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post #4591 of 14205
A page or so back I posted a picture .,
The devices were the following. The hibino HDP r10 , the hdvd800 as amp and dac , the AK240 , chord Hugo and mytek stereo 192 . Ps audio direct stream
All we're used wit the hdvd800 as an amp and the hd800 headphones. What you just said is what I mean. Also
I have had about 4 lampi,s to,listen too one was tunned in this manner for someone . It changed the tone of the instruments .
Al
Edited by ALRAINBOW - 6/12/14 at 7:14am
post #4592 of 14205
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

A page or so back I posted a picture .,
The devices were the following. The hibino HDP r10 , the hdvd800 as amp and dac , the AK240 , chord Hugo and mytek stereo 192 . Ps audio direct stream
All we're used wit the hdvd800 as an amp and the hd800 headphones. What you just said is what I mean. Also
I have had about 4 lampi,s to,listen too one was tunned in this manner for someone . It changed the tone of the instruments .
Al

Noted and thanks

post #4593 of 14205
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Originally Posted by rgs9200m View Post
 

Sorry about wading thru the thread, but what USB cables are Hugo owners using? I have an Audioquest Carbon now that I like with my Meridian Direct.

 

Vertere USB A <> Micro.

post #4594 of 14205
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Originally Posted by ted_b View Post

I, too, am also surprised by Al's "bright" comments, as all who have heard mine (including me) would say they are most impressed with its organic, wet, timbre-rich musicality, combined with a sense of timing and attention to the smallest detail.  If I had to put it on the neutral curve I'd tend to vote south of neutral (i.e warm, but that denotes rolled-off to some people, which it isn't).  But "bright" is the adjective I would never have used with the Hugo, unless it is driving a transducer too hard...(which in my case was my preamp input for the first couple of days before I got a handle on gain)...but then my adjective would be "harsh" not bright.  And this in a system that can very easily become too analytical or north-of-neutral if I don't watch it.

It proves one thing: we all have different ears.  smily_headphones1.gif   Viva la difference!

P.S.  And yes, I use female vocals for this eval as well, including Cassandra Wilson, Eva Cassidy, Rickie Lee Jones, Margot Timmins (Cowboy Junkies), Imogen Heap, Suzanne Vega, Julie London, Jacintha, etc.

To demonstrate the most stunning transformation of sound quality using Hugo? Try the carpenter singles album dsd tracks. And the George Michael's Symphonica flacs.
post #4595 of 14205
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

As my explaining stinks and this is all about opinions anyway , however you have a mytek right , a direct stream right . And any ore dac you have. . Are you saying the overall tone is the same .
Al

Al,

If this question was intended for me (not sure it was, there is no trail or quote) then absolutely no, the tone of the Hugo is nowhere the same as my Myteks or my 200 hrs early Directstream impressions. 

post #4596 of 14205
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Originally Posted by Lornecherry View Post

..well said. The key is to evaluate Hugo against what ever else you are considering and forget about the value of the Hugo for a while (not easy to do). Value is a great yardstick; until something better comes along...and I see more than a few Hugos being traded in when Rob finishes the successor to the QB76 DSD...might just be a while, as the Hugo is a tough little act to follow.

Thanks.
Yes, some Hugo's will definetly be up for sale when Rob finishes a new desktop flagship with all the best of Hugo implemented (or bettered) and with everything else of great quality that it wasn't room for in Hugo's small casing, to improve things even more.. a dual FPGA implementation maybe for even more 'taps'? wink.gif

But.. that will also be a great moment for just as many people that wants top quality on the go (or great quality in a stationary rig of course, as the Hugo will not sound worse if a better thing comes along). smily_headphones1.gif

My guess is that nothing will touch the Hugo in a while in the portable market. The gap is in my opinion too big considering the price and all, but I hope that the competitors will catch up as it would be better for all of us. And when that happens we will get the Hugo II. biggrin.gif

I'm not sure how long thing takes.. but Rob is doing listening tests these days, so it might be pretty soon that a new DAC or more shows up. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. smily_headphones1.gif
post #4597 of 14205
It was and your answer is giid enough.
I think I just say too much some times.
And I am better off just reading and listening
I seem to get fought up to often.
Anyway thanks for replying and I look forward to your reviews
And thoughts.
Al
post #4598 of 14205
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Originally Posted by PhilW View Post
 

 

Vertere USB A <> Micro.

+1

 

I have the Vertere Acoustics D-Fi V2 USB Cable (USB A to Micro USB) and I am pleased with it. I have the 1m cable as I like the flexibility to use my iPad Mini Retina while listening to music or watching films.

post #4599 of 14205
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Originally Posted by estreeter View Post
 

OK, so I go to a bar last night and eight or nine pages are magically added to this thread .......... way to make a mild hangover that much more annoying guys  ;)

 

@AGB100 - I wasnt clear earlier, but I didnt use your parametic EQ settings for either headphone when I ran my Fidelia experiments - I'm thick, but I'm not that thick. I completely get that the LCD-X and HD800 have different frequency curves but it would have been one more variable to take into account when I tried to do my comparisons with 'vanilla' Decibel. This wasnt simply about trying to see whether the Taurus was an extra box I dont need, it was also my chance to see if I should buy Fidelia - I still have over a week on the demo and I'm still listening : it's all good. 


Good to hear estreeter. It takes time to get the hang of it, so don't get hung up on anything, just hang in there!

post #4600 of 14205
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Originally Posted by estreeter View Post
 

I'd love to hear that Big7 but at over 10K USD with the DSD engine, it might as well be a Ferrari - the Hugo is a lot closer to the real world I'm forced to live in. 

 

 

You can pick one up around $8,000 w/ active volume control right now. Was looking to spend about 5K to preamp/dac so I might just save up another few months and get the BIG 7.

Just had a iFi iTube delivered yesterday and its pretty good for the price so It might just hold me off until the BIG 7.

post #4601 of 14205
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

Hello for now I just wanted to do a fair comparison for myself . There is fierce opinions in all,this . It's the dap , Hugo wars . I will do several comparisons. Over the next week or so.
The only thing i say so far is what I said the time I did a comparison with any of the daps or dacs I own. The hugo is nice but voiced pitched a little bright and it's just my old 57 year old ears I know . But it's what I hear .
The next thing is if anyone is intending on buying a dap or a hugo like device please demo with a good pair of headphones . Iems, just do tell the whole tail and speakers would be even better .
Next good idea is play both PCM and dsd and music you know very well. This stuff is all very good and only with some kind of method can anyone or at least me pick a winner .
Al


Not your ears Al, maybe you're listening with the 800 which is "voiced pitched a little bright" - something I've been suggesting for a while. Maybe it's just my ears, but I am sensitive to brightness - not the same thing as upper frequency delicacy and detail.

post #4602 of 14205
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Originally Posted by tupac0306 View Post

Ohh yeah...it sounds so good;) Been A/Bing my Anedio D2 since yesterday wink.gif Definitely one of the best I have ever heard! 

Proper impressions later;)

I am so looking forward to your impressions, and especially with your K10's. smily_headphones1.gif
post #4603 of 14205

I would agree that the Hugo's presentation is more 'upfront' than my Taurus - I guess to some that could be interpreted as 'bright' particularly with the HD800. Currently listening to Adele's 'Someone Like You' - I'd be surprised if 90% of this thread aren't familiar with the track - with the LCD-X and I definitely want less volume than I do with Tracey Chapman and other female vocalists.

post #4604 of 14205
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Originally Posted by harmonix View Post
 

You guys do realize that Metiner is the guy who practically invented DSD right?? 

 

Please provide a source for claims like that in future. I would also point out that we have no idea what the corporations did with the 'pioneering' technology - I've worked on codebases where there is very little left of the original code, a great deal of which was written under duress in the early hours of the morning - just saying. No idea how much of this is hardware and how much is software, but given that it all seems to fit on a single chip now that would seem to be a moot point. 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Stream_Digital

 

Direct-Stream Digital (DSD) is the trademark name used by Sony and Philips for their system of digitally recreating audible signals for the Super Audio CD (SACD). Practical DSD conversion was pioneered[peacock term] by Andreas Koch and Ed Meitner of EMM Labs. Koch and Jonathan Tinn later founded Playback Designs, which pioneered[peacock term] the transfer of DSD files over USB connections.[1] DSD technology was later developed and commercialized by Sony and Philips. Philips later sold its DSD tool division to Sonic Studio, LLC in 2005 for further development.

post #4605 of 14205
The hd800 are not bright they are detailed as the stax 009 is even more detailed at the sake of note thickness . Meaning the stax are thinner. And even if they were brighter if you comaore one dac to another it does not matter as it's still a comparison. In the end I am the in,y one that cares anyway I post my comments to help . Some say they change the wired on a headphone and hear extriodery change , so who a into say they wrong. It's game to get some people to admit what they hear anyway. My issue is I say what I hear and not what every wants to hear. Very few people here know what I have as most post comments on there ten mins at show or audio store. I appear to be linguistically challenged lmao so this translates into what did he mean. ???
I did give a simple way to show what I said ln did anyone do what I said most likely no or will,not say it. I could be wrong too but I do not know how as I did have a plan .
Anyway let's enjoy our Hugo as it's way better than a ak240 either way . The begonias a step above the ak120 but not like a Hugo. We need a flag for the Hugo and maybe a chant too.
Al
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