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Originally Posted by Somphon View Post
 

 

 

My Hugo is less than a month old... I hate surprises! :)

Mine too, I hate surprises when my barely month old purchase becomes obsolete lol

 

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Originally Posted by Super Pang View Post
 

Are there adapters on the market (like the one in the box) for helping RCA's fit? My Tellurium Q's won't have it. 

Quite happy with the sound using my Atlas cables mind you. I might just stick with them.


There is this gold plated adapter supplied within the box, 1 pc only which Im guessing mainly for the coaxial as the space for the coaxial socket is very tight.

 

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Originally Posted by SleepyOne View Post
 

 

Probably leather case for Hugo.

 

Hopefully so and not a new version of the Hugo.....

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@OK-Guy always say there are suprises but turn out no suprises.. LoL
I think its about time for me to tighten the belt for the new QBD (hopefully 2015 1Q!?!?)...SOURCE FIRST
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Originally Posted by OK-Guy View Post
 

 

the Chord Electronics team are on their way to drizzly sunny Suffolk(UK) for this weekends Hi-Fi Show in Ipswich.

 

Chord will be displaying their flagship Hi-Fi system along with the superb Hugo (looks like there maybe a little surprise).

 

I've been informed that there is a headphone section at 'Audio Show East, details from Signals the event organisers below:-

 

http://www.signals.uk.com/audioshoweast201.html

 

Headphones on the Chord Electronics stand:-

 

 

Audeze

Focal

HiFiman

Sennheiser

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Originally Posted by CosmicHolyGhost View Post

@OK-Guy always say there are suprises but turn out no suprises.. LoL
I think its about time for me to tighten the belt for the new QBD (hopefully 2015 1Q!?!?)...SOURCE FIRST

 

 

I do try to make it interestingly tease worthy for you guys... I need new products material to work with, have heart one day I'll announce the 'Big One'... :tongue_smile: 

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Originally Posted by obsidyen View Post
 

Philips Fidelio L2 sounds amazing with Hugo. I think it's the best portable headphone I've heard.

 

Trance sounds just wow... Sandstorm by Darude blew me away.

 

L2 is very neutral but has amazing sub-bass extension. I would strongly consider it for portable purpose, also for home because L2 is very very comfortable. It is semi-open.

 

Thanks for the tip re the Darude vid - I've been listening to a lot of Simon O'Shine with the Hugo/Fidelio X1 combination and it's fantastic. Seriously under-rated headphones - I'll track down the L2 the next time I'm in Bangkok assuming my dealer has them in stock.

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Originally Posted by CosmicHolyGhost View Post

@OK-Guy always say there are suprises but turn out no suprises.. LoL
I think its about time for me to tighten the belt for the new QBD (hopefully 2015 1Q!?!?)...SOURCE FIRST

Yes, THAT Dac should be a real landmark.

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Originally Posted by CosmicHolyGhost View Post

@OK-Guy always say there are suprises but turn out no suprises.. LoL
I think its about time for me to tighten the belt for the new QBD (hopefully 2015 1Q!?!?)...SOURCE FIRST

QBD? Whats that??? Sounds good and expensive? LOL!

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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

Oh, I didn't know the Hugo couldn't play DSD formats natively. Ah well, I uploaded a few videos showcasing the main LED indicators within the Hugo.
 

Nice video, but the sample rate on 176.4Khz is listed as 172.6 or something.  Other than that, good job.

 

BTW, the Hugo does input DSD natively.  DoP is indeed native, if you define native as no conversion to PCM.  The only direct (i.e no DoP) is ASIO.  Some Linux developers are working on ASIO for Linux, but for now all Linux implementations are DoP...which is still native in my book.  Now...what a DAC does to DSD internally is all over the board, just as it is with PCM.  But the industry common parlance is that if a DAC supports the DSD formats (DSF, DFF) as input then it is a DSD-capable DAC.  If it converts to PCM before it ever gets to the DAC section (aka early Astell Kern AK4xx series), or asks that your convert before giving it to the inputs (aka Berkeley Reference) then it is not DSD-capable.

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Must be an "Oldie" by now; I think that song came out 2000.....

 

It is but we all listen to "oldies". :) Don't we?

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Originally Posted by estreeter View Post
 

 

Thanks for the tip re the Darude vid - I've been listening to a lot of Simon O'Shine with the Hugo/Fidelio X1 combination and it's fantastic. Seriously under-rated headphones - I'll track down the L2 the next time I'm in Bangkok assuming my dealer has them in stock.

 

It's really cheap on Amazon Italy. I bought from there, almost half the price of Amazon Germany. I'll also buy X2.

 

I think Fidelio L2 will make me sell my HD650s, I found them to surpass HD650 in most ways except for vocals. And L2 is a bit less forgiving when it comes to poor recordings. I can't believe the price they're being sold, honestly. X2 will probably even be more amazing. Philips is doing a very respectable job. Selling great headphones at reasonable prices. It is even more respectable when you see many brands sell "same old" headphones with a bit more different tuning  or with different materials (such as Oppo's PM line) for very high prices. It's all because of Denon. When they sold D7000 for 999 USD at launch, other brands thought "Why don't we do that too? I mean audiophiles like to spend. Let's rip them off."

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Originally Posted by obsidyen View Post
 

 

It's really cheap on Amazon Italy. I bought from there, almost half the price of Amazon Germany. I'll also buy X2.

 

I think Fidelio L2 will make me sell my HD650s, I found them to surpass HD650 in most ways except for vocals. And L2 is a bit less forgiving when it comes to poor recordings. I can't believe the price they're being sold, honestly. X2 will probably even be more amazing. Philips is doing a very respectable job. Selling great headphones at reasonable prices. It is even more respectable when you see many brands sell "same old" headphones with a bit more different tuning  or with different materials (such as Oppo's PM line) for very high prices. It's all because of Denon. When they sold D7000 for 999 USD at launch, other brands thought "Why don't we do that too? I mean audiophiles like to spend. Let's rip them off."

 

It's also economies of scale - Philips is an industrial giant while Denon is just one part of D+M Holdings - not sure what their respective revenues are but I'm guessing Philips can ameloriate the money that goes into a new headhone a lot more effectively than Denon. I would also note that Philips arent newcomers to 2-channel audio even if the gear with their name on it is rarely featured in TAS or Stereophile.  Philips engineers have built some outstanding components that found their way into very expensive boutique DACs and CDPs - I'd love to see them get serious with 2-channel electronics the way Sony and TEAC have in recent years. 

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Originally Posted by estreeter View Post
 

 

It's also economies of scale - Philips is an industrial giant while Denon is just one part of D+M Holdings - not sure what their respective revenues are but I'm guessing Philips can ameloriate the money that goes into a new headhone a lot more effectively than Denon. I would also note that Philips arent newcomers to 2-channel audio even if the gear with their name on it is rarely featured in TAS or Stereophile.  Philips engineers have built some outstanding components that found their way into very expensive boutique DACs and CDPs - I'd love to see them get serious with 2-channel electronics the way Sony and TEAC have in recent years. 

 

Indeed, that'd be great. Philips dac chips were among the best sounding chips in 80s and 90s. They had that European sound signature.

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Originally Posted by ted_b View Post
 

Nice video, but the sample rate on 176.4Khz is listed as 172.6 or something.  Other than that, good job.

 

BTW, the Hugo does input DSD natively.  DoP is indeed native, if you define native as no conversion to PCM.  The only direct (i.e no DoP) is ASIO.  Some Linux developers are working on ASIO for Linux, but for now all Linux implementations are DoP...which is still native in my book.  Now...what a DAC does to DSD internally is all over the board, just as it is with PCM.  But the industry common parlance is that if a DAC supports the DSD formats (DSF, DFF) as input then it is a DSD-capable DAC.  If it converts to PCM before it ever gets to the DAC section (aka early Astell Kern AK4xx series), or asks that your convert before giving it to the inputs (aka Berkeley Reference) then it is not DSD-capable.

Then he is correct Ted. He said it does not PLAY DSD natively…just like CH Precision. They both accept the DSD data natively and thn converts it internally to PCM  in the Dac section. Even Rob is on record as saying he thinks his solution sounds better than native. i dont agree, but I see his logic and admire his conviction and follow through on this point.

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I'm a proud owner of a Chord Hugo. Actually on my second unit. I was lucky enough to get one of the latest versions with better power supply and larger RCA openings. I have to admit that I was very vocal about the design early on but after listening to the Hugo with my home system for the past 5 months, the sound is simply awesome for me. Helps me to forget about some of the case issues. Rob, thank you for creating an awesome unit! I would like to suggest a possible add-on device that Chord or somebody might be able to develop. I use my Hugo in my home setup period. I know it was designed to be mobile but I prefer my AK240 for travel. Because of this, I think it would be awesome if somebody created a Chord Hugo Cradle. Most portable units (Astell & Kern for instance) provide an optional cradle for easy home integration. If one were to develop a Hugo cradle, the opportunity to tackle all the hole sizing issues could be easily handled. Also an opportunity to have the Hugo automatically adjust the volume to MAX for line out by default? Maybe be able to provide some 12v trigger capabilities? I know Hugo was designed for portability and the QBD76 is their flagship home device but I have to believe there are many users out there that are in my boat. That of enjoying the Hugo in their home setup, needing a cradle and not being able to afford the QBD76 or simply not wanting to spend aprox. $7500. The cradle could be a $1K accessory that allows it to convert to more of a home unit with portable capabilities when removed from the cradle. It would also give Chord to provide solutions for all the supposed design issues people seem to have when using custom high end cables. Total investment would land the Hugo in the $3500 - $4000 range (well under the QBD76) and offer the best of both worlds, Home integration & Portable headphone amp/ DAC use. I have a few others suggestions for the cradle but would like to hear thoughts from others.
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So, I'm a happy Hugo owner for about 3 weeks. As a Chord "faithful" having recently upgraded from the QuteHD, I admire the technology and the sound. The only unhappiness is the whole cabling issue. Having a more recent unit, rca interconnects were not an issue. Its the USB. My dealer loaned me an AudioQuest Cinammon usb cable. I liked the sound coming out of this, but my only major complaint is that the micro usb doesn't fit tightly. The slightest nudge disconnects the device and then my computer can't recognize - very frustrating. I've seen the graphic pictures of usb butchery and not wanting to go down this road, I ordered the USB "B" to micro audioquest adapter. Gleefully plugging in my much more expensive Cardas Clear cable and anticipating further sonic delights, I was vastly disappointed by the sound quality. My statistically insignificant sample revealed that the adaptor deteriorates the sound. Now I'm in the market for a different cable. Having seen that Paul Pang produces a worthy cable, is anyone familiar with any other cost effective choices in the micro usb vein? Not wanting to dredge through 525 pages, I would appreciate any further advice on this. At the risk of being shunned by the ueber faithful Chordites, I posit the opinion that Chord erred in not thinking about the availability of true audiophile grade cables to fit their brainchild. The build it and they will come ideology, doesn't seem to be inspiring resolution of this issue. Indeed, I called audioquest and alerted them to my misfortune and their customer service people are not even aware of the issue. Must be low on their hierarchy or world issues next to genocide and world hunger. 

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