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post #16 of 28
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Originally Posted by 62ohm View Post
 

If you want to retain the sound sig of the Q701 but you don't want to mod it and you want a more comfortable alternative, K712 is what you're looking at.

If you want a different sound sig and at the same time much more comfortable than Q701, DT880 is what you're looking at.

 

Both are very good cans, and both are far from being a "basshead" headphone.

 

Must disagree with you on the sound signature of the K712's - it's quite different 

from that of the Q701's.  Darker, more bass, substantially smaller soundstage.

post #17 of 28
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Must disagree with you on the sound signature of the K712's - it's quite different 

from that of the Q701's.  Darker, more bass, substantially smaller soundstage.

 

I'm not saying the K712 sounds the same as Q701, I meant they have similar sound signature with different characteristics of course. The K712 may have slightly smaller soundstage, but it has better imaging. The point is, it would be easier for someone to get used to the K712 from Q701, rather than getting used to say, HD650 or DT880.

post #18 of 28
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Originally Posted by shortyg83 View Post
 

In 250ohm there are two different headphones. The Pro and the Premium. I was asking if there was a difference between them

 

Yes - this isn't noticed a whole lot from what I can see, 

and I think that's because the Premium is more widely

available than the Pro. 

 

But from what I can tell, the differences are structural

and cosmetic.

 

More specifically, the headband of the Premium is

coated black foam of some type (not sure if it's memory

foam or otherwise).  The headband of the Pro has foam 

too, but it's covered in some synthetic material which

wraps around it and snaps on and off.  In other words,

it's replaceable - as is every part of the Pro.

 

Here's a picture of it:

http://north-america.beyerdynamic.com/shop/dt-880-pro.html

 

The Pro has a coiled cord; the Premium a straight cord.

 

The Pro has "DT 880" sort of 'printed' on the outside of

the earcups, while the Premium actually has a metal

plate imprinted with "DT 880" actually pinned or riveted to the

outside of the earcups.

 

AFAIK, those are the only, or certainly the main differences.

The drivers seem to be identical, the earcups and padded velour

covers on the inside as well.

 

There may be a very slight weight difference between

the two versions.

 

The Premium ships in a large foam padded zipper

case made of leather...the Pro ships with a velour pouch

instead.

 

But for 100% certainty on this, I'd contact Beyerdyamic

(rather than a reseller).

 

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Phone: +49 7131 617-444

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post #19 of 28
Thread Starter 

Are there fakes of these?

I ordered they 880 pros 250ohm.

Plug them into my vali, at first they sound ok then I notice on certain low notes they get obscenely muddy and ****ty, like so bad I wanted to throw them away.

I let them play for a while and the sound started to improve, do they need an extended break in period?

post #20 of 28

If you want a similar sound with more comfort, the HD598 is nice. It is also looks great. 

post #21 of 28
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Originally Posted by shortyg83 View Post

Are there fakes of these?
I ordered they 880 pros 250ohm.
Plug them into my vali, at first they sound ok then I notice on certain low notes they get obscenely muddy and ****ty, like so bad I wanted to throw them away.
I let them play for a while and the sound started to improve, do they need an extended break in period?

I think its the recording's fault. The q701 is definitely bass light, so it can potentially hide any bad bloated bass, while the dt880 will Definitely play it out. DT 880 is one of the best headphones in its price range, and I dont think any beyerdynamics get faked. Only super popular headphones get faked, like the m50, beats, ect.
post #22 of 28
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Originally Posted by shortyg83 View Post
 

Are there fakes of these?

I ordered they 880 pros 250ohm.

Plug them into my vali, at first they sound ok then I notice on certain low notes they get obscenely muddy and ****ty, like so bad I wanted to throw them away.

I let them play for a while and the sound started to improve, do they need an extended break in period?

 

Are you playing them very loud?

Sounds like you may be clipping the vali - 

Also, are the recordings lossless files, CD's, vinyl?

post #23 of 28
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by zazex View Post
 

 

Are you playing them very loud?

Sounds like you may be clipping the vali - 

Also, are the recordings lossless files, CD's, vinyl?

Def not clipping the Vali. And no not very loud, not even a little loud. The volume knob is only 25% up. The bass for the first 30 min was completely unbearable. And I am not talking about big boomy techno bass. I am talking about anything below a mid in a rock/pop or any type of song made them get ungodly muddy.  It seems to have gotten much better, I am not sure what the issue was. They don't sound as good as the Q701, but they are more comfortable. I will probably end up keeping both sets of cans.

post #24 of 28
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Originally Posted by shortyg83 View Post
 

Are there fakes of these?

I ordered they 880 pros 250ohm.

Plug them into my vali, at first they sound ok then I notice on certain low notes they get obscenely muddy and ****ty, like so bad I wanted to throw them away.

I let them play for a while and the sound started to improve, do they need an extended break in period?

 

I don't mean to ruin your purchase, but you should have go for the standard 'premium' DT880.. I've never heard the Pro, so I can't comment on the lows there (though it sounds like you may got a bad unit).

post #25 of 28
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by 62ohm View Post
 

 

I don't mean to ruin your purchase, but you should have go for the standard 'premium' DT880.. I've never heard the Pro, so I can't comment on the lows there (though it sounds like you may got a bad unit).

Why should I have gone for the premium? Since you never heard them, are you aware they are the same driver? And are virtually identical.

post #26 of 28
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Originally Posted by shortyg83 View Post
 

Why should I have gone for the premium? Since you never heard them, are you aware they are the same driver? And are virtually identical.

 

I've heard the standard DT880, and liked them. I've never heard the Pro, but many says they are quite different than the standard 'premium' DT880. But if you're happy with yours, that's all that matters.

post #27 of 28
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Originally Posted by zazex View Post
 

 

Must disagree with you on the sound signature of the K712's - it's quite different 

from that of the Q701's.  Darker, more bass, substantially smaller soundstage.

Yeah it's different. Much better and resolving to my ears. 

No comparison. And if anything, the Q701 has the mid-bass hump.

post #28 of 28
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Originally Posted by zazex View Post
 

 

Are you playing them very loud?

Sounds like you may be clipping the vali - 

Also, are the recordings lossless files, CD's, vinyl?

 

 

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Originally Posted by shortyg83 View Post
 

Def not clipping the Vali. And no not very loud, not even a little loud. The volume knob is only 25% up. The bass for the first 30 min was completely unbearable. And I am not talking about big boomy techno bass. I am talking about anything below a mid in a rock/pop or any type of song made them get ungodly muddy.  It seems to have gotten much better, I am not sure what the issue was. They don't sound as good as the Q701, but they are more comfortable. I will probably end up keeping both sets of cans.

 

Hmm

 

not sure what it could be - never experienced it with either my

DT880 250 ohm Premium's or DT880 Pro 's or in fact any of

my headphones (and certainly hope not to).

 

Glad to hear it got better or went away, whatever..

I happen to like the DT880's more than the Q701

(and the K702 which I had about a year ago) - although

I do like both of those as well.  The Q701, K702's, and

K712's - which I have now - all do different things very

well with some weaknesses in each.  

 

I'd like to see AKG combine the best aspects of each

(while limiting or eliminating their weaknesses) into one

terrific headphone that doesn't cost a king's ransom.

 

 

 

Glad it appears to have 

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