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post #16 of 61

I can't any comparison of the 558 vs K612, or much vs the nicer ATH phones really. 

 

I'm really looking for the most comfortable phones I can get here, with sound quality and stage probably after that. 

post #17 of 61
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Originally Posted by Belial88 View Post

zzz... and hiw does the akg k612 compare to the 558? The bose and beats are great, I'm looking for best. How does it compare.

 

bose and beats are closed back headphones with far more emphasis in low end frequencies. but no where near any refinement comparing with ma900,X1,612pro.. if you appreciate boomy bass then you ll always disappoint with an open back headphone.

post #18 of 61

I'm not particularly for boomy bass. I mean everyone loves bass, but I'm not really making any judgements on sound profiles since I'm not experienced enough to know what I like. But yea that closed back is a problem, I want open stage. I think. I mean why wouldn't you want more stage. It sounds like a really cool and novel thing. 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR_sk6UiCKw

 

I tested this video which does stuff for stage, sounds way more dynamic in my evos than my crap logitech usb headset.

post #19 of 61

I think ma900 might be a great all rounder for you. fantastic soundstage and imagine and you can use it without an amp.

post #20 of 61

Well my Z87X-UD3H has a 600 ohm headphone amp, so I'm fine with phones that need an amp. My 681 evos are very loud at just 1/3rd sound level on it too. 

 

I can only find the MA900 for $200. A bit out of range, unless you are going to tell me it's twice as comfortable as the 558s.

post #21 of 61

get the alessandro ms1i . its a little bit warmer than the grados. i love my ms1i for metal \m/ 

post #22 of 61

I'd rock the 558 with the mod done on it.

post #23 of 61

It seems the biggest contenders are the 880, 990 (can be found for $150!), and some of the AKGs, Q701, K701, K612. 

 

Could anyone speak to the comfort, quality, and stage of these compared to the 558s? I can't find anything on it, people mostly say 598 vs them ;/

 

I think I want a deep headphone, as in the inner part is recessed deep so your ears dont touch them. On my evos I think I'm getting some fatigue after 2-3 hours because my ears barely touch the inside of them. I dont have particularly big ears.

post #24 of 61
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Originally Posted by Belial88 View Post

It seems the biggest contenders are the 880, 990 (can be found for $150!), and some of the AKGs, Q701, K701, K612. 

Could anyone speak to the comfort, quality, and stage of these compared to the 558s? I can't find anything on it, people mostly say 598 vs them ;/

I think I want a deep headphone, as in the inner part is recessed deep so your ears dont touch them. On my evos I think I'm getting some fatigue after 2-3 hours because my ears barely touch the inside of them. I dont have particularly big ears.

880,990 are few leagues above 558 and they are also sonically supperior than 598. l d easily recommended 880, ma900 comparing with 558,598.

btw akgs are picky with the dacs, l wouldn drive them directly with the pc.
post #25 of 61

Well the 990 is only $150, the 880 is usually $200+ so I think I'll go with the 990 > 880. 

 

If you could go into more detail I'd appreciate it, but threads like this seem to make the 558 > beyers, especially in comfort. I really cant find much on the MA900 but I hear a fear people say it's omg million times better etc etc.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/665379/hd-558-or-dt-990-pro-250-mainly-for-movies-and-gaming

 

I hear a lot of praise about the MA900, but worried becauseMad lust said it had really shallow cups 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envys-headphone-gaming-guide-updated-1-27-2014-monster-dna-pro-added-edits

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  As stated earlier, if you have a strong aversion against your ears touching any material, these may not be for you...Only those with a strong aversion to their ears touching any material may find them uncomfortable.
 
 
I mean wouldn't anyone find that uncomfortable? I don't particularly care, but I believe the 681 evo's are getting fatiguing and sore after 3+ hours is because they are on my ears a little bit.
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 btw akgs are picky with the dacs, l wouldn drive them directly with the pc.

I can always buy one down the line if it's necessary, they aren't that expensive. My Z87X-UD3H is ALC898 + 600 ohm headphone amp so should be fine. I mean the major part of an amp is just making high impedence phones be loud enough, right? In which case I expect them to be fine, my evo's are super loud on like 1/4th the loudness.

 

I'd rather buy headphones that needed an amp to sound good, but sound superior or are more comfortable, than headphones that dont need an amp. I mean I just have these headphones that would be 2nd best for like a month or two, until I could just find the time to beg on the street for money until I get $50. Not a big deal.

post #26 of 61
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Originally Posted by Belial88 View Post
 

Well the 990 is only $150, the 880 is usually $200+ so I think I'll go with the 990 > 880. 

 

If you could go into more detail I'd appreciate it, but threads like this seem to make the 558 > beyers, especially in comfort. I really cant find much on the MA900 but I hear a fear people say it's omg million times better etc etc.

 

 

558,and 598 has far less clamping force comparing to beyers (pro versions) and you might find little uncomfortable in the early days, but sound wise beyers are far superior cans and they heavily benefit from amping.

currently I have ma900 and they are far more comfortable because their clamping force is like non existing. but the pads are little shallow and your ears might touch the drives so slightly. but I don't find that uncomfortable at all. but that's just me. 

 

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Originally Posted by Belial88 View Post I mean the major part of an amp is just making high impedence phones be loud enough, right?

 

and there is also a term called "Synergy" which means the effect when combining audio components, as an example some headphones might sound some of their frequencies recessed etc with some dacs and some you ll find it musical.

post #27 of 61

Don't your ears get a bit sore after 3-5 hours of use being up against the drivers?

 

I don't find my evo's uncomfortable, my ears just get sore after 3+ hours and it's kinda obnoxious. It's better than the logitech usb headset i was using before that was supra-aural, that just straight up hurt after about 5 minutes. 

 

So are you saying the 558/598 is more comfortable, but beyers sound better? Is it noticeable, or only if you A/B them? 

 

So the MA900 is far more comfortable than both, but does it sound better in sq and stage? I hear they are neutral (neutral = balanced?).


Edited by Belial88 - 2/1/14 at 11:41pm
post #28 of 61

 DT880pro/990pro might be a safer solution for your genre preference (metal), specially I heard lots of positive impressions on dt990 with metal..  ma900 is a fantastic headphone for the price range but you might find it uninspiring for metal since its unenergetic high frequencies and its laid back sound signature. if you think Beyers look uncomfortable, you can just forget the Sennhesers and move on to akg 612pro (or q701) but be prepared to buy a decent dac with AKGs.

post #29 of 61

My preference is not metal. It is electronic 'electro' like Justice, Kavinsky, daft punk. I do listen to a lot of metal though, but not my preference.

 

I don't particularly think any of these phones are uncomfortable, I'm just unsure what's the most uncomfortable and is deep/avoids ear contact. 

 

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 , you can just forget the Sennhesers and move on to akg 612pro (or q701) but be prepared to buy a decent dac with AKGs.

 

Can you go more in-depth? Is the akg 612pro more comfortable? I really can't find much on it, i think it's new. I don't mind buying a headphone that needs a dac or whatever, I mean that just means it's only at 80% until I get that ~$50 item, not a big deal. I would rather have headphones that need an amp to sound their best at X price but is ultimately better, than one that doesn't (ofc you'd have to compare them both with dac vs dac if that's the case). 

 

Are they more comfy or sound better?

post #30 of 61
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Can you go more in-depth? Is the akg 612pro more comfortable? I really can't find much on it, i think it's new. I don't mind buying a headphone that needs a dac or whatever, I mean that just means it's only at 80% until I get that ~$50 item, not a big deal. I would rather have headphones that need an amp to sound their best at X price but is ultimately better, than one that doesn't (ofc you'd have to compare them both with dac vs dac if that's the case). 

 

Are they more comfy or sound better?

 

I think 612pros are really comfortable and sonically superior than hd598,ma900.  but the sound quality will greatly depend on the dac you are using.

 

 

P.S

you might find these comparisons useful

http://www.head-fi.org/t/685483/akg-k702-the-classic-vs-k612-pro-the-upstart-review-and-comparison

http://www.head-fi.org/t/691053/review-and-comparison-of-the-200-open-back-underdogs-the-akg-k612-pro-and-the-sony-mdr-ma900

http://www.head-fi.org/t/686083/sony-mdr-ma900-full-review-comparison-with-dt880


Edited by appsmarsterx - 2/2/14 at 1:10am
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