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post #871 of 2222
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Originally Posted by Fafner View Post

Not that sure comparisons between the AK240 and the Hugo can be properly made. For example,you say the Hugo won,but I guess everything was single ended. Would it have been the same going balanced with the AK240? And results could be different with different headphones.

And not comparing apples to apples. AK240 is a portable all in one device.
The Hugo is not.
post #872 of 2222
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Originally Posted by Saraguie View Post

And not comparing apples to apples. AK240 is a portable all in one device.
The Hugo is not.

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post #873 of 2222
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Originally Posted by Saraguie View Post


And not comparing apples to apples. AK240 is a portable all in one device.
The Hugo is not.

 

Well I guess it also depends on the individual's lifestyle.  For me, I put my DAP in my pant pocket most of the time, so any unit/combo/stack that can't fit is out of my consideration.  I even use my ak240 naked as I don't like the look with its casing and don't want added bulk.

 

For some who always use a bag, size isn't a concern and as long as the unit/combo/stack fit into said bag, it will be as feasible as a standalone DAP and hence the comparison.  

post #874 of 2222

Don't know if anybody is interested but got this email from SoundFidelity today, don't know if it is just for prior customers or anybody.

 

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Dear ******,

We are getting a lot of enquiries about the fabulous Astell&Kern AK240 DAP but know the price (however good value the product is in comparative terms) is hard to find at £2,199.00, so we have decided to offer a trade-in deal for any other Astell&Kern player, to make ownership of the state of the art AK240 a little more palatable!

Astell&Kern AK240
Model Trade-in price*
AK120 Titan £1,359.00
AK120 £1,399.00
AK100 MKII £1,699.00
AK100 £1,799.00

*Subject to your trade-in item being in good condition without scratches or dents, and complete with original box and accessories.

If you wish to take up this offer, we will need to see your player first – send it to us for examination we'll make you an offer based on its condition.

Further credit for Astell&Kern aftermarket accessories (such as docks) also available.

Any questions? Please email us at sales@soundfidelity.co.uk.

Best regards,

Sound Fidelity

post #875 of 2222
Does anybody notice that The LINE OUT from AK 240 is not Linear / neutral

I have tried With amp , The best volume setting is at 65
If i use line out = 75 , everything sound not so natural

Please try it and Share Your opinion Here

Thank you
Edited by rudi0504 - 5/7/14 at 9:09am
post #876 of 2222
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Originally Posted by Saraguie View Post

And not comparing apples to apples. AK240 is a portable all in one device.
The Hugo is not.
I have to concur with the view that AK240 plus Hugo beats AK240 naked or AK240 plus amp.
I tried the X5 with Hugo and much prefer AK240 as a transport. Shouldnt be a difference but their is. Maybe optical v coaxial partly the different.
Seriously if you able try the Hugo it is amazing.
post #877 of 2222
Again,are you guys taking balanced drive into consideration? That's the mode the AK240 gives its best. Really no point in doing comparisons single ended.
post #878 of 2222
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Originally Posted by Fafner View Post

Again,are you guys taking balanced drive into consideration? That's the mode the AK240 gives its best. Really no point in doing comparisons single ended.
I honestly struggle to differentiate between the balanced output of the AK240 and the non balanced.
post #879 of 2222
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Originally Posted by cheznous View Post


I honestly struggle to differentiate between the balanced output of the AK240 and the non balanced.

Balanced has additional benefits vs SE but would depend on your earphones:

 

1 ohm impedance vs 2 ohm SE

2.3v power vs 2.1v

 

I hear bigger staging and better layering on my UE18 which improves the clarity.

post #880 of 2222

Today I had the chance to listen to the entire line of AK DAPs and some Fiio DAPsat a local store. Sadly they didn't have the ZX1 or DX90 though. I was using my Merlin with SP cable from Frank. I wasn't very impressed with the AK100 MKII and the AK120. However, I was very surprised how good the X5 sounded. Given it's price, I think I'd prefer it over the AK120. The AK240 is a whole nother story though. The level of detail is just incredible! Will go there next week again when I have my SE846. 

 

 

 


Edited by aLm0sT - 5/7/14 at 1:12pm
post #881 of 2222
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Originally Posted by rudi0504 View Post

Does anybody notice that The LINE OUT from AK 240 is not Linear / neutral

I have tried With amp , The best volume setting is at 65
If i use line out = 75 , everything sound not so natural

Please try it and Share Your opinion Here

Thank you

 

Which amp did you try it with? Or do you mean every amp you pair with AK240 behave like this? Did you do volume matching on the amp side after lowering the volume on AK240 from 75 to 65? How about setting it at 75 but not activating the line out function?


Edited by Bluebear - 5/7/14 at 1:12pm
post #882 of 2222
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Originally Posted by cheznous View Post

I honestly struggle to differentiate between the balanced output of the AK240 and the non balanced.
As kantana said, it depends on your earphones (headphone as well?). IE800 balanced vs unbalanced - significant difference; AKR03 balanced vs unbalanced - not so major, but noticeable enough.
post #883 of 2222

has anyone thought of doing the ak240 mod with red wine?

post #884 of 2222
Yes I've been studying the mod. Emailed Vinnie a few questions. He's very responsive and knowledgable. I don't want to be the first because I don't have a good knowledge base myself, but I am definitely interested.

I don't think I would ever amp it but I don't want to rule it out. I am leaning toward the plus mod to make sure I can do whatever I want in the future.
Edited by jlcichocki - 5/8/14 at 7:07am
post #885 of 2222
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Originally Posted by angelo898 View Post
 

has anyone thought of doing the ak240 mod with red wine?

Can you share which part of AK240 that you are not satisfied with and what you'd want to achieve by modding it?

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