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the original Mini Cooper S was a awesome little car... the present version by BMW misses the mark imo due to it's size, it's no longer a miniature car.

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yes i agree . mine is a 2006 cooper s witttth factory cooper works and a cconvertible . its small but not as small as the old ones are. the one i hhave is still much smaller then the new ones are though.
al
post #4998 of 14249
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Originally Posted by OK-Guy View Post

view the Hugo as a fit, hot blonde... you have to mount it to get a great sound... wink_face.gif

lmao.
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the original Mini Cooper S was a awesome little car... the present version by BMW misses the mark imo due to it's size, it's no longer a miniature car.

How about a Lotus Elise?

 

If using iPod to feed Hugo, will it still sound very good?  Any change to sound signature with different DAP feeding it?

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The hugo willbe goign into my main system shortly also. I have a new amplifier coming very shortly  and want to make sure  I get the best out of my digital system. The new amp is a pure reference SET.

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How is M7 compare to Hugo (assuming feed by same source, such as ak240), particularly in the texture of instrument (and vocal) and timbre presentation?

Thanks

 

This is a tough one. They are very close, but the M7 is a bit more dependant on input quality I feel. Likely in a speaker systems the differences would be more apparent too. I'll write up a review soonish. I want to take the Hugo into the local hi-fi store that has a lot of Chord gear and compare it to the QBD76 too though.

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Sorry guys, but I think some of this belongs in a chat room rather than a thread that is already pushing 350 pages - just sayin'. 

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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

yes i agree . mine is a 2006 cooper s witttth factory cooper works and a cconvertible . its small but not as small as the old ones are. the one i hhave is still much smaller then the new ones are though.
al

 

Al... you still got a great car despite it's extraordinarily large bulk, no wonder it needs a supercharger... :veryevil:

 

Flyme... the Elise is a great car but the purest will always hark back to the Elan... the little mini was more fun you could do stupid stuff with it that no other car could do, mad days back when... :tongue_smile:

 

I digress back to Mr Hugo.


Edited by OK-Guy - 6/17/14 at 7:36am
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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post
 

Here's the review in Stereo.net.au: http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/index.php?/topic/64249-chord-hugo-gets-the-dac-crack-and-sack-treatment/

 

@SearchOfSub It is very much going to depend on the system it is set up in.  I've auditioned, for example, an Esoteric K01 in multiple systems and in each it was often either too clinical or wonderfully clear. 

 

I liken the Hugo to the DAC equivalent of a good SET amp. They can be lively, detailed and very enjoyable to listen with, but their character is apparent when you start comparing them to other amps.

 

I imagine some combination of the mathematical algorithms used in the FPGA along with the bitstream DAC are responsible for the more unusual presentation. 


The link in my view - and thanks for it - has limited use. The writer is obviously unaware that the Spartan-6 provides no conversion function, and is not the pulse array DAC, but mostly has a role in FIR, the filtering scheme. I cannot tell or even comment on whether or not the DS uses the Spartan in a similar scheme or what differences in programming are used. It is entirely possible that the two manufacturers use these FPGAs in an entirely different fashion. All I can add to this is that one manufacturer has been at it for two decades and possibly has a great deal of experience with the utilization of these kinds of chips and their applications in various circuits.

 

The presentation as you say, is interesting, however it is impossible to determine what alone, or in combination with other design factors, are responsible. The presentation is organic, as opposed to what i hear with most DACs, artificial. And often clearer too. And yes Currawong, there are very audible differences.

 

I hate to use the word "analog" or compliment a very successful digital product with characteristics it does not have. Analog-sounding in some minds means something they are familiar with, faults and all, and usually prefer. The potential of digital, the technology of which has improved by leaps and bounds recently, as well as our understanding of it, in many respects can, and arguably already has, surpassed all the good traits of analog with few if any of the bad ones.

 

Clarifying these issues may be helpful.


Edited by AGB100 - 6/17/14 at 10:00am
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errr this is the Hugo thread.


Correct, and my question relates to the "They" who commented about the Hugo. What is the problem?

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I think AGB100 was 100% correct in asking for the source of the earlier claims, regardless of which thread we're in. So easy to throw claims like that out there without referencing the source(s) of those claims and its astounding how quickly anything even remotely sensational makes its way into another thread here, particularly with an incredible FOTM component (for now, that's what it is) like the Hugo. 


Thank you estreeter!

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Re "I did a quick final listen to the AK240. What shame as it's dull in a comparison to the Hugo"

My experience is very different. AK240 sounds great, AK240 sounds even better when combined with Hugo, most probably due to using a better DAC.

Hugo alone in contrast is the worst as it produces no sound at all :-)

So my personal ranking is AK240+Hugo being the best, next is AK240 and the worst is Hugo alone without a source.


The AK240 with Hugo does not come close to the Hugo with Mac+Fidelia+FHX at half the cost of the AK240. Not even close! No DAP will.

 

To understand what the Hugo can do you need to follow the above suggestion and then listen to a DAP and Hugo. It'll be good, but you will find so much missing that you will, at least at home or the desktop, return to the Mac-iZotope-based solution. That is my very arrogant opinion. :)

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ahaaa alpha-male syndrome.

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The AK240 with Hugo does not come close to the Hugo with Mac+Fidelia+FHX at half the cost of the AK240. Not even close! No DAP will.

To understand what the Hugo can do you need to follow the above suggestion and then listen to a DAP and Hugo. It'll be good, but you will find so much missing that you will, at least at home or the desktop, return to the Mac-iZotope-based solution. That is my very arrogant opinion. smily_headphones1.gif

I don't know but have no reason to doubt you. At least it's a fair comparison.

Comparing DAP with a headphone DAC/Amp is just strange.
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Hahahaha. Well who ever you guys are hunting for
It's not me. Anyway the iphone 5 as transport
Works very good
So good it's like a CPU in your pocket.
Al
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