happy with the business they've done with him. He must be doing something right.

 

This is not an enthusiast-based meeting (hence the "imposed" playlist thing which is absolutely ridiculous).

 

You can't say that the guys who'll bring the gear won't do it for commercial reasons. It's not that I have anything against that kind of behavior, though, since the community directly benefits from it.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by eric65 View Post
 

 

Pierre is certainly very nice, but enough commercially oriented to products it distributes, it is normal as a reseller, but the mixture of the kind with forums for discussion between enthusiasts (HCFR in particular) can sometimes lead to discomfort or a misunderstanding...The discussion is biased.


That's where it starts to smell fishy.

 

With that said, and even though I've had some conflicts with him in the past, it's been said and done.

 

He's done something pretty obnoxious to me, which I won't forget nor forgive, but it's time to move on.

post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eric65 View Post

Pierre is certainly very nice, but enough commercially oriented to products it distributes, it is normal as a reseller, but the mixture of the kind with forums for discussion between enthusiasts (HCFR in particular) can sometimes lead to discomfort or a misunderstanding...The discussion is biased.

I belong to the organisation team, and from what i've read from other members of the team, and Pierre himself, the choice to organise a demo in another room at the same location comes from too much noise in the main rooms.
In addition, the show is not exclusively set up by enthusiasts, but mainly sponsored by a well-known online shop. So calling the HCFR meeting an enthusiasts meeting is a bit too far fetched.

At the beginning, our idea was to bring our own cans and amps, and sources, and all the stuff needed for a meeting. We had already tried to do so in Luxembourg last fall.
But for insurance and civil responsibility questions we had to move to a more official and reseller centered event.
post #10 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by dgilz View Post



But for insurance and civil responsibility questions we had to move to a more official and reseller centered event.

Did something bad happen at the Lux meet?

 

The mighty Can-Jam in the U.S. seems to turn out well everytime, at least from where I'm standing.

post #11 of 14
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by customcoco View Post

Did something bad happen at the Lux meet?

The mighty Can-Jam in the U.S. seems to turn out well everytime, at least from where I'm standing.

Nothing bad happened in Lux, but uncertainties answering important questions related to the resposibility of the organizers were raised and unaswered, like what will happen if some of the belongings (headphones, amplifier, source, ...) of a member of the association is somehow damaged during the event : who will pay ?
post #12 of 14

On 15 March, during the inevitable comparison of the Stax 009 with the Abyss, on  the stand of Pierre, we should well be aware that the 009 will not used with what it is best as an amplifier (NB : the 727 is good, without more ; sufficiently powerful and fine to operate very properly a Stax Lambda headphone but without being realy exceptional; there are significantly better as amplifier for an 009 significantly more demanding than a Stax Lambda (for example : BHSE, T2, RKV amp in direct mode OTL, Demograf ...) ; on the other hand the Abyss will be used with one of the best possible amplifiers (the Audiovalve RKV MK3 amp).
 

post #13 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by eric65 View Post
 

On 15 March, during the inevitable comparison of the Stax 009 with the Abyss, on  the stand of Pierre, we should well be aware that the 009 will not used with what it is best as an amplifier (NB : the 727 is good, without more ; sufficiently powerful and fine to operate very properly a Stax Lambda headphone but without being realy exceptional; there are significantly better as amplifier for an 009 significantly more demanding than a Stax Lambda (for example : BHSE, T2, RKV amp in direct mode OTL, Demograf ...) ; on the other hand the Abyss will be used with one of the best possible amplifiers (the Audiovalve RKV MK3 amp).
 

Sure, but it would be like comparing apples to oranges.

 

Stats are stats, and the people there will be able to draw their own conclusions either way.

 

The guys who don't like the Abyss won't like it with a better amp either.

 

Besides, while the 009's pretty revealing indeed I don't think that its character changes that much with amps upgrades, unlike the 007.

 

100 octane fuel won't make a twingo faster than a Ferrari f12 (no offense to anyone).


Edited by customcoco - 2/27/14 at 8:23am
post #14 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by customcoco View Post
 

Sure, but it would be like comparing apples to oranges.

 

Stats are stats, and the people there will be able to draw their own conclusions either way.

 

The guys who don't like the Abyss won't like it with a better amp either.

 

Besides, while the 009's pretty revealing indeed I don't think that its character changes that much with amps upgrades, unlike the 007.

 

100 octane fuel won't make a twingo faster than a Ferrari f12 (no offense to anyone).

 

 

A little anyway.

 

The 009 is more demanding in amplification that the Lambda, but less that the 007.

 

Differences in listening to the 009 of one amplifier to another are often obvious (except in blind).


For my experience with the 009 for a subjective ranking of the sound quality :

 

SRM 007t2 < SRM 727 

SRM 727 <= RKV + Wee (with voltage transformers connected)

RKV + Wee (with voltage transformers connected) <= Electra 

RKV + Wee (with voltage transformers connected) << RKV (in direct mode OTL) (without voltage transformers of the Wee connected. (surely)

Electra < RKV (in direct mode OTL) (without voltage transformers of the Wee connected). (probably)

 

Eric


Edited by eric65 - 2/27/14 at 3:26pm
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Meets, Get-Togethers, Factory Tours › Local / Regional Head-Fi Meets, Parties, Get-Togethers › Local meeting in Paris, March the 15th, initiated by HCFR : hifi and home theater French speaking association