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post #256 of 270

Woooah. You guys have to listen to "Genenis" by Justice on these cans (the studio version, not live). I've never listened to something that crazy. I never heard before the crazy high pitched sounds (17KHz+) at the beginning and throughout the song. Those cans make this song shine, this is just insane! These are perfect for the super deep bass and super clear highs in that song. It can be a bit stressful at high volume though, you've been warned! :basshead:

post #257 of 270

I've read most of this thread pre- and post-selling my DT770s! I had a nice pair of 250ohms that were in the "Spring" of my headphone buying...I enjoyed them, and used them quite a lot but when push came to shove I sold them with some others when I had to justify a (watch) purchase.

 

I regret that.

 

Mostly, I disagree with using different cans with different genres of music. Usually, I say find the most neutral headphone and enjoy it all. Usually, this does work. I have upgraded and lived for a while with one headphone for open use, one for closed, a few different for different portable uses.

 

However, I've been listening to a lot of rock/metal in the last couple of months and remembering what the 770s were like and miss them. They're not the first word in neutrality but they're also not overly bloated in any area. What they do exaggerate (IMHO) is slam. Their attack is very, very hard...in fact the whole ADSR cycle is performed very quickly for a dynamic driver, which makes them perfect (again IMHO) for metal.

 

I would buy another pair specifically for metal if I could guarantee getting the same drivers I had before....I will test them with the first 10 seconds of Motorhead's "Overkill" first though.

post #258 of 270
Thread Starter 

Welcome to the club BigDisc!

post #259 of 270
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Originally Posted by Jamesy1969 View Post
 

I've read most of this thread pre- and post-selling my DT770s! I had a nice pair of 250ohms that were in the "Spring" of my headphone buying...I enjoyed them, and used them quite a lot but when push came to shove I sold them with some others when I had to justify a (watch) purchase.

 

I regret that.

 

Mostly, I disagree with using different cans with different genres of music. Usually, I say find the most neutral headphone and enjoy it all. Usually, this does work. I have upgraded and lived for a while with one headphone for open use, one for closed, a few different for different portable uses.

 

However, I've been listening to a lot of rock/metal in the last couple of months and remembering what the 770s were like and miss them. They're not the first word in neutrality but they're also not overly bloated in any area. What they do exaggerate (IMHO) is slam. Their attack is very, very hard...in fact the whole ADSR cycle is performed very quickly for a dynamic driver, which makes them perfect (again IMHO) for metal.

 

I would buy another pair specifically for metal if I could guarantee getting the same drivers I had before....I will test them with the first 10 seconds of Motorhead's "Overkill" first though.

 

Wait until you try AD2000 or SA5000.  =X

K702 is another little "speedster", though not quite like the other two.  600-ohm Beyers are the speediest of the brand, so long as you have a suitable amp for them that essentially more than doubles their price tag.

post #260 of 270
I've owned a couple of different versions of these cans and enjoyed their comfort and sound very much. I was just wondering how the 880 and 990's fair in comparison. Should they be seen as an upgrade. From thw limited amount that I've read it would seem some like the 880 but few see the 990 as an upgrade. Anyone wish to clarify?
post #261 of 270
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Originally Posted by lawrecedent View Post

I've owned a couple of different versions of these cans and enjoyed their comfort and sound very much. I was just wondering how the 880 and 990's fair in comparison. Should they be seen as an upgrade. From thw limited amount that I've read it would seem some like the 880 but few see the 990 as an upgrade. Anyone wish to clarify?


I have both the 990 and 770 250 ohms, I like them both, I consider them equal but different sound. The 770 being closed I use when not to bother my wife when see is reading. The 990 being open I use at my desk. these both our my go to headphones, I think the 990s are about finding the right amp. I use mine with the schitt modi vali combo and love them

post #262 of 270
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Originally Posted by spanner43 View Post


I have both the 990 and 770 250 ohms, I like them both, I consider them equal but different sound. The 770 being closed I use when not to bother my wife when see is reading. The 990 being open I use at my desk. these both our my go to headphones, I think the 990s are about finding the right amp. I use mine with the schitt modi vali combo and love them
Thanks for the info, I also have the Modi/Vali so might look to trying the 990's especially considering how cheaply they seem to go for on ebay these days. I must admit as time has gone by I find myself prefering my open cans over my closed cans. In fact the only pair of closed cans I've kept for home use are the AKG K550 which seem to mimic the sound of open cans anyway.
How do they compare soundwise to the dt770?
post #263 of 270
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by lawrecedent View Post

I've owned a couple of different versions of these cans and enjoyed their comfort and sound very much. I was just wondering how the 880 and 990's fair in comparison. Should they be seen as an upgrade. From thw limited amount that I've read it would seem some like the 880 but few see the 990 as an upgrade. Anyone wish to clarify?

 

I've owned all three cans and got rid of the 880's and the 990's. First I will start with the 880's:

 

880's 600ohm: I thought they were pretty decent but just a little muddy. I think it's due to the felt they put over the driver to tune the sound. And in my opinion they put too much of it. Also they have less bass than the 770's 250ohm. So that is why I prefered the 770's a little more bass and a lot more clarity. And if you find them a little bright you can put as much or as little felt or toilet paper to get it tuned just to one's liking.

 

990's 600ohm: I really didn't like these at all. Way too bright and no mids whatsoever. 770's 250ohm are a lot more neutral and musical than the 990's really no competition at all.

post #264 of 270
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Originally Posted by Matrixnobu View Post

I've owned all three cans and got rid of the 880's and the 990's. First I will start with the 880's:

880's 600ohm: I thought they were pretty decent but just a little muddy. I think it's due to the felt they put over the driver to tune the sound. And in my opinion they put too much of it. Also they have less bass than the 770's 250ohm. So that is why I prefered the 770's a little more bass and a lot more clarity. And if you find them a little bright you can put as much or as little felt or toilet paper to get it tuned just to one's liking.

990's 600ohm: I really didn't like these at all. Way too bright and no mids whatsoever. 770's 250ohm are a lot more neutral and musical than the 990's really no competition at all.

Interesting to hear the 770 seem to win out. They certainly seem to generate the most interest on auction sites. Its funny but I preferred the 80ohm version over the 250ohm versions of the 770's I tried which I didn't expect. However, at the time I was driving them with a Fiio e18 which might not have got the best out of them.
post #265 of 270
Thread Starter 

Yeah I didn't expect them to beat the more pricier Beyers either. And it was a friend that brought some to work that first opened my eyes to these relatively inexpensive headphones. I got mine for $164 US dollars at the time.

post #266 of 270
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Originally Posted by lawrecedent View Post


Thanks for the info, I also have the Modi/Vali so might look to trying the 990's especially considering how cheaply they seem to go for on ebay these days. I must admit as time has gone by I find myself prefering my open cans over my closed cans. In fact the only pair of closed cans I've kept for home use are the AKG K550 which seem to mimic the sound of open cans anyway.
How do they compare soundwise to the dt770?

In my humble opinion, the 770 definitely  have more base, I think of the 990s as more natural sounding, and I don't find them to bright at all. Maybe that has to do with my setup (modi/vali/foobar) or my ears. again I like both of these cans they are different sounding and I enjoy mixing it up.

post #267 of 270
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Originally Posted by spanner43 View Post

In my humble opinion, the 770 definitely  have more base, I think of the 990s as more natural sounding, and I don't find them to bright at all. Maybe that has to do with my setup (modi/vali/foobar) or my ears. again I like both of these cans they are different sounding and I enjoy mixing it up.
I also own Grado SR325is so I know I can enjoy a brighter sound signature. I haven't found anything terrible since starting to pay decent money for headphones in fairness. I'm just trying to work my way through all the major offerings by the major manufacturers in my quest.
post #268 of 270
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Originally Posted by Matrixnobu View Post
 

 

I've owned all three cans and got rid of the 880's and the 990's. First I will start with the 880's:

 

880's 600ohm: I thought they were pretty decent but just a little muddy. I think it's due to the felt they put over the driver to tune the sound. And in my opinion they put too much of it. Also they have less bass than the 770's 250ohm. So that is why I prefered the 770's a little more bass and a lot more clarity. And if you find them a little bright you can put as much or as little felt or toilet paper to get it tuned just to one's liking.

 

990's 600ohm: I really didn't like these at all. Way too bright and no mids whatsoever. 770's 250ohm are a lot more neutral and musical than the 990's really no competition at all.

 

That's exactly how I would describe the 250-ohm Beyers (except 770).  600-ohm versions are on a different level altogether, completely destroy the 250-ohm versions.  DT880-600 is particularly unforgiving and the most neutral of the bunch.  990-250 had flabby, excessively boosted bass, then the 600-ohm version has all the control and fidelity that the 250-ohm sorely lacks.  I especially hated 990-250's 700Hz-centered "Grand Canyon" and 5kHz-centered "Mt. Everest" in its frequency response as I heard them with a sine sweep.  No wonder they just ruined the music for me.

 

One of my current desktop amps can barely handle those 600-ohm monsters, though, best amp I had at the time was a Qinpu A3, but I don't like tube distortion.  I would have gladly kept DT990-600 otherwise, and DT880-600 felt pretty redundant, like an "overweight" and slightly lower fidelity K701 with extra bass and treble, otherwise I  would have kept that one as well.  With the wrong amplifier, the 600-ohm versions would become muddy and flabby, rather poor in sound versus my DT770-250.

post #269 of 270
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post #270 of 270

I have spent all my day comparing 80 and 250 ohm versions of these cans today along with DT990 (and different versions too, of course) and the more I looked into it, the more confused I got. Think I wll go with the 250 ohm version of the DT770. However, I am using Fiio E10k currently (eventually thinking of upgrading) and my questions is, would I be fine for a couple of months with it? I know E10k won't be able to drive 250 ohm version perfectly but how bad will it be?

 

Also, how audible is the difference between 80 and 250 ohm versions of DT770s? I do not have very sensitive ears and probably won't notice what I am missing if I go with 80 ohm version but still..

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