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Originally Posted by Crashem View Post

Wow. That means you didn't even send through headphone amplification although with Hugo's design, I'm not sure how big a difference that means. Basically you are saying line level or close to it could drive the speakers. Have you tried just plugging in the linn directly to speakers as well as it should be similar given that both sending around line level.

I'm not sure how comfortable I am trying this on mine, but maybe I will. I still don't see how it would work even close to well or loud. Those speakers are 50w at 8ohms minimum recommended. Don't see how the 1w at 8ohms could be enough as speakers would try to draw a ton more which would cause clipping etc even if you could hear anything beyond a whisper. And the tiny battery would drain fast assuming it could pull out what it wanted.

Hew did you attach speaker plugs into rca jack? Did you rewire speak cables or use some adapter. Could you link the adapter or give us picture of rewire. Might try if just using adapter.

Crashem with you talking watts maybe you can clear...this up for me,the higher the resistance the harder it is to drive headphones,maybe I'm wrong here but aren't speakers with less resistance say from 8 ohms to 4 ohms puts more strain on a power amp yet it's less resistance,then you have power as in watts,now Rob watts says the Hugo has a powerful amp section that can drive most if not all headphones but only has 1w,not sure with headphones but with speakers for example 86 db spl is harder to drive than 90 db spl but I thought that was ohms as in the resistance,I just don't get it at all,I know you Go by the rms for accurate power to match amp and speakers but I don't think it's that easy
Edited by Hifi Nutter - 4/29/14 at 5:51am
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I have pre ordered a chord Hugo as well, unheard.

As i want to use it for my desktop rig along with my active desktop speakers, i would like to ask about the quality of the preamp. is it good enough to skip a preamp or should i maybe take a buffer/pre of the likes of the ifi itubes or similar?

one more option would be to use an external desktop Amp, which has also a pre out.

Headphones used are Th-900.

Thank you for the efforts.

Ron 

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I use one directly into small active loudspeakers, and another one feeding my power amp in my main system. There is no point in using a pre-amp, unless you want to use analogue sources. You will get much better transparency and musicality by avoiding pre-amps of any nature. Have fun with your Hugo!

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Originally Posted by luxsound View Post
 

I have pre ordered a chord Hugo as well, unheard.

As i want to use it for my desktop rig along with my active desktop speakers, i would like to ask about the quality of the preamp. is it good enough to skip a preamp or should i maybe take a buffer/pre of the likes of the ifi itubes or similar?

one more option would be to use an external desktop Amp, which has also a pre out.

Headphones used are Th-900.

Thank you for the efforts.

Ron 

post #2554 of 14324

Thank you Rob for the prompt reply.

sounds promising.

looking very much forward to it.

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Any thoughts on placement with the Hugo,might sound nuts as it's a portable device but I can't seem to hear any difference whether it's on a audiophile base platform or on my garden table
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I do notice SQ differences when I place the Hugo on Nordost Sort Kones or Shunmook footers with LAu Abyss and ALO SS/HD800. However, Hugo with stock rubber feet on different platforms, the differences are indeed not very audible. 

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When using footers is the difference great or small & what is your over all preference? 

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Originally Posted by holeout View Post

I do notice SQ differences when I place the Hugo on Nordost Sort Kones or Shunmook footers with LAu Abyss and ALO SS/HD800. However, Hugo with stock rubber feet on different platforms, the differences are indeed not very audible. 
Nice one mate thanks
post #2559 of 14324

it isolates well in your pocket I've heard... this may or may not be a rumour. :veryevil:

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Originally Posted by Hifi Nutter View Post

Any thoughts on placement with the Hugo,might sound nuts as it's a portable device but I can't seem to hear any difference whether it's on a audiophile base platform or on my garden table

It sounds it's best, warm in the sun, with a lovely cool cocktail, by the beach, with sand in your toes, and in the company of a couple of gorgeous and sophisticated women who naturally love music and Hi-Fi...

 

Ooops here comes the missus...

 

Seriously, I haven't tested it, I have just done my audio P microphonics test, (listen to noise at -120dB at set the loudspeaker so this normally inaudible noise is a roar and tap the board) and it was very good, not badly microphonic. Tapping the crystal oscillator gave a noise at -115dB. So it won't be sensitive, and won't be a problem with headphones at all, as the music can't get to the oscillator. I have not noticed pulse array DAC's to be particularly sensitive to vibrations or location in the past. 

post #2561 of 14324
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Originally Posted by Rob Watts View Post
 

It sounds it's best, warm in the sun, with a lovely cool cocktail, by the beach, with sand in your toes, and in the company of a couple of gorgeous and sophisticated women who naturally love music and Hi-Fi...

 

 

there you have the answer... :tongue_smile:

post #2562 of 14324
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Originally Posted by Rob Watts View Post
 

I use one directly into small active loudspeakers, and another one feeding my power amp in my main system. There is no point in using a pre-amp, unless you want to use analogue sources. You will get much better transparency and musicality by avoiding pre-amps of any nature. Have fun with your Hugo!

Absolutely, no reason to use a preamp, as the Hugo is doing that. Almost like the wire with gain. :^) Not quite a passive preamp stage and in ways, I would think better, more dynamics and a better output impedance normally. It would be so hard for me to get rid of those beautiful glowing 1931 mesh plate Sylvania 27 tube and fine rosewood. Well, could turn it on anyway. lol 

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Hi Rob Watts,
Im sure when I read your interview when designing the chord Hugo you were working late into the night over Christmas,do you have all the gear to work from home when your doing modifications,thought building the circuits need special machines at the factory as in fitting and soldering the parts
post #2564 of 14324
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Originally Posted by Rob Watts View Post

It sounds it's best, warm in the sun, with a lovely cool cocktail, by the beach, with sand in your toes, and in the company of a couple of gorgeous and sophisticated women who naturally love music and Hi-Fi...

Ooops here comes the missus...

Seriously, I haven't tested it, I have just done my audio P microphonics test, (listen to noise at -120dB at set the loudspeaker so this normally inaudible noise is a roar and tap the board) and it was very good, not badly microphonic. Tapping the crystal oscillator gave a noise at -115dB. So it won't be sensitive, and won't be a problem with headphones at all, as the music can't get to the oscillator. I have not noticed pulse array DAC's to be particularly sensitive to vibrations or location in the past. 
Ha ha nice one,I'll go book a holiday
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IMO, the SQ differences with footers are subtle but definitely audible - differences in separation, definition, weight, imaging/stage and minor tonal shifts. I don't have any preference as I view these as passive eq. tools and will depend on equipment synergy. In general, I find the Sort Kones improves on transparency, definition and extension (more analytic) whereas Shunmook on musicality, weight and definition (warmth and analog). Hifi/headfi is a crazy game once you are bitten....

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