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post #1186 of 2222
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post
 


Yeah, and my AK has to reach the US first...and then come back...so I am expecting I will get it back in a month...

How much additional investment we are talking here? Do you mind to share?

post #1187 of 2222
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post


Yeah, and my AK has to reach the US first...and then come back...so I am expecting I will get it back in a month...

Hope it works out for you bro.. I might also get an ak240 in the future to satisfy my curiosity, i just can't get the thing outta my head
post #1188 of 2222
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Originally Posted by flymetothemoon View Post
 

How much additional investment we are talking here? Do you mind to share?


495$

 

Click on purchase and you have all prices:

 

http://redwineaudio.com/mods/rwak240

post #1189 of 2222
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post
 


495$

 

Click on purchase and you have all prices:

 

http://redwineaudio.com/mods/rwak240

thanks.

post #1190 of 2222
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Originally Posted by rudi0504 View Post


AK 240 as stand Alone DAP pair headphone Amps is excellent

But

AK 240 as stand Alone DAP pair With home Audio and Speaker sound quality is very bad , totally different as i hear from headphone .
AK 240 as transport pair With Chord QBD 76 HDSD is excellent .

I Think The best dap like AK 240 still can not compete home audio CD Player plus dac

 

Hi rudi,

 

I'm not sure if I would agree with your assessment on the use of a 240 as a source component in a high quality music system. Although I do agree a dedicated high-end server or CD player will easily outperform a 240 by itself, I wouldn't characterize the sound as being "very bad." Obviously, this is a highly subjective area, and your experience with expensive gear warrants a level of utmost respect, but I would suggest that the best proof of whether a 240 can be a viable source component is for those interested to try it for themselves.

 

Personally, my modest $15K main system sounds very good with the 240. I look forward to A&K releasing the adapter seen at shows that allows a fully balanced connection to a preamp or integrated amp. Perhaps then, a definitive judgement can be made as to the capability of the 240 when so employed. Additionally, I'm eagerly awaiting others who have had their 240 fully upgraded by RWA where a true line out is provided; does bypassing the volume circuit make a noteworthy improvement? I would expect so ...

 

rudi, I offer my thoughts not to be contrary, but to suggest others be open minded‚ÄĒyour comments carry a lot of weight in this forum and some might dismiss experimenting using the 240 as a source and thus missing out on a pleasurable experience. I always enjoy reading your posts, and I hope you will take my words as being strictly, IMO.

 

 

 

post #1191 of 2222
Anyone tested the QOOBUZ High-Res streaming access from AK240 ? Is it already opérational ? How does it sound ?
post #1192 of 2222
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Originally Posted by jwbrent View Post
 

 

Hi rudi,

 

I'm not sure if I would agree with your assessment on the use of a 240 as a source component in a high quality music system. Although I do agree a dedicated high-end server or CD player will easily outperform a 240 by itself, I wouldn't characterize the sound as being "very bad." Obviously, this is a highly subjective area, and your experience with expensive gear warrants a level of utmost respect, but I would suggest that the best proof of whether a 240 can be a viable source component is for those interested to try it for themselves.

 

Personally, my modest $15K main system sounds very good with the 240. I look forward to A&K releasing the adapter seen at shows that allows a fully balanced connection to a preamp or integrated amp. Perhaps then, a definitive judgement can be made as to the capability of the 240 when so employed. Additionally, I'm eagerly awaiting others who have had their 240 fully upgraded by RWA where a true line out is provided; does bypassing the volume circuit make a noteworthy improvement? I would expect so ...

 

rudi, I offer my thoughts not to be contrary, but to suggest others be open minded‚ÄĒyour comments carry a lot of weight in this forum and some might dismiss experimenting using the 240 as a source and thus missing out on a pleasurable experience. I always enjoy reading your posts, and I hope you will take my words as being strictly, IMO.

 

 

 

I'm now feeding my home system with optical out with good results.

post #1193 of 2222
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Originally Posted by jwbrent View Post

Hi rudi,

I'm not sure if I would agree with your assessment on the use of a 240 as a source component in a high quality music system. Although I do agree a dedicated high-end server or CD player will easily outperform a 240 by itself, I wouldn't characterize the sound as being "very bad." Obviously, this is a highly subjective area, and your experience with expensive gear warrants a level of utmost respect, but I would suggest that the best proof of whether a 240 can be a viable source component is for those interested to try it for themselves.

Personally, my modest $15K main system sounds very good with the 240. I look forward to A&K releasing the adapter seen at shows that allows a fully balanced connection to a preamp or integrated amp. Perhaps then, a definitive judgement can be made as to the capability of the 240 when so employed. Additionally, I'm eagerly awaiting others who have had their 240 fully upgraded by RWA where a true line out is provided; does bypassing the volume circuit make a noteworthy improvement? I would expect so ...

rudi, I offer my thoughts not to be contrary, but to suggest others be open minded‚ÄĒyour comments carry a lot of weight in this forum and some might dismiss experimenting using the 240 as a source and thus missing out on a pleasurable experience. I always enjoy reading your posts, and I hope you will take my words as being strictly, IMO.





Thank you For Your input
I Will try it Again With Other set Up Im Home audio speaker system .
In My Friend home audio is not so Shining .
I Dont Know why ?

Did you use external DAC With optical out pair With Your AK 240 ?

As source pair My Mass Ko Bo 394 SQ is excellent .
Today i pair also With Chord Hugo > JH Roxanne is also excellent
And as dap + Mass Ko Bo 395 portable amp > JH Roxanne is also excelent
Edited by rudi0504 - 6/16/14 at 10:56am
post #1194 of 2222
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Originally Posted by flymetothemoon View Post

I'm now feeding my home system with optical out with good results.

I am agree With you
AK 240 as source use optical output pair With Chord DAC QBD 76 HDSD is top notch , The best DAC pair With AK 240 so Far With optical out

IMO
post #1195 of 2222
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Originally Posted by Levanter View Post

Hi Rudi,
Is the SQ for AK240 as standalone DAP for home audio and speaker very bad?
Did you use any dedicated home audio amp paired with the AK240 to feed to the speakers? I have tried the AK100MK2 connected to a Sunfire amp which feeds to Home Audio speakers and they sounded very good.
Will be very surprised and disappointed if the AK240 sounded bad if in similar test.

As i tested With My Friend Chord pre amp and Stereo Power amp

Source :AK 240 use Centrane cable 6,3 mm to rca , use adapter mini plug to 6,3 mm
Pre amp : Chord i Forget The model
Power amp : Chord
speaker : from Dane Mark i Forget The brand name

SQ : is Good Only , not so excellent as i pair direct to Mass Ko Bo 394 With Headphone
Or as i use AK 240 as transport Only pair With Chord DAC QBD 76 HDSD ,SQ is THE best i Ever heard
For My desktop set Up .
If not limitation from optical 16 bit / 96 kHz , i Wish to top Up My HuGo biggrin.gif

Note : My Friend Said , maybe i must use High End cable like Shunyata
I Will try it Again With My Shunyata Ztrone Anaconda RCA later on

IMO
Edited by rudi0504 - 6/16/14 at 11:09am
post #1196 of 2222
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Originally Posted by rudi0504 View Post


Thank you For Your input
I Will try it Again With Other set Up Im Home audio speaker system .
In My Friend home audio is not so Shining .
I Dont Know why ?

Did you use external DAC With optical out pair With Your AK 240 ?

As source pair My Mass Ko Bo 394 SQ is excellent .
Today i pair also With Chord Hugo > JH Roxanne is also excellent
And as dap + Mass Ko Bo 395 portable amp > JH Roxanne is also excelent

 

Hi rudi,

 

Thank you for taking my words so graciously. Regarding your question, no, I'm a simplicity guy, wanting to keep my system as minimal as possible. There was a time when I worked in the High End audio industry (26 years) where I took the opposite approach ... complexity was the norm. At one time, I had a two channel system worth $120,000 comprised of an SME 10/Koetsu Rosewood and Levinson Reference gear: 31.5 transport, 30.6 DAC, and 32 preamplifier. These were connected to a pair of the top of the line Classe Audio Omega mono-blocks driving Wilson Watt/Puppy 7s with the top of the line Tara Labs cables, themselves worth over 20k. After I left the industry 9 years ago, I became much simpler in my approach to life and hifi gear in particular. Plus, I don't need to hear music at 110dB+ levels anymore in order to gain a sense of emotional involvement.

 

Tubes will do that to you ... :wink_face: 

post #1197 of 2222

Hi everyone,

 

I want to report an anomaly with my 240. I just moved to San Francisco and while getting my home all sorted out, I used my 240 as the source for my main system so I could have uninterrupted music going on while I worked. I started noticing that every so often, there would be a half second mute within a song. The problem initially happened only a few times a day, maybe, but now it appears to happen more often‚ÄĒa few times an hour.

 

I now live in a dense, RFI neighborhood whereas before, I lived in an isolated part of the Santa Cruz mountains. I mention this because I've noticed my bluetooth Tivoli radio connected to my MacBook do the same thing, although not as frequently. I wonder if there is some connection and whether RFI can induce such problems.

 

Any knowledgeable opinion would be greatly appreciated ...

post #1198 of 2222

I have noticed the same thing.  If my iphone is right next to the AK240, then the music will pause/mute frequently or make strange static noises.  This is even with the wifi and bluetooth turned off on the AK240.  I have to make sure to keep a good distance between the AK240 and my phone.  Seems like it is very susceptible to RFI.

post #1199 of 2222
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Originally Posted by ozzymo View Post
 

I have noticed the same thing.  If my iphone is right next to the AK240, then the music will pause/mute frequently or make strange static noises.  This is even with the wifi and bluetooth turned off on the AK240.  I have to make sure to keep a good distance between the AK240 and my phone.  Seems like it is very susceptible to RFI.

 

ok, interesting ... I'll have to do some experimenting with my iPhone. Thanks, ozzymo, for your comments.

post #1200 of 2222
Impressions in the following,
I managed to get my hands on an AK240 at a local headphone shop in Beijing. The owner was an avid fan of Taylor Swift and Chinese opera so that's basically what I listened to all afternoon. With my HE-500's plugged directly into the AK240, the overall sound was very clean with absolutely no background noise whatsoever. Compared to the other DAPs I managed to try out, the signiture of the AK240 was dead neutral. However, I found the sound of the AK240 to be a little less dynamic than the HM901's, and a bit sterile overall. The AK240 had the widest and deepest sound stage I had ever heard from a DAP, and at times felt a bit small sounding and/or distant compared to the HM901's. Resolution and detail retrieval matched the HM901's. Based on what I've heard, the AK240 would easily fair better with IEMs with its expansive sound stage and overall lack of background noise and coloration but the dynamics and presentation of the HM901s won me over as the better sounding DAP. It's a great DAP, and probably the closest thing to IEM perfection, but in all honesty, I don't think the AK240 is worth the $2000+ price tag (in my sense of economics, thats like 4000 Mcdonald's hamburgers). Those dual Cirrus Logic CS4398's are monsters though.
Edited by headphonatic - 6/17/14 at 8:32pm
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