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post #346 of 2671
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post
 

Any chance of sharing the EQ settings?

 

The B3 Pro is even better than the Pistons in detail, and much more neutral. It is one of the most transparent iems I've ever heard. Imaging is near flawless. Their only "downside" is their bass neutrality. It could use a tiny bit more to my liking, but it is more true to source as is.

I can post the settings for the Technics SH-9010 parametric equalizer + bass and treble controls on the Technics SU-A60 preamplifier, but at the time can not post the resulting curve, as I am not  "computer literate" enough to use some software that would generate such a curve, although I do have basic measurement capabilities ( an oscilloscope).  It is unfortunately no "easy" curve, graphic EQ with fixed center frequencies and Q will not be enough, parametric equalization really is the necessity.

 

I am afraid your answer will see down the drain the $ necessary for the Havi B3 Pro.  The only downside is the mentioned bass neutrality; I strictly use Meier DIY amp with crossfeed ( it is not the ultimate in "crossfeeding", but does get the job of removing the in the head localization with IEMs well enough - in strictly required portable format ) ; when crossfeeed is engaged (101% of time with me), it does make the bass lighter, necessitating a slightly bass heavy headphone for the correct overall balance. If Havi B3 Pro II does have slightly more bass than the original Pro, that might be better match with Meier implementation of crossfeed; however, NOT at the expense of less flat and extended treble.  I can "learn" to work with bass light monitoring, if the treble is a mess, you can not hear what is going on during the recording and may result in rude awakening back at home -  or immidiately after the concert, if quiet enough place for the use of open headphones is available .

But both of that is too late ...

 

I would like to thank you for your input so far and would appreciate any comment on the above.

post #347 of 2671
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Originally Posted by ebrian View Post
 

Great idea.  I could never get the mesh to fit back over the nozzle so every once in a while I've been lightly blowing into it to clear out any earwax/dust.  Kleenex idea just makes a whole lot more sense.  Does it affect the sound at all?

 

Doesn't feel like it. Must use the thinnest napkin though.

post #348 of 2671

I played with Pistons 2 one of my fav Frank Zappa albums I know from heart dead drunk at 2 AM - and was LMAOing

at the fun the horribly non linear frequency response with the stock tips without any attempts with tone controls/EQ was producing.

 

*Somewhere* in this or Chinese/Asian... thread I read that double flanged tips helped taming the frequency response and thus improve the SQ. It took me some time to find my only pair of double flanges that in the past came with Nexodia model ???  IEMs. 

 

BINGO !

 

Combined with the bass loss introduced by the Meier implementation of crossfeed, now Pistons finally are palatable without EQ. Light years more accurate than with stock tips. Treble also subdues in approx 6 kHz range to

much more flat response, no longer accenuating hiss & noise as Pistons 2 with stock tips do - their most annoying failing without EQ with stock tips.

 

$ 2 or so tips vs 1K$+ preamp+equalizer - (not to mention portability ) - not bad, not bad at all...

 

Enjoying this vid of FZ from Roxy & Elsewhere ( these songs are not on the double LP, but I am super familiar with the sound of this 3 day event ) as I type this:

 

 

I experienced this singer live - and Xiaomis with double flanged tips could still use some EQ for perfect sound, but are quite decent :

 


Edited by analogsurviver - 2/25/14 at 4:00am
post #349 of 2671

Damn, I am lookin for a low budget IEM and this forum is really helpful with all the reviews and opinions.

I already made my choice to go with the Vsonic GR02 Bass but now I came across this thread,

 

Please help me to decide: I can get the Vsonic GR02 Bass for 31$ or the VSD1S for 40$ or the Xiaomi Pistons for 25$.

Is there anyone who owns these and could compare them for me?

Thanks in advance!

post #350 of 2671
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Originally Posted by analogsurviver View Post
 

I can post the settings for the Technics SH-9010 parametric equalizer + bass and treble controls on the Technics SU-A60 preamplifier, but at the time can not post the resulting curve, as I am not  "computer literate" enough to use some software that would generate such a curve, although I do have basic measurement capabilities ( an oscilloscope).  It is unfortunately no "easy" curve, graphic EQ with fixed center frequencies and Q will not be enough, parametric equalization really is the necessity.

 

I am afraid your answer will see down the drain the $ necessary for the Havi B3 Pro.  The only downside is the mentioned bass neutrality; I strictly use Meier DIY amp with crossfeed ( it is not the ultimate in "crossfeeding", but does get the job of removing the in the head localization with IEMs well enough - in strictly required portable format ) ; when crossfeeed is engaged (101% of time with me), it does make the bass lighter, necessitating a slightly bass heavy headphone for the correct overall balance. If Havi B3 Pro II does have slightly more bass than the original Pro, that might be better match with Meier implementation of crossfeed; however, NOT at the expense of less flat and extended treble.  I can "learn" to work with bass light monitoring, if the treble is a mess, you can not hear what is going on during the recording and may result in rude awakening back at home -  or immidiately after the concert, if quiet enough place for the use of open headphones is available .

But both of that is too late ...

 

I would like to thank you for your input so far and would appreciate any comment on the above.

You won't need crossfeed with the B3 Pro. It has a unique wiring structure with it's 4 wires that basically turns them into a balanced earphone internally. The imaging/separation is desirable and unique. It takes a bass boost without much distortion well too. It's a better earphone than the Piston in every way, minus the boosted bass.

post #351 of 2671
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post
 

You won't need crossfeed with the B3 Pro. It has a unique wiring structure with it's 4 wires that basically turns them into a balanced earphone internally. The imaging/separation is desirable and unique. It takes a bass boost without much distortion well too. It's a better earphone than the Piston in every way, minus the boosted bass.

Thank you for the reply - much appreciated.

 

From your description it is clear recently resurrected Havi B3 Pro (original) will smoke Piston for my application.  My poor wallet... - still, VERY grateful for the info.

 

However, ANY IEM requires some form of crosfeed - plugging the ears cancels natural crostallk between the ears in the most abrupt and effective way imaginable. 

My serious cans are AKG K 1000 and Stax Lambda Pro/SRM1MK2/ED1 Diffuse field EQ - both of which would make mockery out of soundstaging of ANY IEM without crossfeed, no matter what. My aim is to get as close to this performance with IEM as humanly possible - preferably without breaking the bank.  IEMs used for live recording should be inexpensive enough so an ocasional "oopsy daisy" does not see off $500 and upwards - it can  happen EXTREMELY quickly; most musicians who want to listen to the take just recorded do take care of other people's equipment - but there unfortunately are some that would "get it" only after having their own instrument smashed at their own head ... - and it is more than enough to leave me with broken IEMs and nothing to monitor with ( or using substantially inferiour IEM ) , effectively making proper monitoring of the recording impossible. 

 

Once I do find an IEM that is satisfactory, I will immediately order spare pair(s) - to stay on the safe side.

post #352 of 2671

I settled to Meelecs M6 medium tips, they fit me very well and are so comfortable, I don't even feel them in my ears. The sound is improved very much from stock tips, which are not that bad, but they introduced some harshness in higher mids. The bass is tight and well controled with more punch, mids are gorgeous like everybody says already and the treble is sweet and sparkly with so much detail. Soundstage is wider, win some width and depth also.

Pistons sounds great with everything you throw at them. Clapton's unplugged or Dire Straits, ACDC or Guns's knock on heavens door is like you're there but also trance + pistons = love. :)

 

 

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Originally Posted by WiKi View Post
 

Damn, I am lookin for a low budget IEM and this forum is really helpful with all the reviews and opinions.

I already made my choice to go with the Vsonic GR02 Bass but now I came across this thread,

 

Please help me to decide: I can get the Vsonic GR02 Bass for 31$ or the VSD1S for 40$ or the Xiaomi Pistons for 25$.

Is there anyone who owns these and could compare them for me?

Thanks in advance!

I have vsd1s and the pistons and I much like the pistons. They have more bass, sub bass actually, the mids are comparable, very good both. But I think I'm very sensitive to sibilance. I find the vsd1s very detailed and transparent, but I listen at higher volume levels and it's getting offensive and harsh to my ears. The pistons instead are very easy on ears, you can listen for hours and don't get bored or fatigued. The pistons are more full bodied sound and have better soundstage imo. At the end of the day they're both good, it's more like a personal preferance.

post #353 of 2671
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Originally Posted by WiKi View Post

Damn, I am lookin for a low budget IEM and this forum is really helpful with all the reviews and opinions.
I already made my choice to go with the Vsonic GR02 Bass but now I came across this thread,

Please help me to decide: I can get the Vsonic GR02 Bass for 31$ or the VSD1S for 40$ or the Xiaomi Pistons for 25$.
Is there anyone who owns these and could compare them for me?
Thanks in advance!
I own the GR07 which is supposedly a step up on the Vsonic line compared to the GR02. That said, the Pistons outclass the GR07 in sound quality and they cost half the price. People have already described the signature of the Pistons so I'm not going to.
post #354 of 2671

They don't outclass them, they have a different signature.

post #355 of 2671

Hi, 

 

My first post as a newbie.  Just wanted to let others know who ordered from the Ebay seller inshoes that I got my pair today (the rose gold brown version 2) that I ordered on 2/13.   It seems I received the genuine Piston IEM.  I checked the photos in this thread and the IEM sounds awesome right out of the box.  Also, I have no affiliation to inshoes nor have I ordered anything from them before.  

post #356 of 2671
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Originally Posted by quartertone View Post
 

They don't outclass them, they have a different signature.

Well, everyone who didn't order from Xiaomi direct may have a fake anyway, so you never know. lol

 

The ibuygou sounds the same though. Small changes since I removed the foam, but overall they are very similar sounding. I'll have to mod the new ones to tell.

post #357 of 2671
It's so funny how everyone was certain where to get legit ones and which ones are fake.... Then a few days later it changes again lol.
post #358 of 2671
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Originally Posted by loptimistk View Post

I ordered it through Amazon about a week ago and mine got shipped out from Hong Kong two days ago.

I also contacted the seller.  While what he said could be a complete BS, I thought I would still trust him this time.
Below is an excerpt from the exchanges I had with the seller.

---

Dear Customer, 

They are genuine. 

We will take 2-3 business days to process the order. Because the item is in Hong Kong, the shipment will take 7-16 business days to United States. Most of the customers receive the order around 7 business days. You may check the listing, condition note, or our policy for the detail. We will provide the tracking number once we shipped the item, so you may track it at 

http://app3.hongkongpost.com/CGI/mt/enquiry.jsp 
Or 
www.usps.com 

Please understand it may take 2-3 business days to update. If Amazon provides a ETA is a lot longer than us, please just ignore it, because we do not able to adjust Amazon shipping standard. 

Thank you so much 
Bestmatch 
I got a different response from them, they basically said that according to their supplier they were real pistons which didn't give me any sense of security. But once it arrives I'll be interested the verdict of whether these are real or not so please do keep us posted.
post #359 of 2671

This is my first time trying to review audio gear. I own both VSonic GR02BE (since July 2013) and Xiaomi Piston Gold (less 

than one month). I listen mostly at my Sandisk Clip Zip rockboxed.

 

I have listen far more the VSonic, clearly. I can say that they don't sound the same. GR02BE feels more cold in sound, 

it shows more mids and at the same volume it seems to sound a little louder. After I listen to the warm Piston, it takes a bit of time adjusting to the sound of the VSonic. Although I have the version with the 14 or so ear tips, I don't find them very comfortable, they do tend to fatigue after about 2 hours. I like the jack connector more on the GR02BE, as it's L shaped.

 

The Pistons are warmer and I guess more brighter. But I don't have too many hours on them and is possible that the sound is not yet settled down. It's more v-shaped than the GR02BE and the sound is clearer. The bass is a little more punchy and the soundstage is better. There is a remote and a mic and it works well with the mobile phone. I have a WP8 Samsung Ativ S and all the controls are working; volume up and down and also the middle button for play/pause, even when the phone is locked. I'm also liking the material covering the wire. The ear tips are very open and thin. I must confess I haven't used them alot and instead used VSonic and some older Sony tips. The sound from Piston does leak more at higher volumes than on GR02BE.

 

They differ is sound and I guess the Piston is a little more fun. But the GR02BE is a good IEM too. I guess the question is if you want a darker or a warmer sound.


Edited by kaitracid - 2/27/14 at 11:01pm
post #360 of 2671
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post
Small changes since I removed the foam

Ah, glad you found the change small too - some people have spoken of aural revelations, but after modding mine yesterday I found the 'tightening' to be pretty moderate.

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