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Do iems lack seriously behind full sized hps?- m50 vs se535

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I currently own an audio technica m50 and a pair of shure se535s. However much i try to like the se535, i keep gravitating to the m50. In just about all aspects the m50 seems to outdo the se535... Obviously the soundstage and bass impact are far better, there's a lot more texture to the music, the expansive soundstage leaves room for a lot more detail, highs sound clearer, etc. basically, the m50 gives the music a much more realistic taste than the se535 is capable of, which doesn't seem to justify the price gap of 350 dollars. Is this normal, or are my ears out of whack? Or is it just that the iems' tiny ba drivers are physically incapable of producing a more realistic sound? I keep reading that iems have much better details than full sized headphones, but the larger sound stage of the m50 simply seems to leave room for more of everything and better resolution overall. Although i've read the se535 to be very mid forward and deliver very good vocals, it seems the texturing of the m50 gives an overall realistic flavor to vocals se535 seems to lack. I guess what i want to ask is does anybody else feel this way, or are my ears just incapable of hearing the subtle nuances in headphones? Or is it that headphones have little difference in the sound to begin with, and that audiophiles/ people with amazing hearing can easily pick up on this? There's no doubt- the se535 sounds better than any other iem i've owned, but the realistic presentation of m50 renders the bucks that could be spent (i didn't really buy them at 500 bucks) as wasted frown.gif any opinions?
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I currently own an audio technica m50 and a pair of shure se535s. However much i try to like the se535, i keep gravitating to the m50. In just about all aspects the m50 seems to outdo the se535... Obviously the soundstage and bass impact are far better, there's a lot more texture to the music, the expansive soundstage leaves room for a lot more detail, highs sound clearer, etc. basically, the m50 gives the music a much more realistic taste than the se535 is capable of, which doesn't seem to justify the price gap of 350 dollars. Is this normal, or are my ears out of whack? Or is it just that the iems' tiny ba drivers are physically incapable of producing a more realistic sound? I keep reading that iems have much better details than full sized headphones, but the larger sound stage of the m50 simply seems to leave room for more of everything and better resolution overall. Although i've read the se535 to be very mid forward and deliver very good vocals, it seems the texturing of the m50 gives an overall realistic flavor to vocals se535 seems to lack. I guess what i want to ask is does anybody else feel this way, or are my ears just incapable of hearing the subtle nuances in headphones? Or is it that headphones have little difference in the sound to begin with, and that audiophiles/ people with amazing hearing can easily pick up on this? There's no doubt- the se535 sounds better than any other iem i've owned, but the realistic presentation of m50 renders the bucks that could be spent (i didn't really buy them at 500 bucks) as wasted frown.gif any opinions?

 

I think it might be signature differences really.  The SE535 were designed to be a sweeter 'phone with good, but neutral bass extension.  The M50 might color the bass slightly to create the idea of sound stage through reflections and air while the SE535 is a little softer on the top end which allows the M50 to be more airy as well adding to soundstage. 

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I think it might be signature differences really.  The SE535 were designed to be a sweeter 'phone with good, but neutral bass extension.  The M50 might color the bass slightly to create the idea of sound stage through reflections and air while the SE535 is a little softer on the top end which allows the M50 to be more airy as well adding to soundstage. 

agree. like me , i like my es700 (100dollar) more than my dt770pro(150dollar) tho its just a small gap between prices and its headphone vs headphone, its all down to preference in sound. my brother like my dt770pro more but for me ill take the es700 any day. 

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