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post #16 of 38
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Any thoughts on the PSB M4U 1 Over-Ear? 

very strident... i didnt like it at all. It had good bass but the sound quality was wierd I cant explain i any other way but it lacks transparency though it is forward

 

i prefer the momentum 

post #17 of 38
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Looks like we've narrowed it down to the Momentum and the HP50. 

post #18 of 38
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I just bought both on Amazon. I will try them out for a few weeks and keep the one I like best. Seems like the Momentums are closest to the HD650 so maybe I will like that more. However, there are concerns about the fit for some people. The same issue can be said about the HP50. Either way, both have been recommended by you guys so I will test them out. I'll post a review when I get them because it seems like there aren't many reviews between the two. Thank you all!! 

post #19 of 38
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I just bought both on Amazon. I will try them out for a few weeks and keep the one I like best. Seems like the Momentums are closest to the HD650 so maybe I will like that more. However, there are concerns about the fit for some people. The same issue can be said about the HP50. Either way, both have been recommended by you guys so I will test them out. I'll post a review when I get them because it seems like there aren't many reviews between the two. Thank you all!! 

good report back here I would like to know what you think. 

 

the black momentum is still imo the nicest looking hp around.

post #20 of 38
That's a good plan. Looking forward to the review. Best luck!
post #21 of 38

momentum ....closest to hd650? :blink:

post #22 of 38

holy crap look at that momentum treble... whoah i dont remember it like that...

closest would be the NAD or shure based off this. dude the momentum is being outclassed 


Edited by grizzlybeast - 2/9/14 at 5:05pm
post #23 of 38
Depends on your definition of "outclassed" - not everyone wants that extra 10 dB in the bass that you see in the NAD.
post #24 of 38

I shouldnt have put the outclassed part with the frequency graphs but I stand by it.

the NAD also is nailing what is trending in hp's frequency goals for the development of a lot of new headphones. 

 

momentum was my favorite but looses in timbre, instrument separation, clarity, soundstage, treble information, and refinement to the following that I have heard:

p7,yamaha hph mt220, akg k545, sony mdr 7520 

 

I have a strong feeling the other newbies like the hp50, spirit classic, 1540 ,kef m500 etc and so forth are outclassing it as well.

post #25 of 38
The treble on Momentum is as I remember it.

The reports about warmth and the charts are why I'm not trying HP50. Sean Olive can take all the polls he wants: that's *not* what I want to hear.
post #26 of 38

^ymmv the treble dip is as inaccurate on the momentum if not more than the bass bump but to each his own. the hd650 is already considered dark.

post #27 of 38
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I got the Momentums today and have been trying them out for the last hour or so. I am pretty impressed!! Good SQ, treble, mids, bass. The headphones are smaller than I thought but they fit me ok (no discomfort yet). At first when I switched out the cable (to the non-mic one) only one side of the headphone worked. After a few tries inserting the plugs in both sides worked. I am really enjoying them. I will see how the NAD HP50 sound when they arrive tomorrow.

post #28 of 38
Just throwing in my opinion here:

Most of these new high-end fashion headphones are brilliant but everyone sees and hears things differently.

For example, I like the sound of the new K545, but I wouldn't be seen dead wearing those (*shudder*)

Also I prefer the sound of the Momentum to the K545 because the K545 sounds thin and boring to me, and the timbre and tonal balance of the momentum sounds more natural to my ears.

 

Some of the newer (and more expensive) headphones are technically better than the Momentum, but to say it is being outclassed is a bit heavy handed when it still puts up a good fight in many aspects and is in no way a bad headphone for the money, especially when considering the absolutely dismal offerings from other similar priced headphones from brands like Monster. 

 

I think it's going to be a difficult choice, but if I were you I'd go with the NAD. I don't see why anyone would want to own ONLY similar sounding headphones. 

Why settle for enjoying one type of sound, when you can just enjoy them all!

 

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^ymmv the treble dip is as inaccurate on the momentum if not more than the bass bump but to each his own. the hd650 is already considered dark.

Try to think of the curve as a bass/mid increase rather than a treble dip. 

This really works in noisy environments where low-mid and bass perception is the first thing to get affected by noise.

So when you turn up the volume to compensate, you aren't bombarded with piercing treble and high mids. 
The result is actually rather spectacular. 

 

In quiet environments the other headphones like NAD, B&O H6, M500 etc are much better choices. But my commuting experience since the end of 2012 couldn't be better (aside from getting some fancy IEMs)

post #29 of 38
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^ for sure. I'm not opposed to trying out other headphones. It doesn't have to sound like the HD650 for me to like it. But I must say, the Momentums are pretty nice.
post #30 of 38
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The NAD HP50 came in today. I've listened to it since about 8 PM or so (alternating between the HP50 and the Momentum). The HP50's offer a different experience. They sound more open and spacious. You hear a bit more of the music and they are more neutral than the Momentum. Listening to songs by Andrea Bocelli was nice. The vocal was very clear and it sounded very good. Listening to various other songs sounded good and open as well. However, there's something about it that I don't really like. Perhaps it's too neutral or too "roomy" feeling. Sometimes when I move my ipod there's a bit of a static sound (perhaps because the wire/connection on the ipod moves a bit as well). The clamping force is stronger as well. I can actually feel a bit of pressure around my ears with them on. The Momentum do not feel that way on my head.

 

I will continue to listen to both of them for the next week or two to break them in a bit more. At this point I'm leaning toward the Momentum. The Momentum just seems to have more pop and a fuller sound. Perhaps that's because vocals are a little more forward on the Momentum. They are warmer/darker than the HP50 (which are brighter). 


Edited by soundstage77 - 2/12/14 at 11:01pm
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