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Originally Posted by Byronb View Post
 

Not sure you can really compare iCloud streaming to a lossless rip on the AK240.

As long as the files in WAV/AIFF, does it matter? Of course I'm no expert, so please feel free to correct me!

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Originally Posted by scorpio187 View Post
 

As long as the files in WAV/AIFF, does it matter? Of course I'm no expert, so please feel free to correct me!

 

Even if the streaming process does not alter or corrupt the file, there are significant differences in terms of sound quality as to how those files are successfully rendered.  AK240 and the AK products in general are very good at reproducing hiqh quality sound without distortion.  You cannot say that of an iPhone.   If you get a Hugo, you will be amping a crappy audio source.

 

On the other hand, if storage is a higher priority for you than sound quality, then the AK240 is probably not the best choice for you.

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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

Thank you V0.

Subscribers please keep this thread clean. It's for owners & demo-ers to post their impressions, and for prospectors who have genuine, legitimate & practical questions about the player. Realistic information (such has upcoming firmware features, etc or 3rd party accessories or supporting services also welcome here.

Price, design, & usability complaints from speculators & non-owners please don't post in this thread.

Owners OTOH who have legitimate complaints or wishlist (post experiencing the product naturally) are fine in posting/sharing their thoughts here though.

Friendly reminder for the purpose of this thread.... would appreciate misc discussed be parked to the other active ak240 general thread...
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Originally Posted by daseinpdx View Post
 

 

Even if the streaming process does not alter or corrupt the file, there are significant differences in terms of sound quality as to how those files are successfully rendered.  AK240 and the AK products in general are very good at reproducing hiqh quality sound without distortion.  You cannot say that of an iPhone.   If you get a Hugo, you will be amping a crappy audio source.

 

On the other hand, if storage is a higher priority for you than sound quality, then the AK240 is probably not the best choice for you.

Thanks, daseinpdx. That's all I needed to know!

post #740 of 2222
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Originally Posted by scorpio187 View Post
 

As long as the files in WAV/AIFF, does it matter? Of course I'm no expert, so please feel free to correct me!

Apple does not stream files at that high of a bit rate all the files stored in their cloud when streamed are down converted to 256. 

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Originally Posted by scorpio187 View Post
 

How about a portable amp/dac with iphone instead? Come on, I am sure you can get the same (if not better) results that way! ;)

 

I tried the CLAS both from an iPhone and using USB from my computer and the latter was noticeably better. I agree with @x838nwy that the AK240 is better, but also better than the CLAS from my computer. I don't know if this will be the same for all devices that can be used as a DAC for both though. One of the primary benefits of the AK240 is that it can do everything in one unit and play high-res and DSD files too, along with streaming from your computer. 

 

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Originally Posted by x838nwy View Post
 

Feel free to not buy the AK240. It doesn't cost them $2500 to make, that's for sure. But they're a commercial entity not a charity. There are other DAP's out there that are better value - the X5 and the DX90 come to mind. Is the AK240 6x better? I cannot answer for you, but I urge you to give it a try. Bring decent iem's. And a lot of money, in case you change your mind :)

 

Something worth considering is whether or not a company sells direct-only or through dealers. Through the latter there will be a significant dealer markup.

 

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Originally Posted by frankrondaniel View Post

Wow - just experienced a volume spike, a la what I've experienced with my DX50.  Hopefully my IE800's - and my ears - survived.  The AK was being powered via wall wart, last album had finished playing and was sitting there at the end of the last song (it should've turned off based on my settings but power options don't work properly for me).  I searched by artist, selected play all for one and bam!  Not good.

Yes this too has happened to me twice actually after sitting for a while as well but I noticed it after it had played DSD files only not after FLAC, AIFF, or other files...only DSD as I listen to it all the time even when I go to sleep most nights......

 

I've had a few problems with DSD. The unit sometimes freezes or crashes when paused in the middle of a music file. It will be using a lot of CPU power even though the music isn't playing.

 

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Originally Posted by scorpio187 View Post
 

As long as the files in WAV/AIFF, does it matter? Of course I'm no expert, so please feel free to correct me!

Apple does not stream files at that high of a bit rate all the files stored in their cloud when streamed are down converted to 256. 

 

Bit of a bad comparison I reckon. iDevices will stream high-res using library sharing, just as the AK240 will. However the AK240 will stream DSD, though their server isn't completely reliable yet.

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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post
 

 

I've had a few problems with DSD. The unit sometimes freezes or crashes when paused in the middle of a music file. It will be using a lot of CPU power even though the music isn't playing.

 

 

 

So far I haven't experienced any issues with DSD playback per se - all seem to be working well and sound great.  It's somewhat disturbing though - for my hearing! - that there might be some relationship between playing DSD and volume spikes.

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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post

 

 

Bit of a bad comparison I reckon. iDevices will stream high-res using library sharing, just as the AK240 will. However the AK240 will stream DSD, though their server isn't completely reliable yet.

 

Agreed, but I think he means streaming through Apple's iCloud service, and that does not stream high-res as most here would define it. 

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Originally Posted by kkcc View Post

good value? probably not.  
worth it for me? DEFINITELY yes!
Yes very much worth it, even with the small bugs that need to be ironed out....If I had to do it again definite yes!!
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I am very happy with the MQS streaming app. It works very nicely for me. Of course, when I am streaming DSD files, there may be the occasional lag because of the sheer size of the files. 

 

I was wondering if there are plans for the implementation of DLNA streaming, similar to what the Sony ZX-1 is capable of. This will allow those of us who store our music library in NAS to do native streaming and bypassing the PC/iMac.  

 

One lives in hope. :atsmile:

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Originally Posted by dsincere View Post

Yes very much worth it, even with the small bugs that need to be ironed out....If I had to do it again definite yes!!

No more stacking for quality sound n great implementation plus coupled with Lamborghini of the audio world looks, I will run out n buy it again if I lost it.
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Originally Posted by Kiats View Post

I am very happy with the MQS streaming app. It works very nicely for me. Of course, when I am streaming DSD files, there may be the occasional lag because of the sheer size of the files. 

I was wondering if there are plans for the implementation of DLNA streaming, similar to what the Sony ZX-1 is capable of. This will allow those of us who store our music library in NAS to do native streaming and bypassing the PC/iMac.  

One lives in hope. atsmile.gif

Since you mention MQS streaming......I can't get it to work. It starts to open and load my music and then immediately closes. I've tried deleting and re downloading etc. nothing seems to cure. Any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated.
post #748 of 2222
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Originally Posted by laurencewayne View Post

Since you mention MQS streaming......I can't get it to work. It starts to open and load my music and then immediately closes. I've tried deleting and re downloading etc. nothing seems to cure. Any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated.

Ah... I think I had a similar experience initially. I recall the link on the iRiver website should not be used. If you do a search in this thread, you will find the link to a working app. Good luck! smily_headphones1.gif
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I would try a couple of things. First is to create a new directory for your music files and try bringing MQS streaming up with no music files.  If it comes up then the issue is likely with one of your music files.  While applications shouldn't be sensitive to data issues they almost always are and it is very difficult to test for all data anomalies.  If it started with no issue and with no music files then stop MQS, add one or two music files to the new directory and restart MQS. If is starts with no issues then you can add more files on the fly until it breaks.  Second approach would be to uninstall, reboot your computer, download a new copy of MQS and try again.

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Right, after reading all these enthusiastic comments, I decided to pull the trigger and buy it. :cool: Hope I won't regret it!

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