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post #31 of 46
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Originally Posted by JeWorms View Post
My personal ranking: 

 

Treble Smoothness:  HD600/650  >  DT880  >  Q701

Treble clarity:            DT880  >  Q701                             (did not include Senns because its hard to justify with less treble presents)  

Wearing comfort:      DT880  >  HD600/650  >  Q701

Sound stage:            Q701   >  HD600/650  >  DT880

Bass quality:             DT880  >  HD600/650  > Q701

Bass quatity:             HD600/650  > DT880  > Q701

Sound Richness and Musicality(make you forget you are wearing headphones):    HD600/650  > DT880  > Q701

 

I'm in agreement with these comparisons.

post #32 of 46

I don't know about the synergy between the headphones and the amp and dac but the HE-400 was just discounted to $300

post #33 of 46
At the last meeting was able to hear the dt880s and was very impressed,granted it was paired with a wa6, but still that shows scalability. I haven't heard the q701s so can't comment but the 880s sounded fairly neutral, slightly recessed bass( as compared to orthos) and perhaps a very, very slight sibilance in the treble(compared to stats/ortho/hd800)

Overall my complaints were in comparison to much pricier headphones, if I weren't already set I would be considering them. Heck if I weren't about to buy some more pricey amps soon I'd already own a pair myself.
post #34 of 46

I'm not persuaded that ranking the models by category (treble smoothness, &c.) results in an accurate sense of worth. Although rankings are certainly informative, I'm more interested in the whole effect. I agree with most of those characterizations, and one reason my opinions sometimes differ is that HD600 and HD650 aren't so similar: I enjoy HD600's neutrality and I don't enjoy HD650's darkness. One category I clearly disagree about is comfort, which is most dependent on the person. Comfort: DT880, K70x, HD600, HD650.

post #35 of 46
Thread Starter 

Sorry, I haven't paid attention to this thread these past few days.

 

I am now thinking about jumping up to the next tier.

 

I am thinking HD 650 or maybe HD 600. I am buying without testing and the Q701 seem like a big risk. The Beyer's seem fine but I have no real frame of reference to judge how good they will sound to me (I have a PC 360 but nothing else).

 

I also want something that will be hard to disappoint.

 

So what do you guys think? Also, how till these headphone sound with the O2+ODAC?

 

Edit: I am think that instead of buying in a month, I save up for another month and get the HD 650's or HD 600's.


Edited by lumzi23 - 1/30/14 at 11:45pm
post #36 of 46
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Originally Posted by lumzi23 View Post
 

Sorry, I haven't paid attention to this thread these past few days.

 

I am now thinking about jumping up to the next tier.

 

I am thinking HD 650 or maybe HD 600. I am buying without testing and the Q701 seem like a big risk. The Beyer's seem fine but I have no real frame of reference to judge how good they will sound to me (I have a PC 360 but nothing else).

 

I also want something that will be hard to disappoint.

 

So what do you guys think? Also, how till these headphone sound with the O2+ODAC?

 

Edit: I am think that instead of buying in a month, I save up for another month and get the HD 650's or HD 600's.

 

Sure, HD600 is hard to dislike and I find it easy to enjoy.

 

One thing you should know about O2+ODAC is that you will need to buy the more powerful AC/AC adapter to use with H6x0 because of their higher impedance (otherwise there might be some distortion on high gain at higher volumes).

 

HD600 + O2+ODAC = no worries.


Edited by Claritas - 1/30/14 at 11:58pm
post #37 of 46
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Claritas View Post
 

 

Sure, HD600 is hard to dislike and I find it easy to enjoy.

 

One thing you should know about O2+ODAC is that you will need to buy the more powerful AC/AC adapter to use with H6x0 because of their higher impedance (otherwise there might be some distortion on high gain at higher volumes).

 

HD600 + O2+ODAC = no worries.

What about this adapter from JDS Labs?

 

Also, what are your opinions on the HD650?

 

Edit: I am soon heading out. Will respond when I get the chance.


Edited by lumzi23 - 1/31/14 at 12:18am
post #38 of 46
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Originally Posted by lumzi23 View Post
 

What about this adapter from JDS Labs?

 

Also, what are your opinions on the HD650?

 

Edit: I am soon heading out. Will respond when I get the chance.

 

Ask JDS Labs about it. They are aware of the issue and have always responded to my questions.

 

I respect HD650, but I don't enjoy it. It's a rich sound with more bass than HD600 and sounds darker in general, which together with rolled off treble, imbalances the overall effect. It's an integrated and enjoyable sound world, but I prefer the greater neutrality of HD600. 

post #39 of 46
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Claritas View Post
 

 

Ask JDS Labs about it. They are aware of the issue and have always responded to my questions.

 

I respect HD650, but I don't enjoy it. It's a rich sound with more bass than HD600 and sounds darker in general, which together with rolled off treble, imbalances the overall effect. It's an integrated and enjoyable sound world, but I prefer the greater neutrality of HD600. 

I will ask them.

 

And thanks for the info on the HD 650.

post #40 of 46

I've owned the headphones in question, and my preferences would be (since you have the O2/ODAC):

 

1. HD650 (the newer versions are not as dark as those sold a few years ago - I actually listen to these as much as my HD800!)

2. HD600 (fairly close to the newer HD650, slightly grainy in comparison)

3. HE400 (if not for the treble spike these would be #1)

4. DT880/600 (a bit dry, I thought the soundstage was very wide - almost distracting so sometimes)

5. K701 etc. (sterile - I've tried repeatedly to like this series but just can't)

 

Drew

post #41 of 46
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by drews View Post
 

I've owned the headphones in question, and my preferences would be (since you have the O2/ODAC):

 

1. HD650 (the newer versions are not as dark as those sold a few years ago - I actually listen to these as much as my HD800!)

2. HD600 (fairly close to the newer HD650, slightly grainy in comparison)

3. HE400 (if not for the treble spike these would be #1)

4. DT880/600 (a bit dry, I thought the soundstage was very wide - almost distracting so sometimes)

5. K701 etc. (sterile - I've tried repeatedly to like this series but just can't)

 

Drew

By grainy do you mean that it is not as clear sounding (the HD600 I mean)?


Edited by lumzi23 - 1/31/14 at 8:55am
post #42 of 46
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Originally Posted by drews View Post

I've owned the headphones in question, and my preferences would be (since you have the O2/ODAC):

1. HD650 (the newer versions are not as dark as those sold a few years ago - I actually listen to these as much as my HD800!)
2. HD600 (fairly close to the newer HD650, slightly grainy in comparison)

I've never heard that from anyone else. I understand that you're reporting your experience, but these sorts of rumors surface all the time about other models (and occasionally they would seem to be true, such as HD800). I would want to hear it from large numbers of people before beginning to consider it.
post #43 of 46

I mean that for me the HD650 has a slightly more liquid, smooth sound (the HD600 is very clear sounding, I'm just nitpicking)..

post #44 of 46
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Originally Posted by Claritas View Post


I've never heard that from anyone else. I understand that you're reporting your experience, but these sorts of rumors surface all the time about other models (and occasionally they would seem to be true, such as HD800). I would want to hear it from large numbers of people before beginning to consider it.

 

Other members have mentioned this before and it was obvious to me while comparing my HD650 and HD600 so it might be worth considering (otherwise I would have kept the HD600)...  

post #45 of 46
the difference between HD650 and 600 are minimal compared to other models, you can't go wrong with either model. Technically HD650 is slightly more refined and have better driver matching. (from objective data, not from personal impression)
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