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post #406 of 622
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Originally Posted by Hapster View Post


Can you take a screenshot so I can test it on my phone?

 

Here you go:


It's pretty subtle, but I like it a lot.

post #407 of 622
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Originally Posted by Bohdy View Post

Here you go:




It's pretty subtle, but I like it a lot.

clip+/zip with rockbox as mentioned above has the same parametric eq. (lets you specify f,q,dB for several bands (8 or so bands you can tune to your liking)

I end up eqing the same for 8k. except a bit more @ -3-3.5db. (but I tend to get offended by treble more easily than most people) (same q)

regarding boosting mids or lower mids - I'll try the 200-800 range later,
maybe it'll make it sound a bit less 'mids cold'.
LL
I'm not certain, but I think looking at the graph the 'coldness' isn't so much (only?) the 200-800 range being recessed, but (also?) the 2-5k being too forward relative to 700-1.5k (progressively going up to 5k).
The reason I say not so much 200-800 is that I've seen it tuned that way before on the FR without noticeable coldness. (and that I'm rather bad telling minor eq settings 250-400 hz)

for example compare it to the raw chart for DN1k here
guess what I'm trying to say is - i'd probably eq a wide band around 1k as well.
say q=0.7 (clip+ setting, I dunno if it's actually 1/q), in any case whatever the wider band setting is ), f=1000, dB=+1.5-2.5dB
(or maybe f=800hz depending how wide q=0.7 actually is.)
ps anyone know of any good apps to graph overlapping f/q/dB bands ?
Edited by svyr - 5/25/14 at 6:17am
post #408 of 622
Fidue have a hybrid IEM on the way, the A83. I should be getting one in the next few weeks. Let's see how it compares to the H-300. I'm also waiting for a DN-2000
post #409 of 622
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Originally Posted by ostewart View Post

Fidue have a hybrid IEM on the way, the A83. I should be getting one in the next few weeks. Let's see how it compares to the H-300. I'm also waiting for a DN-2000
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Originally Posted by svyr View Post

clip+/zip with rockbox as mentioned above has the same parametric eq. (lets you specify f,q,dB for several bands (8 or so bands you can tune to your liking)
....
for example compare it to the raw chart for DN1k here
guess what I'm trying to say is - i'd probably eq a wide band around 1k as well.
say q=0.7 (clip+ setting, I dunno if it's actually 1/q), in any case whatever the wider band setting is ), f=1000, dB=+1.5-2.5dB
(or maybe f=800hz depending how wide q=0.7 actually is.)
ps anyone know of any good apps to graph overlapping f/q/dB bands ?

at the end of the day, (for mids only, with the 8k correction above(so -3db at 8k, q=1.5))
i like 1-1.5 db , q=1.5, f=800 (to correct the slight dip).
and 1.5-3dB, q=0.8, f=1000 (to bring up the mids a bit over the upper mids)
maybe 0-1.5db, q=0.8, f=500.
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Originally Posted by ostewart View Post

Fidue have a hybrid IEM on the way, the A83. I should be getting one in the next few weeks. Let's see how it compares to the H-300. I'm also waiting for a DN-2000
=) i think one of the australian headfiers is getting an A83 as well.
post #410 of 622
It looks good, and detachable cables also.
post #411 of 622
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Originally Posted by ostewart View Post

Fidue have a hybrid IEM on the way, the A83. I should be getting one in the next few weeks. Let's see how it compares to the H-300. I'm also waiting for a DN-2000

 

That comparison will be interesting...

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Originally Posted by svyr View Post



at the end of the day, (for mids only, with the 8k correction above(so -3db at 8k, q=1.5))
i like 1-1.5 db , q=1.5, f=800 (to correct the slight dip).
and 1.5-3dB, q=0.8, f=1000 (to bring up the mids a bit over the upper mids)
maybe 0-1.5db, q=0.8, f=500.
 

 

I agree with this tuning... The DN2000 needs a little bit of push at the mid-bass/lower midrange area to sound lively.

Otherwise, also near perfect to my ears.

 

H300 on the other hand sounds great from Bass to mids although others prefer to raise the lower midrange a bit. I'm not bothered by it.

The lower treble peak does need some taming for it to sound REALLY great.


Edited by d marc0 - 5/26/14 at 2:48am
post #412 of 622
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Originally Posted by d marc0 View Post
 

 

That comparison will be interesting...

 

I agree with this tuning... The DN2000 needs a little bit of push at the mid-bass/lower midrange area to sound lively.

Otherwise, also near perfect to my ears.

 

H300 on the other hand sounds great from Bass to mids although others prefer to raise the lower midrange a bit. I'm not bothered by it.

The lower treble peak does need some taming for it to sound REALLY great.

NOOOOOOO!!!! :wink_face:

 

DN2k is perfect as is to my ear...

post #413 of 622
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Originally Posted by djvkool View Post

NOOOOOOO!!!! wink_face.gif

DN2k is perfect as is to my ear...

Sorry I was wrong... It's actually almost perfect as is. A little bump @ 80hz and slight reduction @ 450hz will make the DN-2000 almost as good as H300 bass. The dunu is a bit on the soft/boomy side so slight adjustment is needed. Really slight and I mean 1-2 db only.
post #414 of 622
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Originally Posted by d marc0 View Post

Sorry I was wrong... It's actually almost perfect as is. A little bump @ 80hz and slight reduction @ 450hz will make the DN-2000 almost as good as H300 bass. The dunu is a bit on the soft/boomy side so slight adjustment is needed. Really slight and I mean 1-2 db only.

=) band descriptions please. in frequency, q value, db value format.

250+ is mids.
1-250 is bass.

eqing 450hz can reduce the upper bass and mid bass (120-250hz) but it will also affect lower mids. (if you use a wide band)
maybe a narrow band around say 150-180hz is better. (say q=2.5)

(depends where you eq it).


for me, on clip+ dn2k always started distorting when I eqed around 50hz up more than 2.5db. (which upset me a bit). (chasing the h300 bass)
so i still end up eqing the H300 8k down(q=1.5, db=-3.5), 0.8k a bit up (1db, q=1.6), and mids up 1k, q=0.8, db=2-3.5

anyhow - please post the complete eq configs for both h300 and dn2k (I think you mentioned you eq the mids on dn2k to be a bit sweeter as well)
post #415 of 622
  • 20hz -0.5db
  • 128hz 0db
  • 1khz -1db
  • 6.5khz -0.8db
  • 8khz -3db
  • 10khz -1.5db
  • 20khz 0db

For 10 band:
  • 32hz -0.5db
  • 128hz 0db
  • 1khz -1db
  • 4khz -0.7db
  • 8khz -3db
  • 16khz 0db
post #416 of 622
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Hapster View Post

 
  • 20hz -0.5db
  • 128hz 0db
  • 1khz -1db
  • 6.5khz -0.8db
  • 8khz -3db
  • 10khz -1.5db
  • 20khz 0db


For 10 band:
  • 32hz -0.5db
  • 128hz 0db
  • 1khz -1db
  • 4khz -0.7db
  • 8khz -3db
  • 16khz 0db




From a flat setting how much would you say the treble needs lowering in db for a standard you'd be happy with? 


I can see your estimate there though how much would be just enough to make it safe in your opinion?
Edited by H20Fidelity - 5/28/14 at 8:20am
post #417 of 622
Anywhere between 1.5-4 imo. Anything higher and it starts to sound dark.
post #418 of 622
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Originally Posted by svyr View Post


=) band descriptions please. in frequency, q value, db value format.

250+ is mids.
1-250 is bass.

eqing 450hz can reduce the upper bass and mid bass (120-250hz) but it will also affect lower mids. (if you use a wide band)
maybe a narrow band around say 150-180hz is better. (say q=2.5)

(depends where you eq it).


for me, on clip+ dn2k always started distorting when I eqed around 50hz up more than 2.5db. (which upset me a bit). (chasing the h300 bass)
so i still end up eqing the H300 8k down(q=1.5, db=-3.5), 0.8k a bit up (1db, q=1.6), and mids up 1k, q=0.8, db=2-3.5

anyhow - please post the complete eq configs for both h300 and dn2k (I think you mentioned you eq the mids on dn2k to be a bit sweeter as well)

 

At first I had quite a similar setting as you did but I wanted the least adjustment possible because I don't really want to change the sound signature.

 

My current EQ setting for DN-2000:

@ 80hz / +1db / Q=1.5

@450hz / -2db / Q=1.5

 

What I'm after is a tighter/thumpier bass from the DN-2000. I find the settings above meet my requirements without changing the sound signature much.

It's still not at the same quantity as the H-300 but the quality is quite close as far as detail and clarity.

 

I'll post my EQ settings for H-300 in the morning. I'm at work right now and I don't have access to my EQ settings.

post #419 of 622
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Originally Posted by Hapster View Post

  • 20hz -0.5db
  • 128hz 0db
  • 1khz -1db
  • 6.5khz -0.8db
  • 8khz -3db
  • 10khz -1.5db
  • 20khz 0db

For 10 band:
  • 32hz -0.5db
  • 128hz 0db
  • 1khz -1db
  • 4khz -0.7db
  • 8khz -3db
  • 16khz 0db

haha, you eq the treble down as much as me.

out of curiosity, why eq down 1k? I actually eq it up as I think it's a bit upper mids forward vs 1-2 vs 3-5 k
post #420 of 622
Think of -1db preamp, so it doesn't distort.

Everything is eq'd down about 1db, so 1k is flat.
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