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Originally Posted by zombywoof View Post
 

If you are using an iPod Classic, you may want to consider the JDS Labs C5 amp + LOD (such as Fiio L9).  This will bypass the amp on the iPod.  I don't believe that there is any point to a having a DAC with a Classic as it is not capable of digital output through the LOD.  You may want to get someone else to confirm this, but I am pretty sure it is correct.  I am using iPod Classic 7G 160 Gb > Fiio L9 LOD > C5 > Shure SE535...very sweet indeed, and not a bank breaker.  Also a good size match with the iPod.

 

 

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Originally Posted by dcfac73 View Post
 

Wrong. I'm using the digital output on the Classic going into the Sony PHA 1. Sounds brilliant too.

 

 

To clarify, for non-apple devices to extract digital signal from ipods, they need to be authorised by apple (labelled "MFi"), so only a few authorised non-apple products are capable of doing that. These include the PHA-1, Vamp Verza, and M8. 

 

There are also MFi docks that will take digital signal out of the ipod while docking it for home hi-fi setup - such as this one by Onkyo: http://www.intl.onkyo.com/products/accessories/ri-dock/nd-s1/index.html

post #32 of 34
Additional products that are MFI to extract from iDevices are Cypher Labs' Solos (3 products) and Theorem, ADL X1, AK10, Venturecraft (a few here), etc
post #33 of 34
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Originally Posted by intlsubband View Post
 

 

 

 

 

To clarify, for non-apple devices to extract digital signal from ipods, they need to be authorised by apple (labelled "MFi"), so only a few authorised non-apple products are capable of doing that. These include the PHA-1, Vamp Verza, and M8. 

 

There are also MFi docks that will take digital signal out of the ipod while docking it for home hi-fi setup - such as this one by Onkyo: http://www.intl.onkyo.com/products/accessories/ri-dock/nd-s1/index.html


Correct. But the post that I quoted stated that digital extraction from the Classic was not possible. AFAIK, there  only a few dac/amps compatible in this way with the Classic (eg PHA1/2, Fostex, and a few others). There are quite a few more which are made for ios (which is not the OS of the Classic).

post #34 of 34
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Originally Posted by intlsubband View Post
 

By the way, people here write about "7th gen" ipod - as far as I know there is no such thing - the latest ipod is the iPod Classic from late 2009, they didn't release any new models (not including touch).

It's my understanding that the production run that started in late 2009 is technically an extension of the sixth generation and is sometimes referred to at 6G "revision two", but for marketing purposes it's been called the seventh-generation device. The sixth generation was introduced in 2007, then the 80GB and 160GB models were discontinued in 2008 (the former because of lack of demand and the latter because it still used the thicker, older body style of the previous generation), leaving only the 120GB left. That change is what is referred to as "revision one". The second revision, which is marketed as the seventh-gen device, came in 2009 when Apple fit 160GB of space into the thin sixth-generation body, discontinuing the 120GB version in favor of it a little while later. My iPod is a 160GB model with a thin sixth-gen body, making it a 7G or "revision two" iPod. Its build date is in mid-2011, whereas an early 6G 160GB model would have a 2007 or early 2008 build date.


Edited by ssrock64 - 4/14/14 at 5:38pm
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