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Anyone interested in the subgenre of Shoegaze?

post #1 of 62
Thread Starter 

Shoegaze is an alternative subgenre, with lots of guitar effects, and distortions, and vocals indistinguishable.

I'm a big fan of it, bands like Ride, Jesus and Mary Chain are my favorites.

But I don't think many people know, or like this type of music around me. Once I presented it at a rock history class, the TA, who is a professional composer, doesn't even know about it.

 

BTW, what type of headphones would be great for this type of music?


Edited by thmmrs - 2/11/14 at 12:33am
post #2 of 62

I'm pretty sure there are a lot of fans of that genre here.

Personally I love Difference Engine, like MBV, etc. Usually listen with MrSpeakers Alpha Dogs, Ultrasone Signature DJs but actually preferred the Beyer T5P's with this particular genre...

post #3 of 62

Slowdive, Lush, Chapterhouse are "old" favorites; really love Ulrich Schnauss for his contemporary take on shoegaze.  

 

While I think have a great phones is important to getting deep into good stuff like Lush's first EPs or anything by Schnauss, it's been my experience that the amp is where the rubber meets the road.  Even when the original recording is great, inadequate amplification often translates into an exceptionally flat sound for a lot of these recordings.  Clarity is key here for me, not dynamics.  

post #4 of 62

Seems to me the whole post-rock scene is just the evolution of it. and some of the bands that get labeled as "post metal" that aren't really metal.

post #5 of 62

Personally, I find that the Grado SR line of headphones accompanied by a tube sounding amplifier sounds really well with shoegaze type of music since the Grado's tend to boost the upper midrange and thereby opens up for the multiple layers of guitars and distortion. Then again the Grado's can be too bright or aggressive for others..


Edited by Jupiterknight - 2/14/14 at 8:16pm
post #6 of 62

For a modern take on shoegazer, check out Denver's rather remarkable A Shoreline Dream.  Ryan Policky, ASD guitarist, vocalist, and engineer, experiments broadly with engineering and stereo imaging/placement.     http://www.latenightweeknight.com - this is Ryan's label for ASD.  

 

If you get a chance to catch them live, bring the best ear plugs you can get your hands on. This band is dangerously loud in a live venue.

post #7 of 62

I think I'm a shoegazer but not really sure what music  that is  to be honest. Grinding, distorted, layer upon layer of guitars?? Sounds like rock to me. The Jesus and Mary Chain ("Automatic" an all-time favorite), Catherine Wheel, BRMC, My Bloody Valentine?? Pretty ambiguous to me. A lot of The Black Angels (e.g. The Sniper At The Gates of Heaven, Young Men Dead) sounds pretty shoegazey but aren't they Psychedelic Rock? Will have to check out some of the bands mentioned here though.

 

My Sennheiser 600s do great with the genre. Listening right now! Use to do fine on my Grados too (PS500) but I've been in love with the Senns since I got them a few months ago and the Grados have been lonely.

 

Feeling bad now. Better go shoegaze.


Edited by AladdinSane - 2/15/14 at 4:32pm
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I think I'm a shoegazer but not really sure what music  that is  to be honest. Grinding, distorted, layer upon layer of guitars?? Sounds like rock to me. The Jesus and Mary Chain ("Automatic" an all-time favorite), Catherine Wheel, BRMC, My Bloody Valentine?? Pretty ambiguous to me. A lot of The Black Angels (e.g. The Sniper At The Gates of Heaven, Young Men Dead) sounds pretty shoegazey but aren't they Psychedelic Rock? Will have to check out some of the bands mentioned here though.

 

My Sennheiser 600s do great with the genre. Listening right now! Use to do fine on my Grados too (PS500) but I've been in love with the Senns since I got them a few months ago and the Grados have been lonely.

 

Feeling bad now. Better go shoegaze.

I like the the Hd600 as well with whatever we include or how we define this genre.. I have owned the Grado PS500 as well and they sounded way different from the Grado SR 60/80/225 etc lineup. Sold them relatively quickly.. Too much upper bass and recessed mids and IMO they didn't perform really well shoegaze/post-rock at all and I wasn't just looking at my shoes..

post #9 of 62
Since the Senns nothing on the Grado sounds that good I'm afraid.
post #10 of 62
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Since the Senns nothing on the Grado sounds that good I'm afraid.

Cool, but ??  that's okay... 

post #11 of 62
Ha! I don't mean to dis the Grados. I used them for a couple years. I think I'm just used to the 600 signature now. Now off to find some Lush and others!
post #12 of 62

I have a fair amount of Shoegaze in my collection:  MBV, Catherine Wheel, Slowdive, Swervedriver, BRMC, Jesus and Mary Chain, Ride and probably some others I'm omitting.  Catherine Wheel and Jesus and Mary Chain would be my favorites of the genre.

 

This may be too heavy for some but if you love guitar effects, check out the band "A Place to Bury Strangers".  I think their best album is "Exploding Head".  The album is totally brick-walled but the guitar effects are mind-blowing.

post #13 of 62
Thread Starter 

Yeah, Ulrich Schnauss is awesome!

I can sort of see clarity is important. But I'm also thinking that for some records, the thick sound wall, or the indistinguishable vocal is part of the features of shoegaze. Is there a conflict?

post #14 of 62
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Yeah, Ulrich Schnauss is awesome!

I can sort of see clarity is important. But I'm also thinking that for some records, the thick sound wall, or the indistinguishable vocal is part of the features of shoegaze. Is there a conflict?

Conflict?  No.  But for me clarity is important.  I interviewed Ulrich a few times (I'm a former music journalist) and we talked about how he approaches creating his sound, and how this translates into both recorded and live productions.  He would often get frustrated when playing live because all too often he encountered local/house sound guys who weren't terribly good at their jobs--much of the time his live shows are way more compressed than he'd like.  And, I personally notice it on my 2-ch rig, which is very revealing with a large sound stage.  His music just sounds way different (to me, way better) when the amplification is given more attention.  

post #15 of 62

BRMC one of my favorites. My M-100s.

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