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Watched Countless Reviews/Threads, Still Can't Decide (Please Help) Monitor Headphones around 400$

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 

Hello, I have searched the internet and these forums for hours looking for a good pair of headphones to buy, but there was just too many varied opinions for me to decide. I am trying to become a producer of both Electronic/Dance music and Folk/Acoustic music, and my only audio output to make it will be headphones. 

 

I just bought Sennheiser HD-25-1-ii for 250$

 

They sound very good, but a few months ago, and I know everyone hates them and they have a horrible rep to audiophiles, but I was using Dre Beats Studio and loved the sound of those more, even if it was only cause the built in bass boost and altered frequency responce. I still was able to hear everything super crisp and clear, and with the Sennheisers the bass isn't as profound, and it all seems a little muddier-  I can't really hear zone into the parts of a song in a crisp clear isolation or w/e. Plus I saw a video of Skrillex mixing a song with them with Beats and it made me want them more lol.

 

Here is the best I've found through all my searching, even in other similar topics to this. I am hoping this week to return the Sennheisers and use the money towards one of these, I am having A LOT of trouble deciding:

 

(And yes I really do like beats by dre)

 

Beats by Dre Studio

Beats by Dre Pro (haven't heard these yet)

 

Sennheiser HD8 DJ http://en-us.sennheiser.com/on-ear-headphones-stereo-hd8-dj

Sennheiser HD7 DJ http://en-us.sennheiser.com/dj-headphones-over-ear-stereo-hd7

Sennheiser HD 600 http://en-us.sennheiser.com/best-audio-headphones-high-end-stereo-hifi-hd-600

 

HiFiMAN HE-400 http://www.head-fi.org/products/hifiman-he-400

 

Also very important note: I know it helps a lot but I DO NOT WANT TO AMP. I only want to carry around a headphone and a chord.

Any help and knowledge you know about any of these or other recommendations you can give will be greatly appreciated!!!


Edited by port11 - 2/9/14 at 5:09pm
post #2 of 11
Thread Starter 
Basically the Sennheiser HD 25 1 ii is a DJ headphone so all the sounds in the song are up front and meshed together, I need a earphone designed for listening/producing (not DJing) for no less than 300 and no more than 400$.
post #3 of 11

HD25 are a much better option than beats if you're producing music. It's not whether you like them or not, it's whether they're accurate or not and beats are way off accurate.

You could look at some closed back models from shure (840, 940) and sennheiser (380 pro).

post #4 of 11
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the reply, but all those models you mentioned are under 200$, which is cheaper than the Sennheisers that I currently have. Are there any that are over 300$? I want to get as good of quality as I can for the 400$ I'm willing to spend.

 

Im starting to get used to the HD 25 1 iis if i turn them way up, but still if theres something more crisp sounding for 100-150$ more so I can produce electronic music I'd like to upgrade. 


Edited by port11 - 2/10/14 at 1:44pm
post #5 of 11

What do you mean by crisp sounding? Emphasised highs? The whole point of headphones for music production is that they don't colour the sound.

post #6 of 11
Thread Starter 

Ah good question, basically when I use synths I like them to be super sharp and concise sounding, with these headphones it seems like some of the "sharpness" is lost. I am used to my old Beat Studio Pros it was very "couloured" and I felt more immersed in the music. But then again those aren't monitor headphones so that might be why. But if there are monitor headphones for 100$ or so more than the Sennheiser HD 25 II 1s that can provide a little better sound quality that would be awesome. 

post #7 of 11
If you refuse to use an amp, then you better cross the HD600 and the HE400 off your list. I don't really understand why you would refuse to use an amp. You don't need to carry the amp, you just need to plug the headphones into it. What's the difference?

If you like Beats, and you want to use them - then why are you asking anyone here about other headphones? I say use what you want to use - go buy some Beats and have a nice life.
post #8 of 11
Thread Starter 

I would rather put all the money towards a pair of headphones instead of buying both a headphone and an amp. And I know with all the other high end brands I'm just now learning about there has to be some in the same price range better than beats. Also, I do not care the slightest about fashion, design, or comfort. I just need good sound quality for 300-400$, there's just so many different opinions and models out there I haven't been able to find any solid recommendations even though I've been looking for weeks. 

 

As of now Im just going to keep the HD 25 1 iis, but i can return them and put it towards anything up to 400$, it only makes sense that if I payed 150$ more for a new model they would sound better, right?

post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by port11 View Post
 

I would rather put all the money towards a pair of headphones instead of buying both a headphone and an amp. And I know with all the other high end brands I'm just now learning about there has to be some in the same price range better than beats. Also, I do not care the slightest about fashion, design, or comfort. I just need good sound quality for 300-400$, there's just so many different opinions and models out there I haven't been able to find any solid recommendations even though I've been looking for weeks. 

 

As of now Im just going to keep the HD 25 1 iis, but i can return them and put it towards anything up to 400$, it only makes sense that if I payed 150$ more for a new model they would sound better, right?

Wrong.

'better' in this situation is entirely subjective, because you're putting the word 'better' to mean what's better for you.

The HD25 for example, is an objectively,scientifically measurably better headphone than the beats studio and almost 100% of headfiers will agree that it is also subjectively better; but you want the kind of sound that the beats give you.

 

So in this situation, throwing money as the 'problem' will not necessarily lead to something better for you.

If you're still interested in suggestions, I would add Beyerdynamic DT990 (32 ohm version) to your list of possibles.  


Edited by GREQ - 2/11/14 at 12:27am
post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 

I definitely want to go for something objectively accurate, cause I'l be producing music with them for other people to listen to on whatever headphones or speakers they have. The DT990s look good but cost less than what I have now, so I'm not sure if it would be worth the risk to switch. I actually heard good things about the 2013 edition of Beats Studios, and Beats Executive, (dont mind batteries) so theres a chance I might get those.

 

but there is a ton of hate on the beats brand and a ton of praise for Sennheiser so its tough to get an unbiased response, but I guess now Im between:

 

Beats Studio 2013 Edition (300$)

Beats Executive (300$)

Sennheiser HD 25 1 ii (250$) [my current pair]

Sennheiser HD 8 DJ (390$) 

HiFiman He 400 (330$)

+ any other suggestions in similar price range

 

Is the HD8 really much better than the 25 1ii? and has anyone who knows good sounding audio heard the 2013 Studios or Beats Executive without automatically hating them for the brand name/stigma that comes with them? And the He400 got good reviews, but focusing on sound quality only which of all these is the best?


Edited by port11 - 2/11/14 at 1:10am
post #11 of 11

Objectively, headphones from Beyerdynamic and AKG are the top studio headphones, and can be commonly found in almost every professional studio in the world.

Objectively the hate for the beats brand is not unfounded. The absolute very latest beats stuff is a huge step up from the old overpriced stuff, but still not worth two thirds their price.

 

The fact is, beats produce over-priced consumer fashion accessories.

Sennheiser, AKG, Beyerdynamic all produce TOOLS for audio creation.

 

Also, HE-400 is great, but is too coloured for studio use/audio creation.

 

I suspect you'll be best off with the new Sennheiser HD8. 

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