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post #2116 of 7766

I think Hifi Nutter is just being consistent with his name! :wink_face:

 

Dude don't even worry about it. Indeed we have all been there. Just don't make it a regular occurrence ;)

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post #2117 of 7766
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Originally Posted by Ross View Post

I've just been comparing three portable sources with my Hugo:
  • iphone through USB streaming FLAC files from my server using JRMC
  • 160GB ipod classic playing ALAC files converted to coax SPDIF through the CLAS
  • optical out from the AK120 playing FLAC files.

This was using the HD800/Blue Dragon directly from  the Hugo headphone output.

Surprisingly, the iphone through USB sounded the best, followed by the AK120 optical output, then the CLAS coax digital ouput. The iphone/USB sounded sharpest, cleanest and most dynamic. The AK120 was very close behind, perhaps sounding a bit airier but also a tad grainier. The ipod/CLAS sounded grainier still, a shade softer and less resolving. There was not a lot in it - any of these sources sounded great - but the differences, while subtle, were noticeable. 

I also compared the heapdhone output of the AK120 against the Hugo using my JH13pros. The AK120 sounded great, but there was no question that the Hugo was an order of magnitude better. It sounded bigger, deeper, more extended in every direction, more natural, and just easier to listen to. I just love this little device!

Thanks for the comparison, I think a lot people wanted to know this.
post #2118 of 7766
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Originally Posted by Shaka View Post
 

Not sure if the lifespan of the internal battery in the Hugo has already been discussed? I don't remember seeing it whilst reading through all the posts.

So if it hasn't been discussed before, I asked the question and also how easily can it be replaced. This is the answer I received:

 

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  ...battery life will always depend on how the product is used and the number of charging cycles etc. We will guarantee Hugo's batteries for 18 months, but expect to last far longer under normal usage. A competent technician would be able to change the batteries so the unit would not have to come back to us.

 

Here's a question for Rob regarding the replacement of batteries in the future. We're aware that Hugo should be powered by a pair of the following batteries

 

Enix Energies 700001 (MGL2811 or BT03611)

 

http://uk.enix-energies.com/media/pdf/MGL2811_UK.pdf

 

http://uk.enix-energies.com/enix-700001-1s1p-icr-18650-gp-2-2-3-75-v-2-2-ah-li-ion-battery-pack-mgl2811.html

 

http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/48504.pdf

 

http://uk.farnell.com/enix-energies/700001/battery-li-ion-3-75v-2-2ah-pk/dp/1290995

 

However, it might not be all that convenient for we Hugo users in America and Asia to import those batteries from Europe, it's still somewhat tricky to mail them across the globe because of safety reasons. And the costs in Europe might be relatively high as follows

 

18650 (Click to show)

 

Since these Panasonic 18650 batteries should be made in Japan and getting generally positive reviews, would you please kindly let us know if there were any foreseeable issues when we install 18650 batteries with a higher capacity (3.4 Ah versus 2.2 Ah) than the current ones in Hugo?

 

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-NCR18650B-3400mAh-Rechargeable-Batteries/dp/B00DHXY72O

 

http://www.amazon.com/PROTECTED-Panasonic-NCR18650B-Orbtronic-Batteries/dp/B00CAD6AUE

 

http://www.amazon.com/3400mAh-PROTECTED-Orbtronic-Rechargeable-Battery/dp/B00ANX46H2

 

http://www.orbtronic.com/batteries-chargers/panasonic-ncr-18650-2900mah-3.6v-li-ion-rechargeable-two-batteries-with-protect-case

post #2119 of 7766
am so pleased and impressed with Chord (and my dealer and NA Chord distributor). I had the early production model and USB input popped off. Got a new unit lickety split and loving it. With this new unit the cross feed seems to be working differently too (better). All is well in Hugo-ville


I had an early one, as well, that went wrong, I noticed the cross- feed improvement in the replacement too! And the box was slightly nicer smily_headphones1.gif
post #2120 of 7766
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Originally Posted by bmichels View Post
 

 

AK240 >toshlink>HUGO ? ;)

 

 

Yeah but make sure you use the Sysconnect optical cable. Just tried it with the fiio short optical cable and it sounds pants. The light comes on for 192/24 but the sound is muffled and no where as clear as the Sysconnect cable.

post #2121 of 7766
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Originally Posted by seeteeyou View Post

Here's a question for Rob regarding the replacement of batteries in the future. We're aware that Hugo should be powered by a pair of the following batteries

Enix Energies 700001 (MGL2811 or BT03611)

http://uk.enix-energies.com/media/pdf/MGL2811_UK.pdf

http://uk.enix-energies.com/enix-700001-1s1p-icr-18650-gp-2-2-3-75-v-2-2-ah-li-ion-battery-pack-mgl2811.html

http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/48504.pdf

http://uk.farnell.com/enix-energies/700001/battery-li-ion-3-75v-2-2ah-pk/dp/1290995

However, it might not be all that convenient for we Hugo users in America and Asia to import those batteries from Europe, it's still somewhat tricky to mail them across the globe because of safety reasons. And the costs in Europe might be relatively high as follows
18650 (Click to show)
Since these Panasonic 18650 batteries should be made in Japan and getting generally positive reviews, would you please kindly let us know if there were any foreseeable issues when we install 18650 batteries with a higher capacity (3.4 Ah versus 2.2 Ah) than the current ones in Hugo?

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-NCR18650B-3400mAh-Rechargeable-Batteries/dp/B00DHXY72O

http://www.amazon.com/PROTECTED-Panasonic-NCR18650B-Orbtronic-Batteries/dp/B00CAD6AUE

http://www.amazon.com/3400mAh-PROTECTED-Orbtronic-Rechargeable-Battery/dp/B00ANX46H2

http://www.orbtronic.com/batteries-chargers/panasonic-ncr-18650-2900mah-3.6v-li-ion-rechargeable-two-batteries-with-protect-case
I'm not totally sure about this but I think that the chord design guys not Rob Watts in this case, may have chosen the correct battery size that allows Hugo's to be shipped by air any larger and shipping would possibly not be allowed. Those guys never take a simplistic view and some of their design choices show that.
post #2122 of 7766
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Originally Posted by Racy View Post

am so pleased and impressed with Chord (and my dealer and NA Chord distributor). I had the early production model and USB input popped off. Got a new unit lickety split and loving it. With this new unit the cross feed seems to be working differently too (better). All is well in Hugo-ville


I had an early one, as well, that went wrong, I noticed the cross- feed improvement in the replacement too! And the box was slightly nicer smily_headphones1.gif

 

What to do for all the first-batch guys? Because I really don't want to go for any time without the Hugo. It goes everywhere with me. To work, next to the computer, heck it's by my side when I fall asleep and wake up. More reliable than a human partner ; )

post #2123 of 7766

For those of you with the sysconcept optical cables, what terminations/connectors did you request?  Did you go for 'without shell'?  The U shaped cables look ideal, except I don't need the U shape. :-) 

post #2124 of 7766
I must have really bad ears because I can't hear any cross-feed effect ! No sound change when playing with the cross-Feed switch ! Am I the only one ? redface.gif
post #2125 of 7766
So I imagine there are a few folks, running the Hugo& AK-240, are you guys finding much success, pairing the two? I've really got the itch to snatch a Hugo up. Just not sure how much it would add to the AK-240. Thanks.
post #2126 of 7766
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Originally Posted by bmichels View Post

I must have really bad ears because I can't hear any cross-feed effect ! No sound change when playing with the cross-Feed switch ! Am I the only one ? redface.gif

no.
post #2127 of 7766
It is super subtle. You have to really listen for it. It takes things in front of you a tiny bit. Before I would only go to first stage of cross feed (red) because second and third narrowed the soundstage too much. Maybe my first unit actually worked the same but the effect was more pronounced
post #2128 of 7766

My Hugo arrived yesterday, and I can only contribute to the multitude of positive reviews before me.

 

I first heard the Hugo at the SoCal meet, and was taken aback at how different and _right_ the Hugo sounded.  This was straight TRS out to my LCD-X.  My memory of that sound, weeks ago, synced with present day impressions.  phew.  and yessss.....  

 

I liken Hugo's sound to the strum of a live acoustic guitar.  When it's played on a quality instrument, there's an attack, hyper clarity, a richness, an unmistakable distinctive realness to the music.  The note lingers in the air for just as long as it needs to, with the reverb you've become accustomed to, and then it's gone.

 
To extend this metaphor, my previous equipment makes the guitar strum sounds as if it's taking place deeper in the instrument.  In comparison to the Hugo, the sound is head-tiltingly, distractingly, off.  Slightly more cloudy, the notes aren't as distinct or rich, the reverb sounds weird and then gets long as it trails off.
 
I'm coming from the Transporter, PS Audio DLIII, and many other mid-fi DACs.  I've spent considerably more on headphone amps throughout the past 8 years.
 
Other details...
 
The sound from the Hugo straight to the LCD-X is pure pleasure.  I recently just heard the Auralic Taurus MkII, Headamp GSX-MkII, and Questyle CMA800R -- all top flight, very powerful, full sounding amps.
 
I currently have the Questyle here at home, and note how this amp slightly alters the Hugo's sound.  It projects more power, yes, but changes Hugo's core liquid sound.  I greatly prefer the LCD-X straight from the Hugo.  
 
So, for right now, I'm very happy.  I've yet to spend significant time with the HD800, which I've heard is powered very well by the Questyle.  But again, I can't have it or any amp tweak Hugo's core sound, so this is an interesting, first time quandary.
 
Bluetooth to Hugo is currently rubbish using my LG G2, iTouch 7G, iPad 3, and Dell Venue Pro 8.  Static, buzzing -- I need to find an AptX source.
 
Otherwise, my primary usage models are:
 
- iTouch / iPad camera connector USB to Hugo
- Dell Win8 Tablet JRiver18 OTG to Hugo HD input
- Desktop Toslink JRiver to Hugo
 
All sound stellar.
 
Lastly, I own the Centrance M8, and have been very happy with it, playing from iTouch 7G > Lightning USB > M8 > dual 3-pin XLR balanced UERM.  Hugo is considerably better, there's just more realism and less congestion / cloud to the music.  

Edited by deadie - 4/19/14 at 4:27pm
post #2129 of 7766

I am interested to see how CalyxM performs against HUGO.

post #2130 of 7766
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Originally Posted by deadie View Post

My Hugo arrived yesterday, and I can only contribute to the multitude of positive reviews before me.

 

I first heard the Hugo at the SoCal meet, and was taken aback at how different and _right_ the Hugo sounded.  This was straight TRS out to my LCD-X.  My memory of that sound, weeks ago, synced with present day impressions.  phew.  and yessss.....  

 

I liken Hugo's sound to the strum of a live acoustic guitar.  When it's played on a quality instrument, there's an attack, hyper clarity, a richness, an unmistakable distinctive realness to the music.  The note lingers in the air for just as long as it needs to, with the reverb you've become accustomed to, and then it's gone.

 
To extend this metaphor, my previous equipment makes the guitar strum sounds as if it's taking place deeper in the instrument.  In comparison to the Hugo, the sound is head-tiltingly, distractingly, off.  Slightly more cloudy, the notes aren't as distinct or rich, the reverb sounds weird and then gets long as it trails off.
 
I'm coming from the Transporter, PS Audio DLIII, and many other mid-fi DACs.  I've spent considerably more on headphone amps throughout the past 8 years.
 
Other details...
 
The sound from the Hugo straight to the LCD-X is pure pleasure.  I recently just heard the Auralic Taurus MkII, Headamp GSX-MkII, and Questyle CMA800R -- all top flight, very powerful, full sounding amps.
 
I currently have the Questyle here at home, and note how this amp slightly alters the Hugo's sound.  It projects more power, yes, but changes Hugo's core liquid sound.  I greatly prefer the LCD-X straight from the Hugo.  
 
So, for right now, I'm very happy.  I've yet to spend significant time with the HD800, which I've heard is powered very well by the Questyle.  But again, I can't have it or any amp tweak Hugo's core sound, so this is an interesting, first time quandary.
 
Bluetooth to Hugo is currently rubbish using my LG G2, iTouch 7G, iPad 3, and Dell Venue Pro 8.  Static, buzzing -- I need to find an AptX source.
 
Otherwise, my primary usage models are:
 
- iTouch / iPad camera connector USB to Hugo
- Dell Win8 Tablet JRiver18 OTG to Hugo HD input
- Desktop Toslink JRiver to Hugo
 
All sound stellar.
 
Lastly, I own the Centrance M8, and have been very happy with it, playing from iTouch 7G > Lightning USB > M8 > dual 3-pin XLR balanced UERM.  Hugo is considerably better, there's just more realism and less congestion / cloud to the music.  

Great post. I agree something special and liquid about Hugo straight to LCD-X
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