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post #4201 of 14335
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Originally Posted by FortisFlyer75 View Post
 

Well, I feel lonely in my dark room until I get the Hugo, is there anything that will get rid of my anxiety of not been able to listen to one every day until I have saved all my penny's?! ....I've got two cat's for sale if anyone wants them, still got a few good years in them yet! Or shall I move this to the for sale forum?  

 

 

I'd sell the wife before the cats, my thinking being... none do what you want them to do but at least you'll get rid of any background noise that has the potential to interrupt Hugo listening.

 

>thinks< best I don't call Fortis this week

post #4202 of 14335
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Originally Posted by 7ryder View Post
 

yeah, I'm thinking the same...buy the Hugo and not a new AK, especially since people who have heard both, prefer the Hugo. Also, the original AK120 seems to sound better to some experienced Head-fiers than all of the new models, except the AK240 (if you check in on that thread).  So, since I own an AK120, I seem to be set if I head down the Hugo path.

 

On the other hand, I have a new Ayre QB-9 DSD for my desktop, not sure that I want to upgrade just yet...wifey is understanding, but...

Divorce is another solution to allowing one to buy anything without feedback, electronic or otherwise.


Edited by AGB100 - 6/8/14 at 12:24pm
post #4203 of 14335
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

I have had several sabre dacs I owned or had afor a few weeks to listen too. I have never had a sabre dac I liked . Just various amounts of dislike. .
Even the mytek in PCM is nails to the head . Now in dsd it is a very nice dac though. I own several FGPA dacs. The arie qb9 , Hugo and the direct stream. The FGPA dacs all have a more natural sound that the sabre s do not have .
Al


Touche Al. I never liked the sound of SABRE dacs either. Some were soft, others hard, but all of them were parts of a complete design, so it is hard to attribute any sound to the SABRE. It measures well, but perhaps other chips sound better.


Edited by AGB100 - 6/8/14 at 12:25pm
post #4204 of 14335

Can someone please just compare the DAC side of the HUGO and if it compares to the other $2,500 DACS. I could care less for the portability and the headphone amp. Looking to purchase just for stereo set-up. Thanks.

 

Keep in mind just for the DAC side of things, with $2,500, currently you can get a used AMR-777 and Lampizator Level 4's as well as PWD MK II for $700.00 less etc..


Edited by SearchOfSub - 6/8/14 at 12:31pm
post #4205 of 14335
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Originally Posted by AGB100 View Post
 

Divorce is another solution to allowing one to buy anything without feedback, electronic or otherwise.

yeah, but speaking from personal experience, that's a hell of a lot more expensive!  

post #4206 of 14335
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

I have had several sabre dacs I owned or had afor a few weeks to listen too. I have never had a sabre dac I liked . Just various amounts of dislike. .
Even the mytek in PCM is nails to the head . Now in dsd it is a very nice dac though. I own several FGPA dacs. The arie qb9 , Hugo and the direct stream. The FGPA dacs all have a more natural sound that the sabre s do not have .
Al

Isn't the QB-9 DSB based on an ES9016S chip?

post #4207 of 14335
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post
 

Isn't the QB-9 DSB based on an ES9016S chip?

The new one is based upon that chip, but it has FPGA implementation as well. 

post #4208 of 14335
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

I really do stink at explaining its a good thing I do not work intern supoort on the phones. .
I have a cpu running win7 ultimate. It has j river on it. Im use j remote to control,it from my iPad. I also have a win8.1 surface pro also has jriver. . I can use the j remote of it. My question is if there is no internet , and there fire no network will,it still find the i pad App .
Al

I am not sure.. but if you create a hotspot on the iPhone and connect your Surface Pro to the iPhone, they both should be on the same network and if so, you should be able to use the iPhone to control j river on the Surface Pro with the iPhone. If that doesn't work you would need a portable router like the Huawei (some number) that I have lying around here.. it has about eight hours of battery life and it generates a local network for both the Surface Pro and the iPhone, so it should definetly work.. I haven't tried it though..
post #4209 of 14335
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Originally Posted by 7ryder View Post
 

yeah, but speaking from personal experience, that's a hell of a lot more expensive!  

 

Money is not an issue in this hobby.

post #4210 of 14335
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Originally Posted by 7ryder View Post
 

yeah, but speaking from personal experience, that's a hell of a lot more expensive!  

 

view it as a hi-fi upgrade, it'll make sense then.

post #4211 of 14335

Guys, seriously. What I hear with the HUGO is significantly more dimensionality and separation of the layers of sonic images. Each stands out in relief within its own space. One can hear into the recording venue so much more, ie, Bill Sommers' IROKO, Rompe Saraguey & Huelgas Ensemble's Le Madrigal Italien. That is what makes the Hugo remarkable, keeping us transfixed to the sound. For example, I'm listening now to FEIST's Brandy Alexander, not a reference recording, but then who cares? That's the point!

 

Ditto for James Taylor LIVE: Traffic Jam. There are other advantages. Details in the lower frequencies that underpin almost everything become untangled and revealed. People talk about skin on a drum...they haven't heard how bongos are tuned until they listen to the Hugo. It's the common CDs that come alive. Common CDs we may not listen to twice, all of a sudden become newsworthy. We might spend some time discussing what is so revolutionary, not evolutionary here, especially for newbies who need to know.


Edited by AGB100 - 6/8/14 at 1:05pm
post #4212 of 14335
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Originally Posted by AGB100 View Post
 

Guys, seriously. What I hear with the HUGO is significantly more dimensionality and separation of the layers of sonic images. Each stands out in relief within its own space. One can hear into the recording venue so much more, ie, Bill Sommers' IROKO, Rompe Saraguey & Huelgas Ensemble's Le Madrigal Italien. That is what makes the Hugo remarkable, keeping us transfixed to the sound. For example, I'm listening now to FEIST's Brandy Alexander, not a reference recording, but then who cares? That's the point!

 

Ditto for James Taylor LIVE: Traffic Jam. There are other advantages. Details in the lower frequencies that underpin almost everything become untangled and revealed. People talk about skin on a drum...they haven't heard how bongos are tuned until they listen to the Hugo. It's the common CDs that come alive. Common CDs we may not listen to twice, all of a sudden become newsworthy. We might spend some time discussing what is so revolutionary, not evolutionary here, especially for newbies who need to know.

 

 

When I hear things like this about soundstage, this raises another question. HUGO is currently running on battery, if you apply the battery concept, its like getting a good external powercord from furutech, shunyata HC etc and hooking it up to your components.

 

From my personal experience, powercords do make a lot of difference as to soundstage and resolution overall. So the question really is, are you comparing the HUGO to other DACS using stock powercord? I certainly hope not.

post #4213 of 14335
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Originally Posted by SearchOfSub View Post
 

 

 

When I hear things like this about soundstage, this raises another question. HUGO is currently running on battery, if you apply the battery concept, its like getting a good external powercord from furutech, shunyata HC etc and hooking it up to your components.

 

From my personal experience, powercords do make a lot of difference as to soundstage and resolution overall. So the question really is, are you comparing the HUGO to other DACS using stock powercord? I certainly hope not.


Of course not. I am not comparing a power cord's effects. They are irrelevant here. And no power cord is going to make a lesser component live up to these standards. Moreover, consider this: if a power cord makes the kind of improvement that you cite, perhaps the power supply rejection of components in your system are not up to par. You have a hundred miles of electrical wire from the power station to your wall outlet and a ft of power cord will make your system great - and without it you lose  a huge amount of resolution. Think about it.

 

I do hear great differences between interconnects and there are scientific explanations why that is so. There is no mystery in audio design. What we have are talented designers and some not as talented.


Edited by AGB100 - 6/8/14 at 2:16pm
post #4214 of 14335

IC's, speaker cables, and powercords all make a difference in sound from my experience. Mostly, the speaker cables and IC's play a role in clearing things up and tightening things a bit giving it a better clarity and and bit of more dynamics to your sound. And what a good powercord brings mainly is the overall soundstage depth to the table..

 

When I first read rewviews of the HUGO having great soundstage and read about the battery power, I perfectly understood it was the battery power that was giving it a good difference to soundstage compared to other dacs and their stock powercord.

 

It's somewhat confusing with all these glorious reviews from here and from professional reviewers saying its an excellent unit for the price beating 4x the cost of dacs out there. But there are those who uses and spend the extra money on powercords and IC's and cables in general, who also know that swapping stock powercords for a good one can also take ANY component in the chain to another level as far as soundstage and overall resolution goes.

 

It would be great if someone who is running a good DAC with a good powercord can comment on the DAC side of things and compare the two?

 

In general ,the battery power concept of the HUGO (when used at home) is eliminating all your power issues at your home. The same things are made by companies like Shunyata for budget audiophiles to do the same thing.

 

So the question is, HUGO being $2,500 - $2,600 in the U.S brand new (no used ones as of yet) has anyone compared it to good known dacs like the AMR 777 or the Lampizator level 4 which can be had for about the same price used? (using a good Powercord), I would assume it would be about $300.00 give or take (lets just say you will get a Shunyata HC powercord)

 

 

This question is strictly for 2 channel stereo enthuasists only who plan to use the HUGO as part of a stereo set-up.


Edited by SearchOfSub - 6/8/14 at 2:09pm
post #4215 of 14335
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Originally Posted by nOtEcH View Post

I am not sure.. but if you create a hotspot on the iPhone and connect your Surface Pro to the iPhone, they both should be on the same network and if so, you should be able to use the iPhone to control j river on the Surface Pro with the iPhone. If that doesn't work you would need a portable router like the Huawei (some number) that I have lying around here.. it has about eight hours of battery life and it generates a local network for both the Surface Pro and the iPhone, so it should definetly work.. I haven't tried it though..

A big thanks I did not think of that. See Someone understood me hahahah aha. Now I just need to install the onkyo HF and make it work on the iPhone 5. It's been so long I do not remeber how to use iTunes. Thu should kick my a. SS. A while.
Thanks
Al
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