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upgrading from bookshelf to tower speakers , is it worth it ?

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I currently have a pair of edifiers s2000v by Phil Jones 

 

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I've been thinking to upgrade to a pair of Onkyo  SKF-4800 ( I tried to find a way to use them in par with my edifiers but it would cost a ridiculous sum of  money to buy an audio receiver with pre amps

 

The Question here is it worth the upgrade , would i notice an improvement or shall i be disappointed ?

 

i got a bose sound dock a couple of weeks as a gift and i am really not that happy with the sound quality (plus a constant hissing sound when i have it on) ,hence i dont use them at all , so i really want to be careful about this upgrade 

 

 

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I currently have a pair of edifiers s2000v by Phil Jones 

 

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I've been thinking to upgrade to a pair of Onkyo  SKF-4800 ( I tried to find a way to use them in par with my edifiers but it would cost a ridiculous sum of  money to buy an audio receiver with pre amps

 

 

How is that even possible? In two channel audio you only need two speakers, left and right. How do you use four speakers? If it's for HT, you might as well just grab the matched standmounts to those floorstanders and use them as surrounds, instead of using those active speakers. They might not be as good, but in HT you can get away with cheaper surrounds as long as they're the same series as the mains.

 

 

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The Question here is it worth the upgrade , would i notice an improvement or shall i be disappointed ?

 

If you're thinking of just replacing the active desktop speakers with these, do you have a large enough room? The only guaranteed improvement will be the bass response, given the larger drivers (and two of them, one is probably a dedicated bass driver too) and enclosure. Past that, even if you upgrade to really good floorstanders, if you have a room where you can't sit at least 6ft from each speaker (plus enough space from the wall behind you and the speakers), what will happen is that the soundstage will not be coherent on the vertical axis. You will localize the bass notes as coming from below and the cymbals and other high frequencies coming from a higher plane than the others, due to the 3-driver design on this. By sitting farther back, and ideally still far from the rear wall, you reduce the difference in distance between your ears and each tweeter, midrange, and midwoofer to negligible levels, thus removing the timing errors.

 

Past that, having three drivers might mean they will require more power or more current out of whatever amp you'll use with them. If you have a local hi-fi club or something like Craigslist in your area, check if there are old British amps like NAD or Rotel for sale used for around $100. Some T-amps available on Amazon make more power for around $200 but I haven't listened to any of them, although I wouldn't discount their capabilities (and they're compact too).

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i guess my room wont handle those floor standers , thing is where i live i have very limited choices 

 

 

what would be the best positioning for my edifiers then , i have them about 90cm apart an i sit about a meter 20cm away  

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i guess my room wont handle those floor standers , thing is where i live i have very limited choices 

 

 

what would be the best positioning for my edifiers then , i have them about 90cm apart an i sit about a meter 20cm away  

 

Experiment, like try sitting further back and moving them away from the wall. It's difficult to recommend exactly how because we can't see what your room looks like, and being desktop use, you really are more limited with placement unless you try other mounting options.

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i've got a fairly big desk  and here's a picture 

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First thing to do is to get some small stands and raise those speakers off the desktop.

 

Can you put the PC case on the floor? Try and keep the right hand speaker away from the corner

post #8 of 14
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I put the case on the floor 

 

should i raise the speakers even if the tweeters are slightly above my ear level ?

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Yes. The reflections off the desk surface are not doing you any favours.

 

If the tweeters really are so high above your ear level then consider turning them sideways or getting a set those pads that angle the speakers (and put a couple heavy books or something underneath anyway). The important point is halfway between the centre of both cones. You might be able to raise the speakers up a bit and then angle them down slightly.

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I put the case on the floor 

 

should i raise the speakers even if the tweeters are slightly above my ear level ?

 

Yes. You are getting reflections from the right channel off the PC case. Keep both sides clear. What you're doing essentially is putting one speaker at a corner. And yes you should try raising it a little bit, or getting angled stands like these, as the dispersion pattern may cause to much soundwaves to bounce off the desk.

 

Now that should give you an idea why a lot of people use headphones :tongue_smile:

post #11 of 14
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you're right what a nightmare lol xD

 

actually i'm more pleased now with the case down and the speakers more spaced apart i put some old medical books underneath and angled them a bit more towards the center  , overall a better experience 

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you're right what a nightmare lol xD

actually i'm more pleased now with the case down and the speakers more spaced apart i put some old medical books underneath and angled them a bit more towards the center  , overall a better experience 

I use books in my home office for stands. If one has plenty of books, it's pretty easy to get the speakers at exactly the height that you want, and, if you have a few inches, the tightly stacked paper in books does a fine job of absorbing any speaker resonance instead of transferring it to your desk--certainly not worth spending money on the Aurelex Mopad or Audioengine DS1 speaker stands, unless for aesthetic reasons.

If you have an extra cloth mousepad to lay down on the left, that might help absorb some tweeter reflections from the left speaker if you are still getting any. Would do better than having the sound bounce off a hard surface. That's the worst case.
post #13 of 14
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^^

 

yes i could even wrap the books in dark cloth for aesthetic effects 

 

my 27 inch monitor received today made it even more challenging 

 

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my 27 inch monitor received today made it even more challenging 

I understand. I don't even have my speakers on my desktop. The desk is full with my dual monitors, and the speakers sit on furniture on the left and to the right, which are also different heights--thus the advantage of book stacking smily_headphones1.gif
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