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post #8566 of 8579
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Originally Posted by PhilW View Post
 

 

Hugo definitely works with Note4 :-)

 

Great.  But do you need a "special" 3rd party player like USBAPP to play 24/192 files in NATIF (without downsampling)  or is the stock player OK ? 

post #8567 of 8579
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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post
 

 

 

 

Exactly ^^

 

We can't know how big the difference is that you're hearing. I'm willing to bet that the USB from the Mac is loaded with a noisy signal. From what you describe, that is also what I would expect interference to sound like. The iPad will be much quieter. The mac has so much going on, and just injects that right into the signal. Are you using the same USB cable for each application?

 

You can help by adding a good cable with good isolation from RF interference. You can also look into solutions like the Audiophileo, to help correct timing and reduce noise out of your Mac. 

 

Also, the upsampling on Onkyo... it wouldn't be helping really. Hugo does a better job by itself than trying to feed it upsampled on-the-fly music from a performance-limited iDevice. Especially if you're running EQ too. Feed it pure. 

 

 

Agreed, my Samsung S3 give better sounds in to Hugo than my MBPr as the later produce so much more noise

post #8568 of 8579
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Originally Posted by M Coupe View Post
 

I have tried onkyo player on iPad and iPod touch 5th gen and like the player.  However, it is no match for my mac pro, mac mini or my AK240 as source goes.  As mentioned, tons of variables matter. Important to check things like settings on amarra or audioirvana to make sure not up sampling and so forth.  Also, I think the onkyo player sounds better with the EQ off.  

 

Bottom line is that you could simply prefer the iPad or it may be something with your music or settings.  I would certainly go through your player settings to ensure something is not set incorrectly.  I believe Audio Asylum Digital Drive area has lots of tweaks to optimize your playback on your computer.  They have tips for mac/pc and pretty much all the players.  That is where I would start.

 

Good luck.

 

Thanks.

I'll take a look at the Audio Asylum Digital Drive.

I think it is not something with my music because I compare the Hugo to my CD player (which is, by itself, a very good piece of kit), but it might be something with the softwares settings.

 

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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post
 

 

 

 

Exactly ^^

 

We can't know how big the difference is that you're hearing. I'm willing to bet that the USB from the Mac is loaded with a noisy signal. From what you describe, that is also what I would expect interference to sound like. The iPad will be much quieter. The mac has so much going on, and just injects that right into the signal. Are you using the same USB cable for each application?

 

You can help by adding a good cable with good isolation from RF interference. You can also look into solutions like the Audiophileo, to help correct timing and reduce noise out of your Mac. 

 

Also, the upsampling on Onkyo... it wouldn't be helping really. Hugo does a better job by itself than trying to feed it upsampled on-the-fly music from a performance-limited iDevice. Especially if you're running EQ too. Feed it pure. 

 

Thanks.

I am using the same USB cable for both the iPad and the MBP.

It is the cable I got with the Hugo, which, I believe, is an entry level cable.

A good cable might be a game changer but why the MBP is more noisy? What's that noise?

 

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Originally Posted by ubs28 View Post
 

My UBS cables that are supplied with the Chord Hugo don't go all the way into the Chord Hugo? Is it supposed to be like that? Also the supplied UBS cables goes very difficult into my Macbook Pro.

 

It is the same here (might be by design).

 

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Originally Posted by Somphon View Post
 

 

 

Agreed, my Samsung S3 give better sounds in to Hugo than my MBPr as the later produce so much more noise

 

Interesting, I thought I'm the only one to have this issue.


Edited by Mr President - Today at 8:08 am
post #8569 of 8579

Hi folks,

 

This is for those who had an opportunity to test Hugo with AK240. I currently own ak240 and was wondering if I should pull the trigger and buy Hugo. I am not sure how much of an improvement we're talking here, but I am very curious. I use it only with IEMS such as K10 and TG 334. 


Edited by scorpio187 - Today at 8:40 am
post #8570 of 8579
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Originally Posted by Mr President View Post
 

I believe, is an entry level cable.

A good cable might be a game changer but why the MBP is more noisy? What's that noise?

 

 

 

This explains a little about what the Audiophileo does to your USB audio. 

 

The very short of it, is that cables are basically large antenna, which suck up all the signals of the stuff around it. Anything electrical is making electrical noise. It's in your main power lines, from your cell phone, the dimmable desk lamp, etc... EMI/RFI has a pretty considerable impact on USB audio digital streams. It can impact the timing of the stream, causing timing errors - or jitter - and other technical stuff... basically it ends up introducing issues that end up as different forms of distortion in your digital bits. 

 

And a laptop is sort of the ultimate epicenter of noise. You've got the mother board right there with all kinds of stuff on it - you are probably connecting other USB devices to other USB ports, sharing the bus controller, not to mention you have a wifi signal beaming in and processed nearby. All this wreaks havoc on your USB signal. USB was never intended for audio. Audio is streaming. USB was meant to have a client capable of correcting any timing errors before providing a certain function, thus timing pertaining to audio is a level that USB was never made to handle. But we buy fancy gear to try and make it work right anyway. Like an Audiophileo + PurePower battery pack - which supplies clean DC power to the device, eliminating the noise in your Alternating Current line - one source of noise.  Make sense?

 

 

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Originally Posted by scorpio187 View Post
 

Hi folks,

 

This is for those who had an opportunity to pair Hugo with AK240. I currently own ak240 and was wondering if I should pull the trigger and buy Hugo. I am not sure how much of an improvement we're talking here, but I am very curious. I use it only with IEMS such as K10 and TG 334. 

That's a subjective call my friend, and an expensive one at that! :p

 

I definitely prefer the Hugo, but I wouldn't own both. The sizes are what makes them more different than the sound. AK will be much more on-the-go friendly. I would think Hugo would be an excellent pairing with the rich 334, however. 

post #8571 of 8579

Thanks! A couple other folks here basically said the same, which is kinda bad as that will allow me to save up for something else now...Darn! The journey never ends. :rolleyes:

post #8572 of 8579
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Originally Posted by ubs28 View Post
 

My UBS cables that are supplied with the Chord Hugo don't go all the way into the Chord Hugo? Is it supposed to be like that? Also the supplied UBS cables goes very difficult into my Macbook Pro.


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post #8573 of 8579
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Originally Posted by ubs28 View Post

Is it supposed to be like that?

No. Can you be a little more specific? Or post some photos?

I hit submit on this about eight times when you first posted. It never went.
post #8574 of 8579
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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post


No. Can you be a little more specific? Or post some photos?

I hit submit on this about eight times when you first posted. It never went.

 

Below is a picture. The USB cable won't go down any further in the Chord Hugo.

 

 

post #8575 of 8579
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Originally Posted by ubs28 View Post
 

 

Below is a picture. The USB cable won't go down any further in the Chord Hugo.

 

 

I think the stock cable has the connector end purposefully extended(notice the longer connector than you typical connector?).  I've noticed this too when I first tried plugging it in.  

post #8576 of 8579
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Originally Posted by scorpio187 View Post
 

Thanks! A couple other folks here basically said the same, which is kinda bad as that will allow me to save up for something else now...Darn! The journey never ends. :rolleyes:


I think the HUGO improves the AK240 quite a bit.  I get better dynamics, bass, soundstage, an immersive experience when I use my HUGO.  However, it is a mess to try and carry on the go.  I tried for 2 trips and it was a pain.  I just received the HUGO case in black, although it is ugly, seems likely to fix the portability issue.  I am going to take it with me on a trip this week and we will see.  

 

Bottom line- if only for sound- Yes, I highly recommend the HUGO with the AK240.

 

For mobility/portability- Maybe with the HUGO case, otherwise probably not.  Unless  your sole function is to take it from one desk to another.

post #8577 of 8579
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Originally Posted by M Coupe View Post
 


I think the HUGO improves the AK240 quite a bit.  I get better dynamics, bass, soundstage, an immersive experience when I use my HUGO.  However, it is a mess to try and carry on the go.  I tried for 2 trips and it was a pain.  I just received the HUGO case in black, although it is ugly, seems likely to fix the portability issue.  I am going to take it with me on a trip this week and we will see.  

 

Bottom line- if only for sound- Yes, I highly recommend the HUGO with the AK240.

 

For mobility/portability- Maybe with the HUGO case, otherwise probably not.  Unless  your sole function is to take it from one desk to another.

That's a good point. Come to think of it, I think it's going to be a bit of a pain to carry it around. I suppose AK240 will do just fine.

post #8578 of 8579
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Originally Posted by Rob Watts View Post

Do this four times over, then repeat with the twisted bundles of four. 

Rob

Thanks so much for the reply, Rob. That definitely cleared things up! How do you divide up postive/negative? All blue to one and all red to the other?

Thanks again.
post #8579 of 8579
Just wanted to report that I have my Hugo setup to my speakers in a 12 x 10 x 9 room with French doors in the back... we're moving to another place soon and I happened to open the french doors yesterday that lead to another 20 x 20 x 9 space and bass got fuller on the Hugo. Now bass is perfect and I don't feel the bass is even a slightly thin at all whereas with the double french doors closed, I felt it was a tiny bit thin.
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