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post #1081 of 2222
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Originally Posted by madFloyd View Post

Hi all,

I received my AK240 and started listening on Sunday.  It's now Wednesday and I just spent the last hour comparing the sound quality to my RAWK100.

I'm surprised. While the 240 sounds good the midrange is more recessed and jazz guitar and piano solos seem less engaging. The bass is bigger and the highs slightly sharper.  I think the 240 has a blacker background but the midrange on the RWAK120 sound more organic.

I'm using Shure SE846's with a custom cable and these Shures are new so I'm going to switch to my 535's and also try my Focal Studios.

Overall I'm not blown away like I expected to be. I'd say the differences are somewhat subtle.

What's not subtle is the UI/ergonomics of the 240 - so much nicer to use in every respect.

The battery is terrible though.  For the comparison I've only been using 16/44 and battery hasn't budged on the 100 while it's down to 90% on the 240. 

So I guess the question I have is :  how much more can I expect the 240 to change during break in?   I've probably got 30 hours on it so far.
"RWAK120" appeared once in your post. Is that a typo since you've been talking about RWAK100?

Anyway, SE846 (or shall I say all SExxx) is a vocal-concentrated IEM and AK240 does not make much difference in just that aspect comparing to its predecessors. It will be even more the case if you mainly listen to vocals, especially pop's, though they should still sound more powerful and richer on AK240. Personally I would say an all-round IEM benefits more from upgrading from previous AKs. I would suggest you grabbing a balanced cable for it since balanced out is where AK240 truly shines as much as it shines more for some and less for others.
post #1082 of 2222
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Originally Posted by my-2000 View Post


"RWAK120" appeared once in your post. Is that a typo since you've been talking about RWAK100?

Anyway, SE846 (or shall I say all SExxx) is a vocal-concentrated IEM and AK240 does not make much difference in just that aspect comparing to its predecessors. It will be even more the case if you mainly listen to vocals, especially pop's, though they should still sound more powerful and richer on AK240. Personally I would say an all-round IEM benefits more from upgrading from previous AKs. I would suggest you grabbing a balanced cable for it since balanced out is where AK240 truly shines as much as it shines more for some and less for others.

 

120 was a typo and it should have read 100, thanks for noticing. I have edited my post.

 

What would be an example of an all around IEM?

post #1083 of 2222
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Originally Posted by laurencewayne View Post
 
Ok gonna' ask a very silly question, but since you are so kind in responses.....how do you "stop" playing a song? I know you there is pause (blinking time) and play of course, but what if you just want "stop"- that also might help batter life?

 

Pause = Stop. I don't think it would be consuming many CPU cycles in a paused state. Other than playback, the biggest battery drain would be the screen.

post #1084 of 2222
i had hm901, but after i bought ak240, i sold my hifiman, i think its just a piece of junk, even with the so called balanced card, since u said 901 can match 240 , i am wondering what IEM or headphones u r using
post #1085 of 2222
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post


  • In the song playing screen, allow a slide right or left for the previous or next track

We can actually swipe up/down for previous/next. Not sure if you are referring to having left/right in addition to up/down. I would rather have the left/right to go last/next folder or album....
post #1086 of 2222
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Originally Posted by kkcc View Post


We can actually swipe up/down for previous/next. Not sure if you are referring to having left/right in addition to up/down. I would rather have the left/right to go last/next folder or album....

That'll be nice...left & right for tracks, up 'n down for albums.

post #1087 of 2222
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Originally Posted by tantian999 View Post

i had hm901, but after i bought ak240, i sold my hifiman, i think its just a piece of junk, even with the so called balanced card, since u said 901 can match 240 , i am wondering what IEM or headphones u r using

I also have both now and don't plan on selling the 901. For my iems I consider than on par but with different tuning - ak240 more clarity and neutral, hm901 more full and comparatively mid forward. For my full size phones the 901 drives them better hands down.

But yes it looks like junk, especially for any of my non headfi/audiophile friends... but then the ak240 also sounded like their samsung or iPhone for them too and they all look at me like I'm some sort of freak or idoit or both for spending on these "crap"!
Edited by kkcc - 5/21/14 at 11:14pm
post #1088 of 2222
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Originally Posted by tantian999 View Post

i had hm901, but after i bought ak240, i sold my hifiman, i think its just a piece of junk, even with the so called balanced card, since u said 901 can match 240 , i am wondering what IEM or headphones u r using

I think HM901 is very good. Just that AK240 is much better.
post #1089 of 2222
perhaps it was only MY 901 that didnt sound good enough, as hifiman has always had QC problems over the years. but their background noise, as we have agreed in another audiophile chat group, is almost unbearable! unless u r using re600 in the balanced mode. and as for their ability to drive high impedence headphones, 240 is actually much better. but yes u have to use a much higher volume, but in terms of distortion, its almost non-existent! but 901, on the other hand, cant even drive their own he500. but they sound phenomenal on ak240. believe it or not, give it a try, i have tried many headphones, including hd650 240 is better by a long long shot!
post #1090 of 2222
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Originally Posted by tantian999 View Post

perhaps it was only MY 901 that didnt sound good enough, as hifiman has always had QC problems over the years. but their background noise, as we have agreed in another audiophile chat group, is almost unbearable! unless u r using re600 in the balanced mode. and as for their ability to drive high impedence headphones, 240 is actually much better. but yes u have to use a much higher volume, but in terms of distortion, its almost non-existent! but 901, on the other hand, cant even drive their own he500. but they sound phenomenal on ak240. believe it or not, give it a try, i have tried many headphones, including hd650 240 is better by a long long shot!

Personally, I agree with you completely that AK240 is much better.
post #1091 of 2222
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Originally Posted by tantian999 View Post

perhaps it was only MY 901 that didnt sound good enough, as hifiman has always had QC problems over the years. but their background noise, as we have agreed in another audiophile chat group, is almost unbearable! unless u r using re600 in the balanced mode. and as for their ability to drive high impedence headphones, 240 is actually much better. but yes u have to use a much higher volume, but in terms of distortion, its almost non-existent! but 901, on the other hand, cant even drive their own he500. but they sound phenomenal on ak240. believe it or not, give it a try, i have tried many headphones, including hd650 240 is better by a long long shot!

I haven't experienced noise or distortion on my hm901, nor this was mentioned by any owners on HeadFi so this is indeed news to me. I don't have noise issue with my jh13 or tg334, which are both very sensitive to noise. Not really sure what distortion you are referring to...

I love my ak240 a lot but it can't drive either my LCD3 nor HD800. Hm901, even in SE mode does that better than balanced mode on ak240. When paired with desktop amp, I like the ak240 as source better with my LCD3, and 901 better with my HD800.

I'm really contemplating getting the AK240 dock and remote for home use but the accessories are really way too overpriced.
Edited by kkcc - 5/22/14 at 12:35am
post #1092 of 2222
i guess we just hear differently then, never tried hd800 on the balanced mode, but the unbalanced socket sounds pretty good to me. and to drive something like hd800, i dont think any portable.device is good.enough.
post #1093 of 2222
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Originally Posted by madFloyd View Post

What would be an example of an all around IEM?
As a proud IE800 owner I'd naturally recommend it, especially the balanced one. Significantly different from unbalanced. IE800's classical is unbeatable, instrument in general is better than other IEMs (very general that is since there are so many different instruments), male voice is oh-very-nice. People mostly complain about its female voice but to me it doesn't sound all that bad comparing to other IEMs I've heard. Oh and, its price is also unbeatable comparing to other brands' flagship IEMs.

If you have something against dynamic IEM or IE800's sound signature, I suppose ToGo 334 is a good one too. My impression of it is a BA IEM trying to sound like dynamic. Personally I wasn't impressed by it though, but I haven't tried it with balanced cable.
post #1094 of 2222
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Originally Posted by my-2000 View Post


As a proud IE800 owner I'd naturally recommend it, especially the balanced one. Significantly different from unbalanced. IE800's classical is unbeatable, instrument in general is better than other IEMs (very general that is since there are so many different instruments), male voice is oh-very-nice. People mostly complain about its female voice but to me it doesn't sound all that bad comparing to other IEMs I've heard. Oh and, its price is also unbeatable comparing to other brands' flagship IEMs.

If you have something against dynamic IEM or IE800's sound signature, I suppose ToGo 334 is a good one too. My impression of it is a BA IEM trying to sound like dynamic. Personally I wasn't impressed by it though, but I haven't tried it with balanced cable.

 

 

I fully agree, balanced IE800 is stunning for orchestral works. They already paired well with previous A&K DAPs, but the AK240 takes them to a superior level. One actually wouldn't expect such a performance from a portable setup.

As for HD800, I only had the chance to try it unbalanced, and while the sound was actually pretty good, the volume just wasn't enough, at least for classical music. But it was just for the sake of curiosity, I don't think it makes much sense to use the HD800 on a portable setup, nor to expect it to give its full potential on a mobile setup. I don't even think it would make sense for me to get an Hugo to gain that 1% improvement people around seem to point at, or to gain the ability to take the HD800 on the go. I want my portable setup to sound great but to be...as portable as it can be. I can't really see myself carrying around my HD800 on holydays or when I'm out of home. And when I'm at home my B52 does the trick, I very strongly doubt about any portable setup being even able to approach its performance.


Edited by Fafner - 5/22/14 at 3:52am
post #1095 of 2222
since u mentioned to go334, i just have to say: man, the sound is fatiguing. when u hear it the first time u might fall.in love with it immediately, but after u use it for a while, u just feel u made the biggest mistake by purchasing it. i have never had a pair of iem that sounds soooo fatiguing. but it improves if u switch to the 000 cable, but still,with that price, k3003 is much better, unless u prefer really strong base. k3003s performance on 240 is unbeatable, despite the fact that it.sounds terrible on all the other DAPs i have had(dx100 okay, but still its nowhere close to k3003). give it a shot if u happen to have a pair of k3003 within reach
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