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post #4546 of 15017
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Originally Posted by nOtEcH View Post


I am very sorry for you! Actually.. I'm not.. you will have a great time with your Hugo, and for a very long time.
You will not be dissapointed. And I guess you will thank us for convincing you, and Chord and Rob for putting this great little fellow on the market. smily_headphones1.gif

Cannot agree with you Notech on this quote...my current modestly priced Meitner MA1 (feed by MacBook Pro or AK240) SQ performance similar to my previously owned Linn CD12...can't beat technology. 

post #4547 of 15017
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Originally Posted by jamato8 View Post
 

Exactly and the reason I no longer care if I get hires. I have CD rips that sound beautiful and if they sound that way for the instant they hit my ear drum and are gone, how much more do I need? I have 1000's of CD waiting to be ripped in storage and can't wait. I want to rip them and then most likely will only get a few dollars each for them but I no long wish to keep them except for the few collectables I have. Rip them, put them on two different or more hard drives, as I always back up, and move on the having fun with the music. I even played some old MP3, that I normally never touch and they sounded really very good. Just too cool. 

I'm doing exactly the same thing. CHeers

post #4548 of 15017

I have a question: When playing back DSD files in Audionirvana Mac or on Onkyo Player on iPod, both programs report DSD playback but the light is not really white. It's more light bluish-green. Audionirvana specifically says the DAC is in 64bit DSD mode. Onkyo Player is set to DoP for DSD playback. 

The sound is really good, subtly but distinctly better than the same file converted using Korg Audiogate to 88.2/24 flac.

TIA


Edited by Sam Edwards - 6/11/14 at 10:58pm
post #4549 of 15017
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Originally Posted by SearchOfSub View Post

Hmm.. AL saying its a little bright got me worried a bit..was so close to pulling the trigger too.

 

Right, so a Head-Fier who seems to be swapping gear on a minute-by-minute basis finds the Hugo 'bright' and you are prepared to ignore the hundreds of positive impressions which preceded that post ? The Hugo most definitely isnt 'bright' with the right cans and Al has given us no context - recordings or headphones - by which to gauge that assertion. He has made it clear that he prefers a competing DAC, albeit one that is more expensive - horses for courses, but the idea that you've given up based on that strikes me as more than a touch premature. 

post #4550 of 15017
Solid state anything gets a bit bright at higher volumes to my ears so I believe what AL says. On top of it, I am using it for 2 channel dac, so it will be worse in a 13x 12 room with 80% hardwood. To top it off, its going to run on AMT tweeters not dome which have history have being a bit brighter than domes to begin with.

Maybe I am just trying to convince myself to go Lampi and tubes.. Big 7 got the best of me.
Edited by SearchOfSub - 6/11/14 at 11:21pm
post #4551 of 15017

I'd love to hear that Big7 but at over 10K USD with the DSD engine, it might as well be a Ferrari - the Hugo is a lot closer to the real world I'm forced to live in. 

post #4552 of 15017
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Originally Posted by SearchOfSub View Post

Solid state anything gets a bit bright at higher volumes to my ears so I believe what AL says. On top of it, I am using it for 2 channel dac, so it will be worse in a 13x 12 room with 80% hardwood. To top it off, its going to run on AMT tweeters not dome which have history have being a bit brighter than domes to begin with.

Maybe I am just trying to convince myself to go Lampi and tubes.. Big 7 got the best of me.

I am very sensitive to 'bright' too.. but the Hugo isn't bright IMO. I can listen to it for hours. That is not possible for me to do with 'bright' stuff.
post #4553 of 15017
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Originally Posted by flymetothemoon View Post

Cannot agree with you Notech on this quote...my current modestly priced Meitner MA1 (feed by MacBook Pro or AK240) SQ performance similar to my previously owned Linn CD12...can't beat technology. 

I'm not sure i follow? Or maybe I do if you ment to say "Cannot agree with you more Notech"? wink.gif

I have an Linn Akurate DS/1 with Dynamik powersupply upgrade, that is said to better the CD12 (stated by Linn). I consider the Hugo to be a better preformer than my Linn. I enjoy the Hugo more.


The Meitner MA1 is priced $7000 and as you say with a similar preformance to the Linn CD12.
Then I would consider the Hugo to be a great bargin.

And with the time span in mind.. the CD12 was introduced to the market in 1997 and you have the the Meitner MA1 today.. that is 17 years of similar preformance and should be 17 years of similar enjoyment?

So my guess that the Hugo could be enjoyed for a long time as it is a great preformer. Most people wouldn't miss a thing. I don't as I really enjoy music with this little device. My AURALiC Taurus and Linn Akurate DS are just collecting dust at the moment.. not saying that they are bad or anything.. it is just that I don't miss a thing while using the Hugo..
post #4554 of 15017
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Originally Posted by estreeter View Post
 

I'd love to hear that Big7 but at over 10K USD with the DSD engine, it might as well be a Ferrari - the Hugo is a lot closer to the real world I'm forced to live in. 


They have new Amber Lampizator.  No idea if it will compare well with Hugo, but pricing around the same if not cheaper.  Only Euro Voltage model available right now, but US power version coming soon.

post #4555 of 15017
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Originally Posted by nOtEcH View Post


I'm not sure i follow? Or maybe I do if you ment to say "Cannot agree with you more Notech"? wink.gif

I have an Linn Akurate DS/1 with Dynamik powersupply upgrade, that is said to better the CD12 (stated by Linn). I consider the Hugo to be a better preformer than my Linn. I enjoy the Hugo more.


The Meitner MA1 is priced $7000 and as you say with a similar preformance to the Linn CD12.
Then I would consider the Hugo to be a great bargin.

And with the time span in mind.. the CD12 was introduced to the market in 1997 and you have the the Meitner MA1 today.. that is 17 years of similar preformance and should be 17 years of similar enjoyment?

So my guess that the Hugo could be enjoyed for a long time as it is a great preformer. Most people wouldn't miss a thing. I don't as I really enjoy music with this little device. My AURALiC Taurus and Linn Akurate DS are just collecting dust at the moment.. not saying that they are bad or anything.. it is just that I don't miss a thing while using the Hugo..

Hi Notech,

 

What I mean "cannot agree with you" means that in this high speed technology advancement world that time will obsolete electronics, in particular digital related equipments (like DAC)...and that's why I can't agree with you that the Hugo can last a "long long time".  

 

Probably I was lucky when I bought my Meitner MA1 two years ago @US$4,400 in a shop in Guangzhou (to which where I live and work), China.  Comparing to the Linn CD12 that I purchased while in Shanghai in 2003 (the 24 bit version of CD12), I paid US$17,500.  Comparatively, MA1 is a super bargain in consideration to the price I paid (even to the Hugo probably, to which I have not heard).  

 

On similar performance (fellow headfier please bear with me a bit off topic), as my current system is only 1/4 of the price vs. the old one that Linn CD12 was feeding to and that gives the context of similar performance.  Current system can be seen on my signature.  Past system : Linn CD12; Jadis JPS2S Pre; Jadis JA100 (Monoblock); Venture La Precision; PS Audio Powerplant : 2x PS600, 1xPS300. 

 

I bet Hugo would be very capable as the devise is newer than the MA1 and I'm in cross road on whether getting it or not.

 

Cheers

post #4556 of 15017

the Hugo being a bit bright really doesn't come at a shock to me as it really is an intelligent piece of kit.

post #4557 of 15017
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Originally Posted by flymetothemoon View Post
 

Hi Notech,

 

What I mean "cannot agree with you" means that in this high speed technology advancement world that time will obsolete electronics, in particular digital related equipments (like DAC)...and that's why I can't agree with you that the Hugo can last a "long long time".  

 

Probably I was lucky when I bought my Meitner MA1 two years ago @US$4,400 in a shop in Guangzhou (to which where I live and work), China.  Comparing to the Linn CD12 that I purchased while in Shanghai in 2003 (the 24 bit version of CD12), I paid US$17,500.  Comparatively, MA1 is a super bargain in consideration to the price I paid (even to the Hugo probably, to which I have not heard).  

 

On similar performance (fellow headfier please bear with me a bit off topic), as my current system is only 1/4 of the price vs. the old one that Linn CD12 was feeding to and that gives the context of similar performance.  Current system can be seen on my signature.  Past system : Linn CD12; Jadis JPS2S Pre; Jadis JA100 (Monoblock); Venture La Precision; PS Audio Powerplant : 2x PS600, 1xPS300. 

 

I bet Hugo would be very capable as the devise is newer than the MA1 and I'm in cross road on whether getting it or not.

 

Cheers

I thought that it might be something like that.. but I would consider 17 years of similar performance / enjoyment quite a long time in the world of audio.

 

I have noticed the same.. you can get a lot better result with less money today than a few years ago. Yet.. even though the very best stuff you can get on the market is remarkably good, things at the very top in my opinion doesn't improve revolutionary from year to year.

 

 

I am seeing this curve (simplified of course.. with time on the x-axis and performance for "audio devices" on the y-axis):

 

y

|                                                                                  -

|                                                  -

|                               -

|                  -

|           -

|       -

|    -

|  -

|-


> x

 

 

And since I don't miss much from my more expensive stuff while using the Hugo, my conclusion stands.. I guess that I can enjoy the Hugo for quite a long time. I'm not saying that the AURALiC Taurus or the Linn Akurate DS is bad.. I have actually enjoyed the combo for quite some time.. it is just that I do enjoy the Hugo more.

 

(Some have claimed that the Taurus make the Hugo experience even better, but I haven't tried it yet.. as I said.. I don't miss anything while listening to the Hugo alone, even though I may afterwards if I tried the Taurus - Hugo combo)

 

 

I can understand where you are coming from, as I have always wanted "the very best" myself.

 

The thing is.. that the Hugo is so good that most people could settle with it, and that is a remarkable achievement for a portable device. And I consider that a revolutionary step in the portable market, as it can be compared to desktop rigs even though there may be better stand alone desktop DAC and amp rigs out there.

 

 

I can't say that the Hugo is better than the Meitner MA1 as I have never heard it, but from what you are saying the Hugo is a great bargain even if you would consider the Meitner MA1 to be better.

 

Having said that.. you will get a great product if you decide to go for the Hugo. And if you have portability in mind (in the house or out and about), I wouldn't hesitate to try the Hugo at all. As you surely will enjoy it for a long time! " src="http://files.head-fi.org/images/smilies/wink.gif" /> 



Edit: I might eat some of my words when Rob puts together a new top of the line desktop DAC and show it to the world, but even though it should be an revolutionary improvement I could still enjoy the quality of Hugo as it is, as it has reached a "certain level" and is enjoyable no matter what.
Edited by nOtEcH - 6/12/14 at 5:41am
post #4558 of 15017
Ok so I will,explain what most here hear but do not understand me or there own ears.
I do not care what , iem , headphone or speaker you use for this test. It shows the same anyway it's done.
Find a dsd or com with a female vocal. And play it on the Hugo , now play the same song on any dac you own
The voice will,sound deeper as the Hugo makes the girl sound higher in pitch . It also effect where she is singing from . As this brings her closer to the front row. Now once you get to understand this it becomes obvious the rest of the instruments and vocals are all effected by the tonL change. Why no one says this is beyond my understanding but if we do it as I am saying you must hear it too. It's not a bad thing in fact it's one of the reasons the Hugo sounds so good. By doing what I hear it increases the staging and clarity. It does make the Hugo sound a little thinner than the direct stream as well
I won a hugo it is my every day commute device with my iems, and iPhone. I am not crazy and I do not care how many people here say I am wrong do the test as I say and post .
Al
post #4559 of 15017
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Originally Posted by OK-Guy View Post
 

the Hugo being a bit bright really doesn't come at a shock to me as it really is an intelligent piece of kit.

Hehe.. your making jokes today? :bigsmile_face:

post #4560 of 15017
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

Ok so I will,explain what most here hear but do not understand me or there own ears.
I do not care what , iem , headphone or speaker you use for this test. It shows the same anyway it's done.
Find a dsd or com with a female vocal. And play it on the Hugo , now play the same song on any dac you own
The voice will,sound deeper as the Hugo makes the girl sound higher in pitch . It also effect where she is singing from . As this brings her closer to the front row. Now once you get to understand this it becomes obvious the rest of the instruments and vocals are all effected by the tonL change. Why no one says this is beyond my understanding but if we do it as I am saying you must hear it too. It's not a bad thing in fact it's one of the reasons the Hugo sounds so good. By doing what I hear it increases the staging and clarity. It does make the Hugo sound a little thinner than the direct stream as well
I won a hugo it is my every day commute device with my iems, and iPhone. I am not crazy and I do not care how many people here say I am wrong do the test as I say and post .
Al


hey Al

 

Hows the AK240 in comparison (SQ)?

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