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So the long and short of it is that I'm searching for a headphone that will be very strong for my needs and a good all arounder.

 

I'm a flight paramedic and spend a lot of time on a turbo prop aircraft for which I like my Bose QC-15 with the Iphone can opener app to listen to music on dead legs. Otherwise I travel for education/training and prefer my IEMs for portability. I'm smitten with my TripleFi 10s and their accuracy, speed and relatively fun sound over being a neutral IEM. At home I have a Grado SR80i, Denon D2000, Fidelio X1 and recently bought my girlfriend a Momentum over ear which I use on occasion.

 

Again, I love the sound of the TF10s, the Grado is wonderful for hard rock and metal which I love. The Denon D2000s are my favorite headphone overall and do everything the X1 does but a little better with the exception of the feeling of space. I listen to a lot of hard rock and metal although my preference goes toward music like Tool, APC, Massive Attack, NIN, Lamb of God . I desire speed and detail... admittedly my hearing has suffered due to my job and years playing in hard rock and various other bands as a bassist. I consider myself a treble head vs. basshead. I don't like muddy booming bass and hate when it interferes with the frequencies that the bass occupies.

 

My search has come down to the HiFiMan He-500, Beyer DT880, Sennheiser HD600 and Grado RS1i. I've somewhat disqualified the HD600 as I believe they'd be a bit dark for me ( compared to my preferred Grado, TripleFi 10 Denon D2000 likings). Not sure about the Hi-Fi Man, I imagine the Beyer would be more of the same of what I already have but haven't heard them. I'm leaning toward the Grado RS1i but would really like a closed can if I decide to take it on the road. The Denon isn't the greatest for isolation.

 

Thank you in advance for your input

post #2 of 6
I'm having a little bit of hard time understanding what you're looking for with regard to two things.

1. Treble vs. Bass. What is it you want it to sound like?
2. Open vs. Closed. Because all of the models you mentioned are open, but you might want something closed.

It occurs to me that maybe you're asking "What's a 'closed Grado?'" But maybe you're asking a completely different question.

Sorry if maybe I've misunderstood something obvious.
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The consequence of typing and enjoying a beer I found to be 10.5%.

 

I like the Grado sound as far as the SR80i goes but like the extended bass of the Denon or Fidelio X1. Basically, yes, what would be a closed version of the Grado sound. Looking for detail over bass quantity. I'm not married to the closed headphone notion as I know that my preferences tend toward an open design. Looking for recommendations from people who may have found a solution to a similar question.

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So, ideally, a closed Grado-like model with more bass detail, but you're willing to settle for an open version of that.

 

Regarding the latter, a number of the non-SR series Grados have much better bass. I haven't heard all of them, but I was impressed with the bass detail on RS1i. So if you really like Grados, that would be the most obvious possibility.

 

It doesn't have to be only RS1 because many listeners report that the differences between RS1 and RS2 are marginal, negligible, or even nearly impossible to discern (take your pick). The GS1000 has even more bass, if you want quantity too but it's less Grado-like in the upper-mids and lower-treble. So it's riskier if you can't try it out first.

 

Of the others on your list, DT880 is closer than the other two because it's dynamic and has a treble peak, but the only time I called it Grado-like was I teasing a Beyer fan who didn't like Grados.

 

For "closed Grados," it's really an unsettled question. I haven't yet found the one. If I had to pick one, as of now I'd choose HD25-1 but when I listen to it, I don't think, "That sounds like a Grado." The one I'm most curious about is K271. This thread is intended to represent the state of current research: http://www.head-fi.org/t/689357/closed-grados-a-compilation-of-30-threads-poll.

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Awesome! That was helpful. I'm leaning toward the RS1i heavily. In my research I've heard a number of people saying that the RS1i and RS2 are worlds apart, others say it's no more than a 10% difference. Others even say that theres a minimal difference between the RS1i and the SR325i. I have no way of auditioning these so I'm left the the subjective reviews of others.

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Originally Posted by benthughes View Post
 

Awesome! That was helpful. I'm leaning toward the RS1i heavily. In my research I've heard a number of people saying that the RS1i and RS2 are worlds apart, others say it's no more than a 10% difference. Others even say that theres a minimal difference between the RS1i and the SR325i. I have no way of auditioning these so I'm left the the subjective reviews of others.

 

I haven't heard RS2i, but I've heard both RS1i and SR325i and they not alike. SR325i is recognizably an SR, albeit one that's very hard to take ;). RS1i sounds like a Grado, but the bass makes it a different creature from the SR's. My own taste is toward a bass light sound so I've stayed with an SR. You might try using tape-modded L-cushions on your 80i, though that affects quantity more than detail.

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