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post #3976 of 14216
Not sure who asked about the ap1/pp. It does not help it looses some detail. It's luster so to speak. As it helps with the tone a bit it looses it's clarity a bit . The same thing happens with the dorect stream . Sorry but for me it's just straight USB . At my office witha better CPU an I7 and the PPA stuff it did help but not dramatic but it was there .
Al
post #3977 of 14216
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

Anybody close to Boston with a Hugo?  Can you help a buddy out and let me try it out?  :bigsmile_face:

 

What others ways can I audition a Hugo?  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

check out some dealers with return policy or maybe send you a loaner if you pay shipping

post #3978 of 14216
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

Not sure who asked about the ap1/pp. It does not help it looses some detail. It's luster so to speak. As it helps with the tone a bit it looses it's clarity a bit . The same thing happens with the dorect stream . Sorry but for me it's just straight USB . At my office witha better CPU an I7 and the PPA stuff it did help but not dramatic but it was there .
Al
but then wouldn't it be actually welcome for the HD-800, since you found the stock sound on the bright side?
post #3979 of 14216
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

What others ways can I audition a Hugo?  

 

contact Chord's North American distributor below, they will tell you where your local vendor is, hth.

 

http://www.bluebirdmusic.com/

post #3980 of 14216
It's not that it's bright it's more a little skewd to be a little forward. It's not bad in any way and maybe some would like it. . But for me I would REPAIRE how it sounds say through my hd vd800. As some feel this is bright I do not. But getting back to the sound it looses it's shine . What makes the Hugo,or the direct stream sound analog type. I do not know why but it's not better. But it's not as dark as the offramp. That makes it too dark. But it it is along the same type of sound . It lowers the over all tone and this takes away the shine . I know my wording stinks but it makes the dac sound more like the rest of the dacs that do not have this sound level of quality .
Al
post #3981 of 14216

The HD800 is a little bright. The Hugo isn't. It won't be bright with the Audeze LCD-X. It will be with a good number of IEMs. The Hugo sounds good with DAPs, but significantly better with Macs running Fidelia software with the FHX module, and with a slight EQ for every headphone out there. In other words, as good as the Hugo may sound as a portable device, the front end, before the DAC, is the software of your DAP or computer. iZotope's engine is far superior to the engine that resamples the data for the DAP...orders of magnitude superior.

 

Adding an external amplifier is piggy-backing one amp on top of the other. The Hugo's amp would now be in series with another amp. The second amp now serves as an equalizer, equalizing which way? Any way. And coloring the neutral Hugo's sound.

 

Not recommended.

 

Cheers.


Edited by AGB100 - 6/5/14 at 8:46pm
post #3982 of 14216
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Originally Posted by verber View Post

right desktop amp would improve sound quality, but would not be cheap.  Headamp GS-X mk2 was an improvement over strait from the Hugo.  I didn't try other amps between the Hugo and the HD800, but based on on past experience I believe the EC Super7, EC Balancing Act, and Auralic Taurus MkII would also provide a step up in SQ.  

--Mark

I concur that the EC BA will further improve the sound quality when paired with Hugo (as DAC) and HD800 (with Cardas Clear balance upgrade cable). Although HD800 sounds fantastic straight out of Hugo's 6.3, there's no deny that a capable headphone amp can let out the potential of headphones with large voltage swings. The HD800 just sounds with more authority while retaining the incredible clarity brought by Hugo and HD800 itself. But it's very true that a capable headphone amp is never cheap...

Nevertheless, I am extremely satisfied with the result of the HD800 and Hugo combo while I am on business travel! This could be the highest quality portable (barely...) solution one can get so far.
Edited by lieberstanley - 6/5/14 at 11:15pm
post #3983 of 14216
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Originally Posted by AGB100 View Post
 

The HD800 is a little bright. The Hugo isn't. It won't be bright with the Audeze LCD-X. It will be with a good number of IEMs. The Hugo sounds good with DAPs, but significantly better with Macs running Fidelia software with the FHX module, and with a slight EQ for every headphone out there. In other words, as good as the Hugo may sound as a portable device, the front end, before the DAC, is the software of your DAP or computer. iZotope's engine is far superior to the engine that resamples the data for the DAP...orders of magnitude superior.

 

Adding an external amplifier is piggy-backing one amp on top of the other. The Hugo's amp would now be in series with another amp. The second amp now serves as an equalizer, equalizing which way? Any way. And coloring the neutral Hugo's sound.

 

Not recommended.

 

Cheers.

 

You might like to check with Chord as to why they went to the trouble of including RCA outputs - variable and fixed - in an already crowded case design. They realised that this was more - much more - than your everyday 'DAC/headamp' and acted accordingly. I'm just as happy to leave mine hooked up to my Taurus as the magazine editors who have connected the Hugo to considerably more expensive speaker amps and raved about the results. 

post #3984 of 14216


This is apic of the USA 120 volt Hugo charger. Let's find a source for this as one at the office and one at home kinda thing.
Does anybody know if we can order one from chord ? Or does it need to be outsourced

Also does anybody know if VIANNEY from redwine has any improvements or real time bypassing the internal amp when used as a line out plans for the future. Looking set the device there is plenty of room inside and it it looks like plenty of oeople owning it.
Al
Edited by ALRAINBOW - 6/6/14 at 3:34am
post #3985 of 14216
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post



This is apic of the USA 120 volt Hugo charger. Let's find a source for this as one at the office and one at home kinda thing.
Does anybody know if we can order one from chord ? Or does it need to be outsourced

Also does anybody know if VIANNEY from redwine has any improvements or real time bypassing the internal amp when used as a line out plans for the future. Looking set the device there is plenty of room inside and it it looks like plenty of oeople owning it.
Al

I don't think you can get a cleaner line out of the Hugo.

Only theoretical improvement I can think of is if you could bypass the batteries (in stationary mode) and connect an high end power supply that is even cleaner than the batteries. Except from that I don't think there is much to do.

post #3986 of 14216

Dont forget HUGO does not have an amp section, what you hear is its direct lineout from the digital signal data processing unit. 


Edited by audionewbi - 6/6/14 at 4:13am
post #3987 of 14216
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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post
 

Dont forget HUGO does not have an amp section, what you hear is its direct lineout from the signal digital data processing unit. 

I didn't say it, but that was what I was thinking about. :)

post #3988 of 14216


no op amp inside ? this is why I possed the question. as its a digitally controlled system . choosing the line output mode I think bypasses nothing and sets the volume only at a fixed voltage. as red wine has found ways to bypass the internal amps of the ak line . the question is valid.

al

post #3989 of 14216

Well there is really nothing there to bypass, the part that supposedly created a problem is not there to bypass. There has been mods for the PSU which "improved" the "thin" sound of HUGO. There is also another member who replaced the wiring for the battery which he/she claims to improve the sound further but as far as improving the amp section I don't think it is possible to do so unless you buy a dedicated amp that is able to use those amazing detail of HUGO RCA and amplify it without altering it. 

 

So far even the highly praised wagnus epsilon S did not convince me much compared to what HUGO is already capable of. I dont know if I am ready to spend another 3K on an amp in order to get a marginal improvement on what HUGO already offers.

 

Having sad that I am interested to see if RWA can improve upon an already perfect sounding device. 


Edited by audionewbi - 6/6/14 at 5:18am
post #3990 of 14216
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post
 


no op amp inside ? this is why I possed the question. as its a digitally controlled system . choosing the line output mode I think bypasses nothing and sets the volume only at a fixed voltage. as red wine has found ways to bypass the internal amps of the ak line . the question is valid.

al

 

There is a opamp.

Here is a posting from Rob regarding the amp stage in Hugo (and more):

http://www.head-fi.org/t/702787/chord-hugo/1830#post_10459450

 

(in reality you are listening to the DAC "directly")

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